religion

[L_I_S]

i have this question, and no one has an answer for me yet.
It is supposed to be that god is pefect, and because of this, ihe doesn't need anything, he's all happy, he's all joy, he's all handsome.... etc.
So, the question is: Why would god create us? He doesn't need us...??

he was lonely.

[a;sdlfkjas;df]

Yeah and those benefits are equal wether you're having sex with a person you're married to or a person you meet 15 minutes ago

yeah, the article didn't read "10 surprising health benefits of marital sex"

[a;sdlfkjas;df]

Science never created anything and the earth was made of Theories

think about that the next time you need to go to the doctor, or need a ride somewhere, or need to microwave something, or need to post on beyondfootball, or need to put your cleats on to play soccer, or need to put a shirt on, or need to go to the grocery store, or need to use the restroom, or need to use the shower...

the covering up of the girl is a sign of their status and level of protection rather than an enslavement or denial of rights

sorry, i just can't see the problem w/a t-shirt and a pair of fucking shorts.  if you would like to protect your woman, give her a can of mace

That Muslim countries have the lowest HIV rates.

though, there is great speculation as to whether or not these hiv rates are grossly underreported.  regardless, there's an easy "fix" to this.  wear a fucking condom, but there's no guarantee that you could eliminate the risk completely w/marriage, and it's not like a monogamous relationship out of wed-lock doesn't guarantee similar safety

[Royal Freakiness]

the covering up of the girl is a sign of their status and level of protection rather than an enslavement or denial of rights

sorry, i just can't see the problem w/a t-shirt and a pair of fucking shorts.  if you would like to protect your woman, give her a can of mace

it raises the lvl of a woman actually
instead of looking at her with lust, men will look at her with respect because of her piety
I dunno why it's so hard to understand that
if you put two twins together, one wore whatever she likes while exposing her body a bit, and the other one fully clothed
what do you think will happen if a flippin rapist passes by. who would he aim for?
and I don't see why it's such a frikkin problem for you non-Muslims. it's not your religion
and btw, we don't force the women to cover the face
the minimum requirement is to cover the body except the hands and the face
the ones who cover their face, are the ones who want to cover
look at the christian nuns for example
why the eff don't you ask them to change what they wear? why don't you go bash christianity instead?

statistics tell that in america, an average of 2000 women are being raped a day.
think logically for a sec... what would happen if they all wore decently at least?

[a;sdlfkjas;df]

It protects a woman so men have less urges to rape etc

right, so it's a complete lack of personal responsibility.

what do you think will happen if a flippin rapist passes by. who would he aim for?

it's not like he doesn't know what's under there.

and I don't see why it's such a frikkin problem for you non-Muslims. it's not your religion

it's not, but this is a discussion forum.  what the fuck else are we going to talk about in here?  youtube videos?  funny pictures?  regardless of the ultimate futility of this thread, at least it's somewhat engaging and informative.  i've learned a lot more about islam from these threads than i ever would've from the news,etc.

(not that i have any problem w/youtube videos or funny pictures.  there's just not that much to say about them)

and btw, we don't force the women to cover the face
the minimum requirement is to cover the body except the hands and the face
the ones who cover their face, are the ones who want to cover

so, it is a denial of rights?  i mean, seriously, regardless of the reasoning behind it, call it what it is

look at the christian nuns for example

fairplay.  although, nuns are celibate and entrance into an order is completely voluntary

why the eff don't you ask them to change what they wear? why don't you go bash christianity instead?

it hasn't been brought up.  i generally don't enter these threads until science is brought into the mix anyway.

[Royal Freakiness]

did I mention that men also have a minimum requirement for covering the body?
cover from the navel to the knees
almost any single body part of a woman can turn a man on
that's why they have to cover everything

it's not like he doesn't know what's under there.

that's why it's better to have marriage first before sex
he won't know till he gets married
and don't say that's the reason why muslim men get married. just to have sex...  :bs:

right, so it's a complete lack of personal responsibility.

like the Prophet said, prevention is better than cure
to cover the woman up, is to prevent bad things from happening

so, it is a denial of rights?

the west's idea of human rights are so different from Islam's perspective
if the so-called "male religion" wants to protect it's women from bad things, what's wrong?
and it's not like women are the only ones who get punished for doing bad things
if a man doesn't take care of his wife properly, he will be accountable

why don't we allow women to wear shorts, why don't we allow women to show cleavage
you know that man is weak when it comes to sexual matters
ask him, do this hottie for free. he'd do it
90% of men would do it
ask a woman do this hot dude for free, few would do it
once again
"prevention is better than cure"

[a;sdlfkjas;df]

did I mention that men also have a minimum for clothes?
cover from the navel to the knees
almost any single body part of a woman can turn a man on
that's why they have to cover everything

that's not very much.  it's not like from the navel-up/knees-down can't turn a woman on

that's why it's better to have marriage first before sex
he won't know till he gets married

we're talking about a rapist here.

like the Prophet said, prevention is better than cure
to cover the woman up, is to prevent bad things from happening

that doesn't really hit the root of the problem, but i'll leave this alone

the west's idea of human rights are so different from Islam's perspective

i know.  if it wasn't, wouldn't you think that this would be a non-issue?

if the so-called "male religion" wants to protect it's women from bad things, what's wrong?
and it's not like women are the only ones who get punished for doing bad things
if a man doesn't take care of his wife properly, he will be accountable

let me put my response in context:

I'm not saying that the women are to blame but they should take care of themselves. Would like you sister to be wear the 'new regeneration of clothing' that seem more and more  revealing for god sake how could some people walk with clothing that so revealing the even breasts and asses can be seen.  the covering up of the girl is a sign of their status and level of protection rather than an enslavement or denial of rights

then again, you'd have to put that response in context as well.

i think that most of us have a problem w/the notion that women need to be protected.  i think that many women in modern society have proven this to be quite wrong.

