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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #156 on: Nov 01, 2010, 08:20: PM »
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interesting
I guess you're going to have to take down all your family pics :grin:
I haven't seen a post from you in a while. Welcome back.

Regarding the 'turn the other cheek' thing. It's not meant to apply to random people that attack you, it's meant to apply to your friends/family etc
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #157 on: Nov 01, 2010, 09:07: PM »
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interesting
I guess you're going to have to take down all your family pics :grin:
I haven't seen a post from you in a while. Welcome back.

Regarding the 'turn the other cheek' thing. It's not meant to apply to random people that attack you, it's meant to apply to your friends/family etc

haha looks like i have too

its good to forgive your friends and family if they wrong you, its even better, but turn the other cheek nah sorry not working for me
but i hope you still understand that you have the right to do what they done to you even if it is friends and family


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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #158 on: Nov 01, 2010, 10:45: PM »
um royal you are allowed to put up family photos!!!!!

there is absouloutly nothing wrong with that

you just cant put up photos or pictures of prophets, this is because it might lead to worshipping the photo's like some people do instead of actually worshipping god.


the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or images.” (Bukhari and Muslim)
The hadeeth of Aisha (may Allaah be pleased with her) who said: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) returned from a journey and I had covered an alcove with a blanket on which there were images. When the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) saw it, he tore it down and said, ‘The people who will be most severely punished on the Day of Resurrection will be those who imitate the creation of Allah.’” (Bukhari and Muslim)
The hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) who said: the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Jibreel came to me and said: ‘I came to you yesterday and nothing prevented me from entering except that there was a statue by your door, and there was a curtain in your house with images on it, and there was a dog in the house. So tell someone to cut the head off the statue by your door, so it will look like a tree; tell someone to cut up the curtain and make it into floor-cushions that will be stepped on; and tell someone to put the dog outside.’” So the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) did that. (Narrated by Abu Dawood, al-Tirmidhi and Ahmad).
Sa’eed ibn Abi’l-Hasan said: I was with Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) when a man came to him and said, O Abu ‘Abbaas, I am a man who lives by what his hands make, and I make these images. Ibn ‘Abbaas said: I will only tell you what I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say. I heard him say: “Whoever makes an image, Allaah will punish him until he breathes life into it, and he will never be able to do that.” The man became very upset and his face turned pale, so [Ibn ‘Abbaas] said to him, Woe to you! If you insist on making images, then make images of these trees and everything that does not have a soul. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2112; Muslim, 2110)

never believed in Sahih Bukhari/Muslim or the books you narrated from, I am a muslim too and its perfectly good to put up pics in my faith :)
In this way, you cant have a video of yourself on the internet?
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #159 on: Nov 01, 2010, 11:23: PM »
For whom prophet are you talking royal?

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #160 on: Nov 02, 2010, 12:07: AM »
@ tbc: videos are different. you can take pictures of human beings but not to hang them up, keep them as your pc's desktop wallpaper etc... they should not be kept up where you regularly see them. that is the view of the scholars. that's why videos are different.
why don't you believe in Bukhari and muslim? According to the majority of the scholars the Sahih Bukhari is the most authentic book in Islam after the Qur'an. Next in line is Sahih Muslim. These are authentic traditions, sayings, actions etc.. of the Prophet and his Companions.
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Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and beware (of evil): if ye do turn back, know ye that it is Our Messenger’s duty to proclaim (the Message) in the clearest manner. (5: 92).
O ye who believe! obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if ye do believe in Allah and the Last Day: that is best, and most suitable for final determination. (4: 59).
Say: “Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance.(24: 54).
And whoever obeys Allâh and His Messenger, Allâh shall admit him in the Gardens underneath which rivers flow. (4:13)
And whoever obeys Allâh and His Messenger, he has won a great success. (33:71)
And We have sent down unto thee (also) the Message; that thou mayest explain clearly to men what is sent for them, and that they may give thought." [Qur’aan 16:44]
...And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad (sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam)) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it) , and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is severe in punishment." [Qur’aan 59:7]

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #161 on: Nov 02, 2010, 12:18: AM »
@ tbc: videos are different. you can take pictures of human beings but not to hang them up, keep them as your pc's desktop wallpaper etc... they should not be kept up where you regularly see them. that is the view of the scholars. that's why videos are different.
why don't you believe in Bukhari and muslim? According to the majority of the scholars the Sahih Bukhari is the most authentic book in Islam after the Qur'an. Next in line is Sahih Muslim. These are authentic traditions, sayings, actions etc.. of the Prophet and his Companions.

shia..
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #162 on: Nov 02, 2010, 02:07: AM »
lol wut? shia? what.. you think i'm shia???  :lol_hitting:
if i was a shia i wouldn't quote a hadeeth narrated by aisha, now would I? lol. shias hate many of the companions of the prophet and believe that Ali (RA) was supposed to be chosen as the Prophet but Angel Jibreel made a mistake.  :embarrassed: Astaghfirullah...
they use fabricated ahadeeth to prove their opinions. They have their own hadeeth compilers etc...
Not trying to be rude but it seems to me you're not very knowledgeable about sects in Islam.
What would you call yourself then?

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #163 on: Nov 02, 2010, 02:48: AM »
lol wut? shia? what.. you think i'm shia???  :lol_hitting:
if i was a shia i wouldn't quote a hadeeth narrated by aisha, now would I? lol. shias hate many of the companions of the prophet and believe that Ali (RA) was supposed to be chosen as the Prophet but Angel Jibreel made a mistake.  :embarrassed: Astaghfirullah...
they use fabricated ahadeeth to prove their opinions. They have their own hadeeth compilers etc...
Not trying to be rude but it seems to me you're not very knowledgeable about sects in Islam.
What would you call yourself then?
lol i am a shia. and we dont believe those things, i want the thread to stay a general religion thread.
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #164 on: Nov 12, 2010, 01:45: AM »
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"But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads, Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning."

Quran: 22-19-22

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #165 on: Nov 12, 2010, 02:43: AM »
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"But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads, Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning."

Quran: 22-19-22

Religion of peace.

Just found this. I found it a bit funny.
its like the electric chair, it keeps some peace on the street :)
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #166 on: Nov 12, 2010, 03:24: AM »
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"But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads, Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning."

Quran: 22-19-22

Religion of peace.

Just found this. I found it a bit funny.
Well, if we believe in a day of judgement and there is no punishment for those who disobeyed/disbelieved then... why the hell should we pray and ask for forgiveness and pray for paradise....?
Imagine a man has two slaves. One obeys, the other disobeys orders totally. What will be the response of the "master" to the one who disobeyed? "I'm a peaceful man, keep disobeying me. It's okay."
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #167 on: Nov 18, 2010, 08:07: PM »
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"But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads, Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning."

Quran: 22-19-22

Religion of peace.

Just found this. I found it a bit funny.

this is obviously hell and you cant expect good thing to happen in hell do you now?


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