Religion Thread

[Royal Freakiness]

The repayment of a bad action is one equivalent to it. But if someone pardons and puts things right, his reward is with Allah. Certainly He does not love wrongdoers. (Surat Ash-Shura, 40)
those who give in times of both ease and hardship, those who control their rage and pardon other people – Allah loves the good-doers – (Surat Al ‘Imran, 134)
But if someone is steadfast and forgives,that is the most resolute course to follow. (Surat Ash-Shura, 43)

Abu Hurayrah, may Allah be pleased with him, reported that a man said to the Prophet (saws), “Advise me.” He said, “Do not become angry.” The man repeated his request several times, and each time the Prophet (saws) told him, “Do not become angry.”(Reported by al-Bukhari, Fath al-Baaree, 10/456)
The Messenger of Allah (saws) said: “The strong man is not the one who can overpower others (in wrestling); rather, the strong man is the one who controls himself when he gets angry.” (Reported by Ahmad, 2/236; the hadeeth is agreed upon)
The righteous (al-muttaqoon) are those praised by Allah in the Qur'an and by His Messenger (saws). Paradise as wide as heaven and earth has been prepared for them. One of their characteristics is that they (interpretation of the meaning) “spend (in Allah's Cause) in prosperity and in adversity, [they] repress anger, and [they] pardon men; verily, Allah loves al-muhsinoon (the good-doers).” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:134]
These are the ones whose good character and beautiful attributes and deeds Allaah has mentioned, and whom people admire and want to emulate. One of their characteristics is that (interpretation of the meaning) “. . . when they are angry, they forgive.” [al-Shooraa 42:47]

suit yourself, if you think fs is more important than your inner self then it's up to you.

[tbc]

i thought you were a christian  
what are you if you're not a christian?
it has stories, but it also has scientific facts which none before that could have known about. it's mostly direct teachings and warnings etc... like while telling the story Allah turns to the reader and teaches him something, not just stories. you should try and read on it. also, watch the videos i posted...  

Agnostice theist.
Hmm that's cool. I remember hearing that in Islam, instead of turn the other cheek[like the bible teaches], it's eye for an eye. Isn't that somewhat vengeful behaviour? I think this is quite a bad thing to teach kids that you shouldn't forgive and forget. Assuming that what I've heard was true.
I can't watch them, I have very limited bandwidth allowance, and no offence but I'd much rather save it for freestyle videos ;)

In the Quran, the stories are there from Adam , Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Joseph, Jacob, Moses, Jesus, Job etc, many are mentioned. Stories are similar but all of these are presented more modestly.
About the eye for an eye thing. When the companion of the Prophet called Ali was assassinated, he was struck by a sword, he was a ruler and before dying he ordered that the murderer should be struck with the same amount of force in the same manner, if he survives they should let him go. In a quote from the Prophet it says something like"It is better to forgive but not forbidden to give exact amount in return( not more)". Honestly tell me if someone randomly slaps you on the street what would u do?

[L_I_S]

i thought you were a christian 
what are you if you're not a christian?
it has stories, but it also has scientific facts which none before that could have known about. it's mostly direct teachings and warnings etc... like while telling the story Allah turns to the reader and teaches him something, not just stories. you should try and read on it. also, watch the videos i posted... 

Agnostice theist.
Hmm that's cool. I remember hearing that in Islam, instead of turn the other cheek[like the bible teaches], it's eye for an eye. Isn't that somewhat vengeful behaviour? I think this is quite a bad thing to teach kids that you shouldn't forgive and forget. Assuming that what I've heard was true.
I can't watch them, I have very limited bandwidth allowance, and no offence but I'd much rather save it for freestyle videos ;)

In the Quran, the stories are there from Adam , Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Joseph, Jacob, Moses, Jesus, Job etc, many are mentioned. Stories are similar but all of these are presented more modestly.
About the eye for an eye thing. When the companion of the Prophet called Ali was assassinated, he was struck by a sword, he was a ruler and before dying he ordered that the murderer should be struck with the same amount of force in the same manner, if he survives they should let him go. In a quote from the Prophet it says something like"It is better to forgive but not forbidden to give exact amount in return( not more)". Honestly tell me if someone randomly slaps you on the street what would u do?

Turn the other cheek 
Na, I would press charges. But that's not what I meant by that.
What if your good friend insults you in some way? Do you let it go or do you insult him back, maybe hold a grudge?

suit yourself, if you think fs is more important than your inner self then it's up to you.