[Royal Freakiness]

we're talking about a rapist here.

would he be a rapist if he was brought up with ppl around who wore decently?

that's not very much.  it's not like from the navel-up/knees-down can't turn a woman on

"you know that man is weak when it comes to sexual matters
ask him, do this hottie for free. he'd do it
90% of men would do it
ask a woman do this hot dude for free, few would do it"

i think that most of us have a problem w/the notion that women need to be protected.  i think that many women in modern society have proven this to be quite wrong.

oh yeah? what about the average of 2000 women in america who are being raped daily?
 :booty:

like the Prophet said, prevention is better than cure
to cover the woman up, is to prevent bad things from happening

that doesn't really hit the root of the problem

but does it help reduce the amount of disgusting things happening to women?
obviously yes

[a;sdlfkjas;df]

would he be a rapist if he was brought up with ppl around who wore decently?

probably.  a rapist is a "deviant."

ask a woman do this hot dude for free, few would do it

 :lol:

oh yeah? what about the average of 2000 women in america who are being raped daily?

weird, i pulled up by-country statistics for rape.  places like tunisia, qatar, and saudi arabia are still in the top 65 surrounded by "modern societies."  that's not to mention the "over-disclosure" of rape in "modern societies." 

"DEFINITION: Total recorded rapes. Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence. Per capita figures expressed per 1,000 population."

i wonder...if i was in a muslim country and raped, would i come forward?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita

but does it help reduce the amount of disgusting things happening to women?
obviously yes

w/a little discretion, rape, as with any crime, is easy to avoid.  you don't need to cover up to avoid it.

[Royal Freakiness]

i wonder...if i was in a muslim country and raped, would i come forward?

what are you trying to imply?
were you brainwashed into thinking that all muslim countries punish the rape victim instead of the rapist?
lol
very few do. correct me if I'm wrong, I think iran and pakistan are some of them
this is the real ruling in islam on rape

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1125407868541

weird, i pulled up by-country statistics for rape.  places like tunisia, qatar, and saudi arabia are still in the top 65 surrounded by "modern societies."  that's not to mention the "over-disclosure" of rape in "modern societies."

"DEFINITION: Total recorded rapes. Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence. Per capita figures expressed per 1,000 population."

i wonder...if i was in a muslim country and raped, would i come forward?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita

look at the top 30
none of them try to follow the sharia
look at the difference in numbers between those you mentioned and those above them
who cover up more? Muslim countries, or non-Muslim countries
obviously covering up more has to count for the number being less in muslim countries

unless Muslim men can control themselves more than non-Muslims
there are a billion muslims out there now, how many of them represent actual Islam and how many of them are just Muslim by name?
an advice would be, check the original sources first. (Qur'an and Sunna of the Prophet)
don't go bashing Islam because of the amazing % of retarded Muslims there are who don't look at themselves

if you want to talk about religion, question the main sources
should I generalize Priests by saying they all like kiddos?

[Mike]

This is kind of fun.

It seems as you muslims see the woman as something contagious that needs to be covered up in order to prevent the males to commit their unavoidable cravings to rape any female when exposed to. There is no stopping us!

Wouldn't it be better to just lock them up reall hard, so we even wouldn't be able to smell them? Put them all in jails where no men are allowed. In that case no rapes will occur. When they are old enough, marry them to someone so the sex spree can start.

Regarding sex before marriage: who cares what the benefits are!? Sex brings joy to people; doesn't that count for something? Do whatever makes you feel good (as long as it doesn't bring misery anyone else), and I can assure you'll have a good life (unless you die from some nasty deceas).

Though seriously: is it worth reducing rapes if the cost is the females freedom?

[Royal Freakiness]

This is kind of fun.

It seems as you muslims see the woman as something contagious that needs to be covered up in order to prevent the males to commit their unavoidable cravings to rape any female when exposed to. There is no stopping us!

Wouldn't it be better to just lock them up reall hard, so we even wouldn't be able to smell them? Put them all in jails where no men are allowed. In that case no rapes will occur. When they are old enough, marry them to someone so the sex spree can start.

Regarding sex before marriage: who cares what the benefits are!? Sex brings joy to people; doesn't that count for something? Do whatever makes you feel good (as long as it doesn't bring misery anyone else), and I can assure you'll have a good life (unless you die from some nasty deceas).

Though seriously: is it worth reducing rapes if the cost is the females freedom?

your idea of female freedom brings about the sickening no. of rapes
let them wear whatever they want, yeah, as long as we all have fun, why should we care about the minority who get raped?  :bs:

It seems as you muslims see the woman as something contagious that needs to be covered up in order to prevent the males to commit their unavoidable cravings to rape any female when exposed to. There is no stopping us! Wouldn't it be better to just lock them up reall hard, so we even wouldn't be able to smell them? Put them all in jails where no men are allowed. In that case no rapes will occur. When they are old enough, marry them to someone so the sex spree can start.

nice one
bring up sarcasm to a serious matter
you obviously don't take your life seriously
religion is a part of everyone, whether you believe in it or not
and no, we don't see women as something contagious
are you that stupid?
on the contrary actually
we believe they're beautiful creatures that need to be protected
wtf?
isn't it shameful that a woman gets f!@#ed by a no. of different men?
and why Islam also enforces that sex should be done only by a husband and wife is because what happens if a woman gets pregnant with some random ass dude because of casual sex after a "fun" and drunk night in the club
yeah, what now?
abortion? you gonna kill a baby because of your facking stupidity?
single motherhood? no dad to take care of the baby?
she's gonna be REAL happy after she gets pregnant
and don't say just use a condom
there are lots of times where the condom will just slip then oh no!