Htlatw

[GrIzz]

For me this trick is lhtatw and skora move is htlatw.
Why is ltatw named ltatw, yes beacuse lemmens comes before tatw,- ltatw

szymoatw, lemmens comes before htatw,- lhtatw
skoramove, homie touzani comes before lemmens,- htlatw

I think you have a point there..... but I think call the tricks like that is abit crazy... because look at this...

htlatw: homie touzani lemmens around the world....
does that trick include a htatw and a lemmes in one trick?? no no... it does include only 1 htatw and no lemmens... just 1 additional rotation, wich in that case is a htw...
if you call the trick like this, in my philosofy to read tricks, it could easily be a htatw-lemmns nt...but in theory its a htatw-htw nt

same as with taatw= touzani abbas atw...but does this trick really include a tatw and an aatw in 1 move?? no it doesent... same as with other example... it includes 1 rco and 1 touzani... not 1 abbas and 1 touzani...
the trick could easily be a tatw-abbas nt.... but it isnt... its just a rco-tatw nt
That is the main reason why calling "mixed tricks" for a trick make so much confussion....at least my opinion...


I just hope my statemant is clear...
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your statement is very clear my friend, but names must be given to triks.
one way or another the triks can be named diffrently. just the way your personal mind sees it names the trick.
you statet it yourself.
So ppl will maybe always complain why tricks are named ditt and datt.
So what makes the trick name?
what would you name ltatw then?
is my explanation about szatw correct? lemmens htatw,-lhtatw?

I just gave examples, and I personally think ltatw is in the same group of examples... isnt it more logical to call it lcross??(lemmens cross)...
because the trick it self is a latw ending it with a cross... not with a tatw ....

but this names of tricks have been on freestyle comunity for ages... so who the fuck im I to change it??
really, I dont wanna make this a big deal.... not even with you yoacim...

and talking about your szatw exaplanation....
I dont think its a lhtatw.... because that would have 4 rotation's... htatw=2rotations + latw = 2 rotations = 4 rotation... and in fact the trick has 3 rotations... latw=2rotations + htw= 1 rotation... lhatw would sound more appropiated in my opinion.. or you can call it hltatw(actually according to me it would be hlcross)

but I reapeat... Im none to change name's of some trick's that have been in freestyle community for long time....

oh and btw... Im not trying to be annoying with you or anything like that... im just giving my opinion... so sorry if someone feels im annoying shit...
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Hey man, i have nothing against you, your a decent guy.
Your entitled to you opinions,i didnt make quotes from you and makes states to pick up fight,i made it beacuse iam currios about others knowledge or opionions. If you understand?

As i stated above,- your not annoying,- you make good post and have your own opinion,- and you share them.
Your a good guy.

about the ltatw thingy, i do get the lcross as you explain it. i think changing things like this will make to much of effort since ppl call tricks this and that nowadays.

peace up bro

[Cogliono Grande]

It's hard to give tricks as htlatw a name, since they're a combo but they look like on trick. Tatw is easy cause it's an easy combo that can't be changed if you should be correct. Htlatw is. It can be hatw-alatw nt, htatw-htw or htatw-atw nt. It's should be called Skóra move. But he has at least three moves now so it's a bit messy. Hfxatw is the most correct name imo.

Same with Szatw, it's just that the two rotations is on the first part of the trick unlike in htlatw where the two rotations are at last. Szatw is half latw-htw nt. Or Hatw-Htatw nt for that matter.

[Leha]

htlatw can be hatw-alatw nt like Skora does
and can be htatw-htw nt like others do

[{++ } Lukas fs {++}]

Hey man, i have nothing against you, your a decent guy.
Your entitled to you opinions,i didnt make quotes from you and makes states to pick up fight,i made it beacuse iam currios about others knowledge or opionions. If you understand?

As i stated above,- your not annoying,- you make good post and have your own opinion,- and you share them.
Your a good guy.

about the ltatw thingy, i do get the lcross as you explain it. i think changing things like this will make to much of effort since ppl call tricks this and that nowadays.

peace up bro

Thaanks man... appreciate it... :thumbsup:

and yeah, I completly agree with you.... and as I said before, perfect named or not, trick names have been here for ages..... so im none to change that....

and I said the thingy of me beeing annoying  not for you, you seem to understand that forums are to share opinions, discuss, help, etc..... its just that there are alot of ppl in this forum who dont know it and allways call someone annoying, dick, bitch, motherfucker, assfucked, etc just because they give opinions that are different to their own one's

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[TF]

as i said in another thread trick names beyond atw cross rev cross x over and a few others are so retarted
macca said on msn it would be cool to have like skora trick 1 palle trick 2 etc
so in combos it would be amatw skora 1 nt instead of amatw ahmatwhatwmhtatwltatwlhatw nt
plus it would be less of a mouthful to say

thanks for listening

[TW89]

This thread = Freestyle geekyness   (word?)

If people stopped inventin new tricks, there'd be no problem  :down:

[IWannaBeChuckNorris]

I think hfxatw is the perfect replacement name for htlatw, good job coming up with it.

sorry for changing the topic a bit, but I think that ducking moves need a official and logical system of naming which should be established before people start coming up with there own stupid names for them that will end up sticking even though they don't make any sense

does anyone have any ideas for that?

[{++ } Lukas fs {++}]

I think hfxatw is the perfect replacement name for htlatw, good job coming up with it.

sorry for changing the topic a bit, but I think that ducking moves need a official and logical system of naming which should be established before people start coming up with there own stupid names for them that will end up sticking even though they don't make any sense

does anyone have any ideas for that?

Glad you liked my idea.... :thumbsup:

[Macca]

i think the issue is that there are some tricks that are genuinely unique such as atw, hatw, htw, tatw, matw, latw, htatw, amatw, aatw...
and others are just variations of two or more tricks

the perfect example is TAATW, it started off as timo atw but as people were able to do harder tricks they would have to think of wierd names like reverse timo (for maatw) and homie timo (htaatw)... and of course this issue was solved by eventually accepting timo atw was then known as TAATW

now we have all these crazy tricks that are mostly a combination of homie trick (htatw or hmatw) combined with a no touch trick
the most basic example, palle move... either we start calling it hatw-amatw(nt) or make a new system for naming these tricks, i proposed that idea in my other post on page 2 lol (which i actually think works once u understand it haha)...


basically my point is that (for technicality sake) we cant continue calling these tricks palle move, skora atw etc... of course the creators deserve credit but for these combo debates to end its the only thing we can do...

[Cogliono Grande]

basically my point is that (for technicality sake) we cant continue calling these tricks palle move, skora atw etc... of course the creators deserve credit but for these combo debates to end its the only thing we can do...

I will only refer to your point since it's no sence quoting everything. I agree with you, but we can't call it hatw-amatw nt either. It's a simple trick. Maybe htamatw or something. I'm not the person to decide.

[IWannaBeChuckNorris]

I just realized, what about the new trick skora did in air combos 3
would it be mhfxatw?

[{++ } Lukas fs {++}]

I just realized, what about the new trick skora did in air combos 3
would it be mhfxatw?

exactly... mitch hfxatw.... or hfxatw-air jester nt...

mhfxatw is ok