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Offline Tupac

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Alex you must be retarded. Have you even done an lp? A live performance is NOT about who can do the hardest no touch combo. It's not about lowers or sits or uppers. it's out entertaining a crowd.
Marketing myself means what I sell myself for, which means I'll try to get the top dollar I wanna get, not that I feel I am some brand.
Should he be scared of me stealing of his job? No. But there are probably 1,000 other kids out there just like me that don't give a fuck for a high pay cause we don't have bills to pay.
The greatest part is you don't have to be good at no touch combos to do an awesome live performance.
 
Please point out the bullshit I wrote.
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The winner will also get the unique opportunity to meet me! Come on guys, that's a awesome prize!

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A live performance is NOT about who can do the hardest no touch combo.
no shit haha - where did you see me write that lol
what are you blind - oh wait i forgot  :grin:

Should he be scared of me stealing of his job? No. But there are probably 1,000 other kids out there just like me that don't give a fuck for a high pay cause we don't have bills to pay.
exactly - the key word - is "kids" - thats what you are
and you have tried to argue with a 28 year old world champion who has been in this business since day 1
and thats where you are wrong - learn to respect people like him

The greatest part is you don't have to be good at no touch combos to do an awesome live performance.
you said it twice

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If you would read better you would see I proved his point. I didn't dispute him on one point.  :PDT_Armataz_01_37:
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Got paied in KL.

Redbull paied for me and one more to go and have 4 great days in NY.
I didnt need to bring a ball. I asked for the lp to promote myself. I asked for halftime performance. Redbull said no, because of strickt rules with the grass...   

You may do what you like... I just Think you should take a minute and Think about it...
500dollars is nothing in sweden, but in most part of the world: its alot...
This kind of shit will make it impossible for guys like palle and Daniel to stay professional...
Do we want freestyle to just be for kids and students?
$500 dollar to me is a lot. When you're in high school the best job you can get is some shitty minimum wage job that pays like $7.25hr.
Truth be told I would do any show for $500, hell I'd do any show for almost any amount of money cause I still live at home with dad and I don't have any bills to pay.
I'll still market myself in a way to get the most outta any performance, but if companies were smarter they'd already know everything I've stated above and could make cutbacks on what they pay.

At the end of the day I don't care if I put someone else out of a job because I did it for cheaper, I only care that I'm happy with whats in my pocket.

wow this is a terrible attitude, it's people like you that will ruin freestyle and make it worthless. You are in a chain reaction don't forget that, so that if you are doing a job undercutting someone by 100 dollars then next year there will be another kid ready to take your price down by 50 dollars and eventually everyone will be doing shows for free.

Fix up and have some respect for freestylers, the sport, the culture and yourself you fucking mong.

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Got paied in KL.

Redbull paied for me and one more to go and have 4 great days in NY.
I didnt need to bring a ball. I asked for the lp to promote myself. I asked for halftime performance. Redbull said no, because of strickt rules with the grass...  

You may do what you like... I just Think you should take a minute and Think about it...
500dollars is nothing in sweden, but in most part of the world: its alot...
This kind of shit will make it impossible for guys like palle and Daniel to stay professional...
Do we want freestyle to just be for kids and students?
$500 dollar to me is a lot. When you're in high school the best job you can get is some shitty minimum wage job that pays like $7.25hr.
Truth be told I would do any show for $500, hell I'd do any show for almost any amount of money cause I still live at home with dad and I don't have any bills to pay.
I'll still market myself in a way to get the most outta any performance, but if companies were smarter they'd already know everything I've stated above and could make cutbacks on what they pay.

At the end of the day I don't care if I put someone else out of a job because I did it for cheaper, I only care that I'm happy with whats in my pocket.

wow this is a terrible attitude, it's people like you that will ruin freestyle and make it worthless. You are in a chain reaction don't forget that, so that if you are doing a job undercutting someone by 100 dollars then next year there will be another kid ready to take your price down by 50 dollars and eventually everyone will be doing shows for free.

