Bad Self-Defense Videos and Techniques

[redsforlife]

So, I've noticed that 9/10 self-defense videos on youtube are absolute garbage. Most of them will actually get you hurt if you follow their instruction. 1st video I will share is a joke, but they are using some techniques actually taught. lol

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TdxKWvc1fCU


These 2 videos are from a guy that has some martial arts background, but he really is just a top youtuber. Follow his advice, you will get into more fights and being using impractical techniques that if you get wrong, you're fucked.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRvTOyFBMyQ

This video will guarantee you that the bully you just pissed off will sucker punch you and probably kick your ass. Never do this is unless you are very confident you can win this fight. You also have to think about legal issues afterwards which won't favor you if you match him for aggression. In fact, his 1st example which he says is wrong, is closer to being right as he definitely avoided the fight. Also, notice how when he gets aggressive to the other guy, he drops his hands and sticks his chin towards him. This is just asking to be punched right in the jaw. If anything, you should do similar to the 1st scenario, but have both hands up near your face like you are trying to plea for him to stop. You are actually preparing to either block or punch him if he gets overly aggressive. This is a common bouncer technique. If you see a bouncer ever put his hands on his chin when he's talking to you, calm down, he's preparing to punch you.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9ph7uJn0K8

The actual technique in this video is fine. He also executes it fairly well, but it's obviously a simulated demonstration. The other guy is allowing him to execute the technique. I don't really know for sure whether he can pull it off in a real situation.

Now, for why this is bad. 99.999999% of youtubers that will watch this video have 0 martial arts experience. Attempting any self-defense technique without real training is extremely risky. The biggest problems with this technique is if you get this wrong, you will most likely be pulling your opponent on top of you for them to just ground and pound the shit out of you. Also, any self-defense technique where you are falling to your back is pretty dumb. In sport fights, you are on a padded mat, so it doesn't hurt much. In real life, it could  be concrete, rocks, or any other hazardous surface to fall on. You could be inflicting significant damage to yourself. It's completely impractical in a self-defense situation.


The reason I'm posting this is I've noticed that the majority of videos of these types on Youtube are completely bogus. I understand it's no different than many other things. Most soccer tutorials are terrible too, but the consequences of fucking up a self-defense technique is far worse than a soccer technique. It could cause someone to get seriously hurt or even killed. I personally think that victims that thought these videos were legit should be able to sue the video maker for giving them poor advice.


I may start a good self-defense videos and techniques thread later, but my only real advice is get to a real gym. There is no substitute. Tutorials can be a good reference for ideas, but they are pretty much useless without the real training.

[L_I_S]

Thanks for your insight, I may try that last one with a mate when he tries to play fight..
What's your opinion on parry vs block? My mate was showing me some stuff about Kenpo 5.0 and he said it's almost all parries.

[redsforlife]

Thanks for your insight, I may try that last one with a mate when he tries to play fight..
What's your opinion on parry vs block? My mate was showing me some stuff about Kenpo 5.0 and he said it's almost all parries.

The first one does work sometimes in Judo, but it's very difficult to pull off. You don't even see it in sport Judo that often, yet any other type of fight. If I was the other guy, as soon as he dips down to begin the move, I'd knee him in the head. I doubt the technique would work after that. Also, bullies tend to pick on people they think are weak, usually smaller people. Imagine trying that on someone that greatly outweighs you. You'll just be on your back and they'll decide whether they want to stand over you or fall on top of yo.

As for parry or block, there is a time and a place for both. Neither are technically wrong or right, it just depends on the situation. What I will say is no martial art is genuinely complete. The best martial art is a combination of many martial arts. Most professional fighters use aspects of many styles.

I don't know your friend, but many traditional martial arts have become a bit watered down where they teach to compete for their own competitions only. This doesn't mean your friend isn't a great martial artist. The most obvious being Tae Kwon Do which  I used to take. You aren't allowed to punch to the head or kick below the  waste in most sport TKD. This causes some obvious bad habits in non-sport TKD fight situations. Also, high kicks are very vulnerable to be taken down. That doesn't mean any art is bad. There are some great things in TKD and any art. TKD has the quickest and most variety of kicks I can think of.

If you really want to learn any martial art, go to a gym and train under experts. It's the only way. I'm currently getting my ass kicked at the MMA gym I go to, but I'm learning greatly.

[Onas]

What do you think of kata (the predetermined moves, usually practised for example in karate)? I heard they are just a waste of time.

[redsforlife]

What do you think of kata (the predetermined moves, usually practised for example in karate)? I heard they are just a waste of time.

It depends. I always hated doing Katas when I took karate and other arts that did that. It felt pointless to me, but it can definitely help you concentrate on learning the techniques properly and how to transition from one thing to another. It's really not too much different from the pad and mitt work I've done in boxing and kickboxing. They give you a specific combo, and you must repeat over and over. It seems mechanical at times, but it will perfect that combo. My advice would be to practice both ways. Learn it in the specific pattern, but also practice in a more realistic manner where you must react and choose your own techniques.

[Adi]

Very informative post.  Thanks Jason!

Can you post a video of something that's useful and pretty spot on?

[redsforlife]

Very informative post.  Thanks Jason!

Can you post a video of something that's useful and pretty spot on?

Should I start a new thread? I don't want people to get confused.

[Onas]

Thanks for your answer. Btw, that do you think of documentaries such as this one?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPx1P67LugE

[redsforlife]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=16S-hsb4lOw&list=UUvVCP9kwCgmlu356ayBoe7Q&index=34

This guy is beyond stupid. If you follow this, you will die. You might as well do  as try his fucking techniques. Holy fuck, how do these retards make this shit.

[L_I_S]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=16S-hsb4lOw&list=UUvVCP9kwCgmlu356ayBoe7Q&index=34

This guy is beyond stupid. If you follow this, you will die. You might as well do  as try his fucking techniques. Holy fuck, how do these retards make this shit.

Everything sounds logical. What did he say that was incorrect?

[redsforlife]

Everything sounds logical. What did he say that was incorrect?

Pretty much everything is wrong. The line, "It's only a flesh wound" is beyond hilarious. Yes, it's only a flesh wound that might cause you to bleed out in a few minutes if you don't receive medical attention.

I'm sure you've accidently cut yourself before right? It hurts. Imagine a large cut across your arms or even a stab into your torso. These are type of injuries that are going to cause the average person to not be able to continue fighting. Now, maybe your most badass people on Earth can survive one or two slashes or stabs, but most people will get cut once and open themselves up for many follow up cuts. Also, in some cases, these "flesh wounds" could cause serious damage. If the slash is to your wrists or neck, you could bleed out with in minutes. If it's a stab to the stomach, it could penetrate into vital organs. These are things that you do not want to even risk in this situation. The other stupid thing is how he acts like if you just attack the attacker he won't do anything. Completely false. If anything, your attacker will be overly confident since he has a knife. Hell, he might even accidently stab or slash you. If someone pulls a knife on the instructor, the instructor will most likely be severely injured as long as the knifed attacker isn't half retarded. In fact, if I was the knifed attacker, I'd want him to attack me aggressively. That just makes it easy for me to stab him.

The talk about controlling the weapon is actually what you should do. Now, I will tell you this is a very difficult task. I'd rather defend against a gun than a knife. The best thing you can do is block the arm with the knife and counter with a strike to your opponent. Immediately after you should try to escape the situation. Fighting someone with a knife when you are unarmed is something you do not want to have to try.

[redsforlife]

Paul Vunak Knife Philosophy

This is a real knife fighting video. This is how you really should think about knife fighting.