religion

[Tito]

So basically Tito your saying  that a prayer is like a good stretch in the morning and at night?

Not at all!
but i was just naming some of its

physical benefits (since you don't believe in it, i'll spare you the spiritual benefits)

Forgive me for not rushing to vonert to islam on that as a basis , and i think its very very wrong to describe sex before marraige as a form of prostitution as im assuming you mean prostitution in the sense of

the act or practice of engaging in sexual intercourse for money

.  In which case i think your making a large generalisation that everybody is only having sex for money and no other possible reason.  Yes the rate of STD'S would fall if nobody had sex before mariage but equally the rate of STD'S would fall if everybody used a condom or got themselves checked out at clinics.

Not for money but in the sense of fun and that damages many lives.
Kinda like alcohol it's extremely damaging and Islam forbid because of that. Alot of bad things come from sex before marriage is thus for that reason forbidden.

can you honestly tell me one benefit of sex before marriage beside 'pleasure'

Science would blatantly kick god arse in a fight, we have lasers!

When science creates a living being from absolutely nothing.
Let me be the first to know

[Mikael]

When science creates a living being from absolutely nothing.
Let me be the first to know


You actually believe that?  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[VG]

You actually believe that?

  If your referring to the belief that something was created from nothing i wouldn't completely dismiss it because, although i have no intention of being Religious nor do i see many benefits in it, the idea that there was at some point completely nothing is just as acceptable as the idea that there has always been something.

On regards as to creating something from completely nothing, it depends what you mean by nothing if you mean nothing as in just its constituent elements then that itself is nearly possible, what is further away however is watching an organism assemble itself in the sense of no outside interference although progress is being made along this path.

To pick up on another couple of points you raised Tito you mentioned Women covering themselves up helped stop rate, lame me if you think I'm being a bit picky but don't you think that this shifts the onus of blame for the rape onto the woman as if its their fault for tempting the man to rape them therefore they must cover themselves up?  Can we not just try and get men to stop raping and sexually abusing them.

In regards to sex before marriage you say it is only used for pleasure and can only eventually bring pain, whilst this may be true in some cases consider a couple who have sex and then get married surely they receive pleasure earlier and suffer no negative effects from this.  Or it could be argued that there is nothing wrong with the idea of having sex only for pleasure even if it does cause either party emotional pain as this would stop them from marrying or having relations with another person of the same mold, and this is in the case that either party gets hurt but if they don't what is the problem with doing something no-hazardous if all precautions are taken for pleasure.

[G-Kid]

TBH

I have no problem with religion or anything of the sort.

I dont know if theres a god or not, but if there is one, I would not let him judge me, Because at the end of the day, hes letting thousands of people starv every day, Letting people being born with such upsetting things, such as downs, edwards syndrome, loss of limbs, and the worst of them all, Dyslexia  :saywhat:  :lol:

So there you have it, i dont wanna worship no person who puts people through such suffering, he doesnt deserve my prayers.

[Wrighty]

No problem with religion, but i've your going to put your faith in someone, put it in yourself.

[a;sdlfkjas;df]

Not for money but in the sense of fun and that damages many lives.

sure, but many things can damage lives, including marriage

Kinda like alcohol it's extremely damaging

if used responsibly, quite the contrary is true, much like pre-marital sex.

can you honestly tell me one benefit of sex before marriage beside 'pleasure'

i'll link you to ten:

http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/10-surprising-health-benefits-of-sex

When science creates a living being from absolutely nothing.
Let me be the first to know

 

[TW89]

I think being religious is pretty pointless.

i'll link you to ten:

http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/10-surprising-health-benefits-of-sex

Lmao
I'm sure loadsa ppl do it to burn calories...

[a;sdlfkjas;df]

I think being religious is pretty pointless.

i'll link you to ten:

http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/10-surprising-health-benefits-of-sex

Lmao
I'm sure loadsa ppl do it to burn calories...

it's on most calorie counters fwiw

[Mikael]

Hehe I could argue all day on the topic of Religion.

But I have my doubts myself on many things, I think its best to have a faith but be open to your own views and dont really mind what people will think of you if you support a certain religion.

I mean, I still like Abbas.........

*spoken in Irish accent*

So you not catlick?    (catholic)

FYI i dont pronounce that word the way you think, I say it the way it is spelt.
At least I dont say it in an English accent - Caffolik.