Fix up and have some respect for freestylers, the sport, the culture and yourself you fucking mong.
It's not a terrible attitude it's fucking life. First of freestyle is freestyle and a show is a show. Don't get the 2 confused.
Freestyle= community.
Show = Business.
Ones for money and one is for the love of the sport.
If you look at this from a business financial standpoint I don't give a fuck who you are I just wanna get paid. You can be my best friend but I'll still fight you tooth and nail to get a performance. This isn't kumbyah where we all hold hands and sing together, it's for money. If you have to step over a few people to get you want, then by god do it. No one got successful being nice. - You want proof? Look at almost any successful business person. This isn't about respect it's about getting paid for a job.

Edit: Also, your chain reaction theory is fucking useless.
Would you rather pay azun $500 for a performance or $300 for one from me? Use your brain, an employer isn't only looking at the price, they want quality with it. That's why they'd rather pay $1000 for a performance by someone who is highly experienced than a free show from someone who has medium expierence. And I don't see, or think I will ever see, a medium experience freestyler selling themselves for nothing.
Someone with small experience usually doesn't get shows, and does street performances until they get a break.


« Last Edit: Nov 29, 2011, 04:51: AM by Tupac »
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Mirran: Lp and competition is very different.
Redbull pays nothing, but winning it is worth alot...
I went to KL to do much better then i did... Andrew got 5000£ out of it cause he won...

In 2 weeks i will do a show for free. Cause the promotion i Get out of it is worth alot! :)

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I go to prague for free because i belive lucaso does something great for the sport...



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Got paied in KL.

Redbull paied for me and one more to go and have 4 great days in NY.
I didnt need to bring a ball. I asked for the lp to promote myself. I asked for halftime performance. Redbull said no, because of strickt rules with the grass...   

You may do what you like... I just Think you should take a minute and Think about it...
500dollars is nothing in sweden, but in most part of the world: its alot...
This kind of shit will make it impossible for guys like palle and Daniel to stay professional...
Do we want freestyle to just be for kids and students?
$500 dollar to me is a lot. When you're in high school the best job you can get is some shitty minimum wage job that pays like $7.25hr.
Truth be told I would do any show for $500, hell I'd do any show for almost any amount of money cause I still live at home with dad and I don't have any bills to pay.
I'll still market myself in a way to get the most outta any performance, but if companies were smarter they'd already know everything I've stated above and could make cutbacks on what they pay.

At the end of the day I don't care if I put someone else out of a job because I did it for cheaper, I only care that I'm happy with whats in my pocket.

Shows that you need to stay there for a wile longer :)

and with an atitude like that, you shouldnt call yourself "Tupac"...

and yes they are for sure smarter then you... since you actully belive they know the marked...

If they say that, and you agree to go lowprice... then they know you arent of such a high quality... cause then you would just tell them to fuck off ;)


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Got paied in KL.

Redbull paied for me and one more to go and have 4 great days in NY.
I didnt need to bring a ball. I asked for the lp to promote myself. I asked for halftime performance. Redbull said no, because of strickt rules with the grass...  

You may do what you like... I just Think you should take a minute and Think about it...
500dollars is nothing in sweden, but in most part of the world: its alot...
This kind of shit will make it impossible for guys like palle and Daniel to stay professional...
Do we want freestyle to just be for kids and students?
$500 dollar to me is a lot. When you're in high school the best job you can get is some shitty minimum wage job that pays like $7.25hr.
Truth be told I would do any show for $500, hell I'd do any show for almost any amount of money cause I still live at home with dad and I don't have any bills to pay.
I'll still market myself in a way to get the most outta any performance, but if companies were smarter they'd already know everything I've stated above and could make cutbacks on what they pay.

