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Re: What's the worst thing to happen to the freestyle community?
« Reply #24 on: Aug 07, 2013, 03:44: AM »
I don't know how else to explain my self. But because I like you, I will repeat what I said and answer you as well.
I'll put in it order of your post.

1. It's not meant to be an attack on you, only your values on how you see freestyle and where/how it should grow and all that. Just because I like some things about you doesn't mean I can't talk about my values and how they're completely opposite to yours and why I think my way is the best way.

2. The problem was the division. What's better, 1 forum with 50 posts a day or two with 25 posts a day? Anyone who comes to a forum and sees the latter will feel that there's no one around and then they drop off causing the number to drop.
I don't mind freestyle growing, I just don't want to see freestyle as a whole cater to non-freestyles first just because they're the lowest common denominator. I also don't want freestylers to be associated with casuals, which is what your videos are actually catered too, not people who actually want to learn, it's just the flava of the month to them. If I recall correctly you listen to rap music, right? What if you said I like rap music and the first thing to jump into my head was 'Oh, he's into guys like lil Wayne'. He caters to the lowest common denominator too and for that most people may think lil Wayne when you think rap. Same with freestyle and how skill will be seen. I don't think I worded that last part correctly but I think my message still comes across.

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I am just trying to bridge the gap between 'us and them', times are changing and I don't see why you wouldn't want new people to discover freestyle. Even if they get bored of it after 2 weeks.
3. I had to quote this part as this is my biggest problem. The gap between us and them should always be there. To be associated with the people who don't have any form of will power and dedicated to what they love yet they get to call themselves freestylers? I don't understand how any freestyler could be happy with this. Times only changing because it's being fueled to change.

As I mentioned in the beginning of this post, it's not meant to be personal attack. Surely you've had people disagree with your opinion/values etc before? This is just an extreme case.

I just finished watching the second video that you claim is for both freestylers and non freestylers. Bullshit. Not saying I didn't enjoy it, but that's definitely not catering to freestylers just because you showed the difficult or best parts of a battle. Eurobac battles, Skora's poorly edited videos, 20 second videos involving 1 move with super slow mo, Come my lady, come come, my lady..those are videos for freestylers by freestylers without even giving a shit about non-freestylers. To say this is a hybrid complete crap. Short cut offs are for those that don't have the attention span to watch a 20 second clip without being distracted or bored, and I'm pretty sure there weren't any 20+ second clips, because that would make people bored. A FREESTYLE clip for 30 seconds is too boring for people.
You didn't even consider putting the final video in, right? That would've made the casuals bored and freestylers know where to find the vids if they wanted.
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Re: What's the worst thing to happen to the freestyle community?
« Reply #25 on: Aug 07, 2013, 03:56: AM »
Thank you, Jason!

LIS, it's a highlight video so no the full final battle wasn't in it. If you check my channel you'll see all the routines and battles from the event uploaded in their entirety. I spent the entire weekend filming, writing and interviewing to show freestyle in the best possible light. If you visit my website http://www.learn2freestyle.com you will see written articles and news as well.

Honestly I don't know what else I could do to not be the worst thing that happened in freestyle. It seems to be a case of do nothing and you won't be criticised.

I'm going to remove my account here because it's pretty upsetting to be treated and talked about as someone who is trying to ruin freestyle rather than someone who is trying to grow it and give people the recognition they deserve. Sorry if you feel that way but there is nothing I can do.

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Re: What's the worst thing to happen to the freestyle community?
« Reply #26 on: Aug 07, 2013, 03:59: AM »
Forgot to add I wish everyone the best with their freestyle and hopefully see you in Prague next week. Peace!

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Re: What's the worst thing to happen to the freestyle community?
« Reply #27 on: Aug 07, 2013, 04:02: AM »
At least post a rebuttal to why you think the exact opposite of me. I took the time and wrote it out so it would be easy to reply to as well.

Forgot to add I wish everyone the best with their freestyle and hopefully see you in Prague next week. Peace!
Well that wasn't very courteous. I replied right now because I saw that you were on..it 3am over here but I thought it would be rude not to reply to your post.
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Re: What's the worst thing to happen to the freestyle community?
« Reply #28 on: Aug 07, 2013, 04:13: AM »
LIS- You need to be have more acceptance of noobs. :grin:
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Re: What's the worst thing to happen to the freestyle community?
« Reply #29 on: Aug 07, 2013, 04:21: AM »
LIS- You need to be have more acceptance of casuals. :grin:
FTFY..and no! The wreck everything that's good and dilute it.
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Re: What's the worst thing to happen to the freestyle community?
« Reply #30 on: Aug 09, 2013, 05:35: AM »
FTFY..and no! The wreck everything that's good and dilute it.

I disagree. There is more than enough retardation among non-noob freestylers to go around. Some noob stupidity won't hurt much, and it's more understandable.

Anyways, everyone starts out a noob. I really don't see the problem. Every big forum has noobs on the site. Most people bitch about them, but they will eventually start contributing more to the forum.
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Re: What's the worst thing to happen to the freestyle community?
« Reply #31 on: Aug 26, 2013, 02:44: AM »
Just checked the L2F forum and it's completely dead as well.

Shame we don't have an active freestyle forum anymore.  I think it's mainly due to top freestylers leaving the forum scene.  I'm still surprised the new freestylers aren't coming on board.
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Re: What's the worst thing to happen to the freestyle community?
« Reply #32 on: Aug 27, 2013, 02:48: AM »
man i miss forum action !  I guess alot of people check vids on facebook now , but still forums are better for discussions.

Btw i love the new homepage for vids !
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Re: What's the worst thing to happen to the freestyle community?
« Reply #33 on: Aug 27, 2013, 07:14: AM »
Thank you!  It's updated frequently.  Hopefully, people bookmark it and frequently visit. :13:
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Re: What's the worst thing to happen to the freestyle community?
« Reply #34 on: Aug 30, 2013, 07:21: AM »
this sort of posts!! haha JK
Just doing some posts here..

IMO the worst thing is this "real freestyle" SHIT!

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Re: What's the worst thing to happen to the freestyle community?
« Reply #35 on: Sep 01, 2013, 12:21: PM »
this sort of posts!! haha JK
Just doing some posts here..

IMO the worst thing is this "real freestyle" SHIT!

I'm happy being fake freestyle with you bro. :great:
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