Yeh, Mark speaks perfect english, He can say anything, err.. Eg. Chippy :lol:

Yo, lads, stop the fighting. I say we all get in the back of my truck and smoke my pipe or even better: Let's go ride ma cows!!  :thumbsup:

[chevestiano]

i have this question, and no one has an answer for me yet.
It is supposed to be that god is pefect, and because of this, ihe doesn't need anything, he's all happy, he's all joy, he's all handsome.... etc.
So, the question is: Why would god create us? He doesn't need us...??

[Tito]

You actually believe that?

  If your referring to the belief that something was created from nothing i wouldn't completely dismiss it because, although i have no intention of being Religious nor do i see many benefits in it, the idea that there was at some point completely nothing is just as acceptable as the idea that there has always been something.

On regards as to creating something from completely nothing, it depends what you mean by nothing if you mean nothing as in just its constituent elements then that itself is nearly possible, what is further away however is watching an organism assemble itself in the sense of no outside interference although progress is being made along this path.

How could there possibly always be something?
Nearly is good enough to explain why living being exist!
Science never created anything and the earth was made of Theories

To pick up on another couple of points you raised Tito you mentioned Women covering themselves up helped stop rate, lame me if you think I'm being a bit picky but don't you think that this shifts the onus of blame for the rape onto the woman as if its their fault for tempting the man to rape them therefore they must cover themselves up?  Can we not just try and get men to stop raping and sexually abusing them.

I'm not saying that the women are to blame but they should take care of themselves. Would like you sister to be wear the 'new regeneration of clothing' that seem more and more  revealing for god sake how could some people walk with clothing that so revealing the even breasts and asses can be seen. the covering up of the girl is a sign of their status and level of protection rather than an enslavement or denial of rights

In regards to sex before marriage you say it is only used for pleasure and can only eventually bring pain, whilst this may be true in some cases consider a couple who have sex and then get married surely they receive pleasure earlier and suffer no negative effects from this.  Or it could be argued that there is nothing wrong with the idea of having sex only for pleasure even if it does cause either party emotional pain as this would stop them from marrying or having relations with another person of the same mold, and this is in the case that either party gets hurt but if they don't what is the problem with doing something no-hazardous if all precautions are taken for pleasure.

It's not necessary and your example of the couple that got married what would be the difference if they didn't have sex before marriage. Risk V Reward the scale tips towards the risky side. That Muslim countries have the lowest HIV rates.

can you honestly tell me one benefit of sex before marriage beside 'pleasure'

i'll link you to ten:

http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/10-surprising-health-benefits-of-sex

i said Sex before marriage

[oLi]

You actually believe that?

  If your referring to the belief that something was created from nothing i wouldn't completely dismiss it because, although i have no intention of being Religious nor do i see many benefits in it, the idea that there was at some point completely nothing is just as acceptable as the idea that there has always been something.

On regards as to creating something from completely nothing, it depends what you mean by nothing if you mean nothing as in just its constituent elements then that itself is nearly possible, what is further away however is watching an organism assemble itself in the sense of no outside interference although progress is being made along this path.

How could there possibly always be something?
Nearly is good enough to explain why living being exist!
Science never created anything and the earth was made of Theories

To pick up on another couple of points you raised Tito you mentioned Women covering themselves up helped stop rate, lame me if you think I'm being a bit picky but don't you think that this shifts the onus of blame for the rape onto the woman as if its their fault for tempting the man to rape them therefore they must cover themselves up?  Can we not just try and get men to stop raping and sexually abusing them.

I'm not saying that the women are to blame but they should take care of themselves. Would like you sister to be wear the 'new regeneration of clothing' that seem more and more  revealing for god sake how could some people walk with clothing that so revealing the even breasts and asses can be seen. the covering up of the girl is a sign of their status and level of protection rather than an enslavement or denial of rights

In regards to sex before marriage you say it is only used for pleasure and can only eventually bring pain, whilst this may be true in some cases consider a couple who have sex and then get married surely they receive pleasure earlier and suffer no negative effects from this.  Or it could be argued that there is nothing wrong with the idea of having sex only for pleasure even if it does cause either party emotional pain as this would stop them from marrying or having relations with another person of the same mold, and this is in the case that either party gets hurt but if they don't what is the problem with doing something no-hazardous if all precautions are taken for pleasure.

It's not necessary and your example of the couple that got married what would be the difference if they didn't have sex before marriage. Risk V Reward the scale tips towards the risky side. That Muslim countries have the lowest HIV rates.

can you honestly tell me one benefit of sex before marriage beside 'pleasure'

i'll link you to ten:

http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/10-surprising-health-benefits-of-sex

i said Sex before marriage

Yeah and those benefits are equal wether you're having sex with a person you're married to or a person you meet 15 minutes ago