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Offline Max

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Combos Nowadays
« on: Mar 05, 2012, 03:22: AM »
Ok i had this on my mind for quite a while so i thought i'd share it:

Lower combos became very boring these days.

That doesnt have anything to do with the '' Oh you are always doing the same you swing your leg around the ball bullshit'', no, this is more about that there are MANY lower freestylers, no matter what level who only do combos which look like this: Hard trick combo hard trick combo hard trick. The combos in between are mostly short, one footed and hesitated. Then after a combo like this the freestyler usually smashes his ball on the ground to show how happy he is ( nothing bad with this i just recognized that many guys have that in common). What is also annoying is that many freestylers only care about 3 revs nowadays, and comboing it a later level. the most common trick doing after a 3 rev combo is ahmatw, becaus eit is very easy. at lower level combos it is cross ahtatw nt cos it is, you might guess also quite easy if you have done it a few times. I know i have also done that and i really dislike it.

I think the main point why this is happening is that many freestylers care too much about the recognition of their level in the community so they try to get that with 3 revs and combos of them. The problem is that most freestylers nowadays dont realize how hard a combo can be if there is no 3 rev in it.

So the purpose of this post is that i would like to watch some combos that are not always the same, a bit more random, maybe creative AND that people stop using atw htw hatw only as a bridge to the next hard trick in their combo.

Some examples how it should be: 

Random cool combos : Thomas

No hesitating between hard tricks: Tom Folan

And last but not least here a video how freestyle looked like in 2009. Master of Airmoves then now and always: Pawel Skora:

Skóra - Beyondfootball Competition 2009 - FINAL

Notive that by this time skora has allready had mastered a wide range of 3 revs but do you see any of the common combos like nowadays in this video? NO! And that is what defines real level for me.

Would like to hear your opinions on this.

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Re: Combos Nowadays
« Reply #1 on: Mar 05, 2012, 03:29: AM »
its really hard to make a name for yourself with something out of the mainstream
and people just want the fame these days.
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Re: Combos Nowadays
« Reply #2 on: Mar 05, 2012, 03:50: AM »
I love topics like this :)
Couldn't agree more on everything you said, i'm starting to get annoyed by the combos of nowadays. Alot of times you can just clearly see what (hard)trick will follow on the combo, and that makes it way less fun to watch.
That's the main reason i like the lowers of Thomas, TF, Metoditos, ... . They're very variated and the weak foot of them is used alot.

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Re: Combos Nowadays
« Reply #3 on: Mar 05, 2012, 04:35: AM »
i love watching hungarian freestyle, their combos are different, like easy tricks combined in a hard combo. For example Mumins newest video

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Re: Combos Nowadays
« Reply #4 on: Mar 05, 2012, 12:43: PM »
I fully agree with you max
combos now are amazingly boring
SKATW - COMBO - AHMATW - COMBO - AHMATW - COMBO - ALATW
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CO AHTATW NT - COMBO - CO AHTATW NT - COMBO - CO AHTATW NT
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EATW - COMBO - AHMATW - COMBO - AHMATW - COMBO - AHMATW
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You see the same COMBO AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN!
This is not like the time of FX, Zegan, Szymo, Skora etc...
they had variation and their combos were thought out
That's why I still believe Skora is KING!
although... his combos NOW are a bit... repetitive.
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Re: Combos Nowadays
« Reply #5 on: Mar 05, 2012, 12:59: PM »
Wrote a whole essay but decided to delete it, just gonna say that I don't believe in this because fsers put hours into training and instead of appreciating, you guys are writing this stuff about it! I don't understand that..how can they get repetitive?

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Re: Combos Nowadays
« Reply #6 on: Mar 05, 2012, 02:55: PM »
i think only those who have seen the era till upto 2008/2009 can feel this way.
maybe the guys now dont even know if they are doing anything wrong( well wrong= bored/mindless stuff in our opinion)
i also wonder if they look up old videos and know about the history. i am also interested to know what they think about older videos.
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Re: Combos Nowadays
« Reply #7 on: Mar 05, 2012, 10:41: PM »
@Sam: well the more a sport grows the harder it usually gets to get the attention of the scene. For example why would i watch a skatw combo ahmatw by a freestyler who isnt a friend when this combo has been done 100 times more beautiful before? Furthermore freestylers think that 3revs are the hardest in freestyle which is bullshit. Try hard nt combos or nts after hard alternative tricks like abatw and you will see that this is harder. Also to do both feet and longer combos between hard tricks is harder than you think. Look for example at anyOne, he is doing at least 15 tricks after a 3 rev before doing the next hard trick.  This is also much harder but people dont see that nowadays. nowadays everything that counts is skatw combo ahmatw no matter how many tricks are between the skatw and the ahmatw or if they were bot feeted.
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Re: Combos Nowadays
« Reply #8 on: Mar 06, 2012, 01:47: AM »
I totally get you Max!! I'm not saying that I'm not enjoying hardcore combos, cause I do!! But I miss especially the old fx and rocco style!!!! Loved the combos with tatw-hmatw-amatw tatw-ahmatw combo.....


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Re: Combos Nowadays
« Reply #9 on: Mar 06, 2012, 02:19: AM »
i watched some old rocco videos recently, i find combos with mutliple 2rev tricks much cooler to watch, those have much more flow than skatw-combo-skatw. It's sad that tricks like hmatw, (beck) palle trick, magellan etc are so rarely seen in combos nowadays.

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Re: Combos Nowadays
« Reply #10 on: Mar 06, 2012, 02:35: AM »
Amen.

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Re: Combos Nowadays
« Reply #11 on: Mar 08, 2012, 02:54: AM »
Totally agree with your post, especially with the following:
I think the main point why this is happening is that many freestylers care too much about the recognition of their level in the community so they try to get that with 3 revs and combos of them. The problem is that most freestylers nowadays dont realize how hard a combo can be if there is no 3 rev in it.

I see this quite often, even on a much lower level, where beginners are trying to nail something like TATW AMATW, but can't do a simple 5 move combo...

This is why I prefer watching stylish Hungarian lowers, like those from Mickey or Jedinho, rather than some random "hardcore" wannabe.
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