Life after death after life?

[Jono]

oh and jono if you are in med school.....god damn....

Im startin my 1st year this year...what i know about evolution is what i know from high school. And why would i bother explaining evolution in this debate when i believe in God.

i'm not familiar with how it works in (wherever you are from), but here you usually go to University first to get a degree in biological sciences, chemistry, etc. and you learn about a LOT of things (ecology and evolution included)

Yeah thats the same here i guess, except i havnt started uni yet. I learnt about the basic information i guess on evolution in high school. I did both biology and chemistry.

[Tito]

dude did you even read my post? Thats not at all what I said...but I'll address your points as if it were, because you're a retard

Unfortunately, I don't have a q'uran on hand, but I can tell you right off the bat that the whole notion of intelligent design is scientifically incorrect. I never said that only muslims say that their way is THE way, but in this thread, it happens to be Muslims who are saying it. If a Jew said it, I'd react in the exact same way, which I have in the past. From what you've shown hare so far, all you've done is been fed line upon line upon line of religious pseudo-interpretation, and you've taken it as truth without question. My study of religion (which, especially within the context of my own and christianity has been quite extensive) is infused with a healthy dosage of doubt so as to head off side effect of blind faith and being like you.

 :lol: @ your usage of 'undistorted.' I mean, if you meant to say 'distorted' then it would've sounded half-logical...I mean, if I were to study a text using contextually invalid and shoddy literary technique, I could conclude that each text shows that christ was a lecher, but theres no point in that, because anybody with half a brain and a knowledge of context and literary theory can see that such interpretation is groundless.

I never said that all Muslims are blind. I think YOU are blind. In fact, I lean towards the conclusion that all religious people are blind, although I've found a few exceptions...

I never said the q'uran was a copy of the bible, I said that it was influenced by the bible, which is only natural...look the figures of Abraham and Ishmael, look at the monotheistic similarities, look at the similarities in food laws...both are legitimate, and great, although flawed texts, written by some of the greatest minds oin human history, but they are both unworthy of human worship.

you still say it was written by Muhammad and his companions....  :booty:
and who the eff said we worship the book!???
 :cursing:
how am I blind?
read this again
"and many of them, when studied properly from the undistorted part of the religious texts (coz 95% of them were)"
can't you understand it?
many of the text were distorted, and the ones that weren't point out proofs of One true God and the coming of Prophet Muhammad and talks about the ten commandments etc
those weren't distorted and were original text sent down by God
Qur'an was the only one that wasn't changed at all, and it will stay as it is, as Allah promised

so many assumptions

does allah exist? And I'm saying the these texts were contextually misinterpreted...

also, all of these texts were written by people, so unless they logically prove something, they are essentially valueless to everyone except for people like you who feel the need to mold everything to their narrow worldview

does an Atoms exist?

[moby]

for those who say the quran was written by Muhammad

He has let loose the two seas, converging together, with a barrier between them they do not break through.

Qur'an, 55:19-20

this means the barrier between salt and fresh water

a person in the deserts of Arabia 1426 years ago, could he have known this



And it is We Who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it. (Qur'an, 51:47)

Big Bang thoery states the universe is expanding and this was found out a few years ago

now tell me could Muhammad a person who lived 1,426 years ago known this?

we then formed the drop into a clot and formed the clot into a lump and formed the lump into bones and clothed the bones in flesh; and then brought him into being as another creature. Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators! (Qur'an, 23:14)

Could Muhammed who could not read or write have known the stages a baby goes through when in the womb

[AznMagic]

for those who say the quran was written by Muhammad

He has let loose the two seas, converging together, with a barrier between them they do not break through.

Qur'an, 55:19-20

this means the barrier between salt and fresh water

a person in the deserts of Arabia 1426 years ago, could he have known this



And it is We Who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it. (Qur'an, 51:47)

Big Bang thoery states the universe is expanding and this was found out a few years ago

now tell me could Muhammad a person who lived 1,426 years ago known this?

we then formed the drop into a clot and formed the clot into a lump and formed the lump into bones and clothed the bones in flesh; and then brought him into being as another creature. Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators! (Qur'an, 23:14)

Could Muhammed who could not read or write have known the stages a baby goes through when in the womb

yea ppl do that shit with nostradaumus too.  and we know nostradaumus wasn't actually predicting the future, it's just how some ppl interpreted his texts.

[Tito]

answer my damn question junior

does an Atoms exist?

[moby]

yea ppl do that shit with nostradaumus too.  and we know nostradaumus wasn't actually predicting the future, it's just how some ppl interpreted his texts.

can you bring proof of this weird charcter called nostradaumus

[AznMagic]

yea ppl do that shit with nostradaumus too.  and we know nostradaumus wasn't actually predicting the future, it's just how some ppl interpreted his texts.

can you bring proof of this weird charcter called nostradaumus

it's called google.  i suggest you use it.

[Jono]

yea ppl do that shit with nostradaumus too.  and we know nostradaumus wasn't actually predicting the future, it's just how some ppl interpreted his texts.

can you bring proof of this weird charcter called nostradaumus

Nostradamus was a man who was born in the 1500s. He predicted things that have occured in this present time. Including 9/11. But this is just how people translated his work...

[Tito]

yea ppl do that shit with nostradaumus too.  and we know nostradaumus wasn't actually predicting the future, it's just how some ppl interpreted his texts.

http://www.harunyahya.com/miracles_of_the_quran_p2_01.php

• From most ancient and the most recent
• From a quran on one side of the world and one on the other
• From either side of the equator

All are the same, in terms of, every aspect.
And for so long

And someone (preferably one who doesn't believe Allah exists)

does an Atoms exist?

[AznMagic]

yea ppl do that shit with nostradaumus too.  and we know nostradaumus wasn't actually predicting the future, it's just how some ppl interpreted his texts.

http://www.harunyahya.com/miracles_of_the_quran_p2_01.php

• From most ancient and the most recent
• From a quran on one side of the world and one on the other
• From either side of the equator

All are the same, in terms of, every aspect.
And for so long

And someone (preferably one who doesn't believe Allah exists)

does an Atoms exist?

i stand by my statement

[Tito]

yea ppl do that shit with nostradaumus too.  and we know nostradaumus wasn't actually predicting the future, it's just how some ppl interpreted his texts.

http://www.harunyahya.com/miracles_of_the_quran_p2_01.php

• From most ancient and the most recent
• From a quran on one side of the world and one on the other
• From either side of the equator

All are the same, in terms of, every aspect.
And for so long

And someone (preferably one who doesn't believe Allah exists)

does an Atoms exist?

i stand by my statement

then honestly get the fuck out of this conversation we heard your words
and if thats all you got to say then thats all i want to read

[AznMagic]

yea ppl do that shit with nostradaumus too.  and we know nostradaumus wasn't actually predicting the future, it's just how some ppl interpreted his texts.

http://www.harunyahya.com/miracles_of_the_quran_p2_01.php

• From most ancient and the most recent
• From a quran on one side of the world and one on the other
• From either side of the equator

All are the same, in terms of, every aspect.
And for so long

And someone (preferably one who doesn't believe Allah exists)

does an Atoms exist?

i stand by my statement

then honestly get the fuck out of this conversation we heard your words
and if thats all you got to say then thats all i want to read

so easily stirred up hahahahaha