Htlatw

[{++ } Lukas fs {++}]

wats the arzcis thread?

so, htlatw is that the trick that looks like hatw-alatw nt? or is it now hfxatw?

yes... actually its the same... hatw-alatw nt = hfxatw...
same as   htatw-cross nt = palle move...and same as htatw-htw nt = skala atw, and same as ahmatw-cross nt=skora atw... and I can give you a long list about other examples...

I hope my point is well expressed... almost every trick is a combo, but if it is special, hardcore or creative, etc then it may have the name of it's "owner"...

 :cheers:

idk about palle move looking like htatw-co nt, but im certain that skala atw doesnt look like htatw-htw nt. looks more like atw nt at the end.

yes you are right... I made a mistake... its htatw-atw nt... and about palle... its htatw-cross nt wich is the same as atw-amatw nt... if you think about it a while you`ll notice its exactly the same... although atw-amatw nt is the real way to think about it whenn you are doing the trick...

[L_I_S]

the problem with htatw-CO nt is that the CO can be done with either foot and still b considerd CO...correct me if im rong.

[{++ } Lukas fs {++}]

the problem with htatw-CO nt is that the CO can be done with either foot and still b considerd CO...correct me if im rong.

no... you are wrong....

one is airjester wich is like a cross but with the first touch you make is with one foot, and trick motion you do it with another foot...
cross is like airjester but the alternative version... it would be across(alternate cross)...

But I must thank you :cheers:!! because you made me realise that htatw-cross nt isnt palle atw.... it really is htatw-air jester nt

and htatw-cross nt is fxatw in theory... hehe...

 :cheers:

[L_I_S]

the problem with htatw-CO nt is that the CO can be done with either foot and still b considerd CO...correct me if im rong.

no... you are wrong....

one is airjester wich is like a cross but with the first touch you make is with one foot, and trick motion you do it with another foot...
cross is like airjester but the alternative version... it would be across(alternate cross)...

But I must thank you :cheers:!! because you made me realise that htatw-cross nt isnt palle atw.... it really is htatw-air jester nt

and htatw-cross nt is fxatw in theory... hehe...

 :cheers:

umm ok. ur welcome...i think. anyway, all i want to remember is palle move is palle move .

[Nicky]

hatw alatw = htlatw

Indeed,

But if htlatw = hatw-alatw nt, how can u split hltatw? latw(out)-opp atw (in) nt ?

[Macca]

i think its wrong to call some moves as cross(nt) combos...

because if you think about it, you can do atw-cross(nt) but still not have it be a TATW (like how michryc does sometimes)...

i think its a difficult area when it comes to tricks like palle move, "htlatw" (hatw-alatw nt), skora atw etc...
i always thought itd be easier if we had a system for naming those tricks, eg palle move should be HTAMATW (homie touzani alternate mitchy atw), and following this system skora atw would become AHMAMATW and hatw-alatw(nt) become HTALATW... also skala atw would then become HTAHMATW

lol after reading that maybe im going crazy and too far (as those tricks are mouthfuls lol) but its the only way i could see the debate of naming these tricks end (despite the very doubtful chance of it being implemented)

[{++ } Lukas fs {++}]

i think its wrong to call some moves as cross(nt) combos...

because if you think about it, you can do atw-cross(nt) but still not have it be a TATW (like how michryc does sometimes)...

i think its a difficult area when it comes to tricks like palle move, "htlatw" (hatw-alatw nt), skora atw etc...
i always thought itd be easier if we had a system for naming those tricks, eg palle move should be HTAMATW (homie touzani alternate mitchy atw), and following this system skora atw would become AHMAMATW and hatw-alatw(nt) become HTALATW... also skala atw would then become HTAHMATW

lol after reading that maybe im going crazy and too far (as those tricks are mouthfuls lol) but its the only way i could see the debate of naming these tricks end (despite the very doubtful chance of it being implemented)

great post... who would be such a fuck to call skala as htahmatw now that it has his own name??... same as with szymo atw, and other things...but htlatw can make confussions... so the best way(my opinion) to call htlatw would be hfxatw... there you dont have much complications like everyone is generating now..

and talking about the thing's you said about tatw, I think in some way you are right... it can make confussions... but as far as I know that tihng kind of atw-cross nt michryc and other freestylers sometimes do, dont have it's own name
so what about giving  it a name?? wtatw (weird tatw)??