At the end of the day I don't care if I put someone else out of a job because I did it for cheaper, I only care that I'm happy with whats in my pocket.

wow this is a terrible attitude, it's people like you that will ruin freestyle and make it worthless. You are in a chain reaction don't forget that, so that if you are doing a job undercutting someone by 100 dollars then next year there will be another kid ready to take your price down by 50 dollars and eventually everyone will be doing shows for free.

Fix up and have some respect for freestylers, the sport, the culture and yourself you fucking mong.


This post is soooo true!

Tupac, I've got a question. What would you do: play 5 lps for 200$ each or 1 for 1000$?
I know it's hard to get an lp for such amount of money but,as you said, life sucks. And please, tell me- why are you thinking that freestyle market should be "cheaper"(It's my assuption based on your posts)?

I've heard of many situations where someone offered his lps and then, somebody else was asked to do that performance(because the 1st person couldn't go etc.) and was forced to do it for small price, whereas the company wanted to spend much more money for this. It's throwing money away, really. I don't like that attitude. You get a chance to live from freestyle and you waste it because you want to "steal" someone's performance.
Sorry for that sentence but - that's why I think intermediate freestylers should not be involved in freestyle market.

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Got paied in KL.

Redbull paied for me and one more to go and have 4 great days in NY.
I didnt need to bring a ball. I asked for the lp to promote myself. I asked for halftime performance. Redbull said no, because of strickt rules with the grass...   

You may do what you like... I just Think you should take a minute and Think about it...
500dollars is nothing in sweden, but in most part of the world: its alot...
This kind of shit will make it impossible for guys like palle and Daniel to stay professional...
Do we want freestyle to just be for kids and students?
$500 dollar to me is a lot. When you're in high school the best job you can get is some shitty minimum wage job that pays like $7.25hr.
Truth be told I would do any show for $500, hell I'd do any show for almost any amount of money cause I still live at home with dad and I don't have any bills to pay.
I'll still market myself in a way to get the most outta any performance, but if companies were smarter they'd already know everything I've stated above and could make cutbacks on what they pay.

At the end of the day I don't care if I put someone else out of a job because I did it for cheaper, I only care that I'm happy with whats in my pocket.

wow this is a terrible attitude, it's people like you that will ruin freestyle and make it worthless. You are in a chain reaction don't forget that, so that if you are doing a job undercutting someone by 100 dollars then next year there will be another kid ready to take your price down by 50 dollars and eventually everyone will be doing shows for free.

Fix up and have some respect for freestylers, the sport, the culture and yourself you fucking mong.
It's not a terrible attitude it's fucking life. First of freestyle is freestyle and a show is a show. Don't get the 2 confused.
Freestyle= community.
Show = Business.
Ones for money and one is for the love of the sport.
If you look at this from a business financial standpoint I don't give a fuck who you are I just wanna get paid. You can be my best friend but I'll still fight you tooth and nail to get a performance. This isn't kumbyah where we all hold hands and sing together, it's for money. If you have to step over a few people to get you want, then by god do it. No one got successful being nice. - You want proof? Look at almost any successful business person. This isn't about respect it's about getting paid for a job.

Edit: Also, your chain reaction theory is fucking useless.
Would you rather pay azun $500 for a performance or $300 for one from me? Use your brain, an employer isn't only looking at the price, they want quality with it. That's why they'd rather pay $1000 for a performance by someone who is highly experienced than a free show from someone who has medium expierence. And I don't see, or think I will ever see, a medium experience freestyler selling themselves for nothing.
Someone with small experience usually doesn't get shows, and does street performances until they get a break.





There wasn't much of your stupidity recently, i thought you got mature but now you strike again.

The thing is you don't have to make it cheaper, because there are not millions of freestylers. Especially you, you live in the US where the people are impressed very easily (when i was in the US, they were so impressed by atw htw) and where it's hard to get a good freestyler, and to fly in somebody from Europe it costs like $500.

you should read a book about game theory, so that you understand more about cooperation

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and wasn't it you who said that when turning 16, you would get the Ford Mustang which was in your video?
so don't act like a ghetto kid who needs every dime...