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[GrIzz]

For me this trick is lhtatw and skora move is htlatw.
Why is ltatw named ltatw, yes beacuse lemmens comes before tatw,- ltatw

szymoatw, lemmens comes before htatw,- lhtatw
skoramove, homie touzani comes before lemmens,- htlatw

[{++ } Lukas fs {++}]

For me this trick is lhtatw and skora move is htlatw.
Why is ltatw named ltatw, yes beacuse lemmens comes before tatw,- ltatw

szymoatw, lemmens comes before htatw,- lhtatw
skoramove, homie touzani comes before lemmens,- htlatw

I think you have a point there..... but I think call the tricks like that is abit crazy... because look at this...

htlatw: homie touzani lemmens around the world....
does that trick include a htatw and a lemmes in one trick?? no no... it does include only 1 htatw and no lemmens... just 1 additional rotation, wich in that case is a htw...
if you call the trick like this, in my philosofy to read tricks, it could easily be a htatw-lemmns nt...but in theory its a htatw-htw nt

same as with taatw= touzani abbas atw...but does this trick really include a tatw and an aatw in 1 move?? no it doesent... same as with other example... it includes 1 rco and 1 touzani... not 1 abbas and 1 touzani...
the trick could easily be a tatw-abbas nt.... but it isnt... its just a rco-tatw nt
That is the main reason why calling "mixed tricks" for a trick make so much confussion....at least my opinion...


I just hope my statemant is clear...
 :cheers:
 

[GrIzz]

For me this trick is lhtatw and skora move is htlatw.
Why is ltatw named ltatw, yes beacuse lemmens comes before tatw,- ltatw

szymoatw, lemmens comes before htatw,- lhtatw
skoramove, homie touzani comes before lemmens,- htlatw

I think you have a point there..... but I think call the tricks like that is abit crazy... because look at this...

htlatw: homie touzani lemmens around the world....
does that trick include a htatw and a lemmes in one trick?? no no... it does include only 1 htatw and no lemmens... just 1 additional rotation, wich in that case is a htw...
if you call the trick like this, in my philosofy to read tricks, it could easily be a htatw-lemmns nt...but in theory its a htatw-htw nt

same as with taatw= touzani abbas atw...but does this trick really include a tatw and an aatw in 1 move?? no it doesent... same as with other example... it includes 1 rco and 1 touzani... not 1 abbas and 1 touzani...
the trick could easily be a tatw-abbas nt.... but it isnt... its just a rco-tatw nt
That is the main reason why calling "mixed tricks" for a trick make so much confussion....at least my opinion...


I just hope my statemant is clear...
 :cheers:
 

your statement is very clear my friend, but names must be given to triks.
one way or another the triks can be named diffrently. just the way your personal mind sees it names the trick.
you statet it yourself.
So ppl will maybe always complain why tricks are named ditt and datt.
So what makes the trick name?
what would you name ltatw then?
is my explanation about szatw correct? lemmens htatw,-lhtatw?

[BigMac]

what is tlatw?  :lol:

[{++ } Lukas fs {++}]

For me this trick is lhtatw and skora move is htlatw.
Why is ltatw named ltatw, yes beacuse lemmens comes before tatw,- ltatw

szymoatw, lemmens comes before htatw,- lhtatw
skoramove, homie touzani comes before lemmens,- htlatw

I think you have a point there..... but I think call the tricks like that is abit crazy... because look at this...

htlatw: homie touzani lemmens around the world....
does that trick include a htatw and a lemmes in one trick?? no no... it does include only 1 htatw and no lemmens... just 1 additional rotation, wich in that case is a htw...
if you call the trick like this, in my philosofy to read tricks, it could easily be a htatw-lemmns nt...but in theory its a htatw-htw nt

same as with taatw= touzani abbas atw...but does this trick really include a tatw and an aatw in 1 move?? no it doesent... same as with other example... it includes 1 rco and 1 touzani... not 1 abbas and 1 touzani...
the trick could easily be a tatw-abbas nt.... but it isnt... its just a rco-tatw nt
That is the main reason why calling "mixed tricks" for a trick make so much confussion....at least my opinion...


I just hope my statemant is clear...
 :cheers:
 

your statement is very clear my friend, but names must be given to triks.
one way or another the triks can be named diffrently. just the way your personal mind sees it names the trick.
you statet it yourself.
So ppl will maybe always complain why tricks are named ditt and datt.
So what makes the trick name?
what would you name ltatw then?
is my explanation about szatw correct? lemmens htatw,-lhtatw?

I just gave examples, and I personally think ltatw is in the same group of examples... isnt it more logical to call it lcross??(lemmens cross)...
because the trick it self is a latw ending it with a cross... not with a tatw ....

but this names of tricks have been on freestyle comunity for ages... so who the fuck im I to change it??
really, I dont wanna make this a big deal.... not even with you yoacim...

and talking about your szatw exaplanation....
I dont think its a lhtatw.... because that would have 4 rotation's... htatw=2rotations + latw = 2 rotations = 4 rotation... and in fact the trick has 3 rotations... latw=2rotations + htw= 1 rotation... lhatw would sound more appropiated in my opinion.. or you can call it hltatw(actually according to me it would be hlcross)

but I reapeat... Im none to change name's of some trick's that have been in freestyle community for long time....

oh and btw... Im not trying to be annoying with you or anything like that... im just giving my opinion... so sorry if someone feels im annoying shit...
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