What are you talking about?
I don't feel the need to learn the Islamic teachings and I already believe that some form of God exists. And you've answerd my questions. Why would I need to watch the videos you're posting?

[tbc]

i thought you were a christian  
what are you if you're not a christian?
it has stories, but it also has scientific facts which none before that could have known about. it's mostly direct teachings and warnings etc... like while telling the story Allah turns to the reader and teaches him something, not just stories. you should try and read on it. also, watch the videos i posted...  

Agnostice theist.
Hmm that's cool. I remember hearing that in Islam, instead of turn the other cheek[like the bible teaches], it's eye for an eye. Isn't that somewhat vengeful behaviour? I think this is quite a bad thing to teach kids that you shouldn't forgive and forget. Assuming that what I've heard was true.
I can't watch them, I have very limited bandwidth allowance, and no offence but I'd much rather save it for freestyle videos ;)

In the Quran, the stories are there from Adam , Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Joseph, Jacob, Moses, Jesus, Job etc, many are mentioned. Stories are similar but all of these are presented more modestly.
About the eye for an eye thing. When the companion of the Prophet called Ali was assassinated, he was struck by a sword, he was a ruler and before dying he ordered that the murderer should be struck with the same amount of force in the same manner, if he survives they should let him go. In a quote from the Prophet it says something like"It is better to forgive but not forbidden to give exact amount in return( not more)". Honestly tell me if someone randomly slaps you on the street what would u do?

Turn the other cheek  
Na, I would press charges. But that's not what I meant by that.
What if your good friend insults you in some way? Do you let it go or do you insult him back, maybe hold a grudge?

Good answer yea ideally the matter is taken to an islamic court. where u can decide to slap him back or forgive, its your choice. i want to say this is applied only to physical harm and not to insults and bad language. have a good day haha. bad example sorry i never wish you to be slapped

[L_I_S]

Slap him back or forgive? I'd rather take his money 

I just read this from a user on youtube..it blew my mind.
"there are many muslim families that have pictures of jesus and st. mary.I am muslim and i have many pictures of jesus and st. mary at home.

Muslims also believe in jesus and st. mary."

...Explain!

[Royal Freakiness]

lol who is that?
we're not even allowed to put up pictures of human beings or other living creatures on our walls, let alone pictures of jesus and st. mary 
yes we believe in Jesus (known in arabic as Eesa) and Mary (known in arabic as Maryam)
but not as the christians do. Jesus (peace be upon him) was a prophet and Maryam was his mother.
we don't call anyone saint.
As I said before, there are a lot of ignorant muslims around the world. There are much more ignorant muslims out there than people who know about their own religion, Islam.

[L_I_S]

lol it was some chick on youtube. Arabchick or something like that.
I had a feeling that it was bullshit..

we're not even allowed to put up pictures of human beings or other living creatures on our walls

Not even family photos?

[tbc]

Jesus is considered a prophet  in Islam. Born without a biological father as a miracle from God. He could turn dead people alive. such things made people think of him as God later. Mary his mother is considered one of the 4 greatest women.

@Royal : do u follow any particular sect? u sound hardcore lol

[Royal Freakiness]

@LIS
yes, not even family photos. there are many reasons for that, I'll try to look into it and answer later

@tbc
I try to follow the sect of "What Allah and His Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said" sect. 
I try to follow the Qur'an, the Sunnah, and the rightly guided caliphs and the followers of the rightly guided companions.
I hope I'm on the right path/sect, only Allah can judge me and the other ppl of other sects.

[moby]

um royal you are allowed to put up family photos!!!!!

there is absouloutly nothing wrong with that

you just cant put up photos or pictures of prophets, this is because it might lead to worshipping the photo's like some people do instead of actually worshipping god.

and about the eye for and eye thing
its common sense. if someone injured you in some INTENTIONALLY you are allowed to do the same to them, BUT forgivness is better for you.
and about turn the other cheek, i dont believe in that and i have not met a man in my life that believes in that. if some cocky kid comes up to you and starts bullying you, you WILL hit them back, and you do have a right to do that

[Royal Freakiness]

um royal you are allowed to put up family photos!!!!!

there is absouloutly nothing wrong with that

you just cant put up photos or pictures of prophets, this is because it might lead to worshipping the photo's like some people do instead of actually worshipping god.

the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or images.” (Bukhari and Muslim)
The hadeeth of Aisha (may Allaah be pleased with her) who said: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) returned from a journey and I had covered an alcove with a blanket on which there were images. When the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) saw it, he tore it down and said, ‘The people who will be most severely punished on the Day of Resurrection will be those who imitate the creation of Allah.’” (Bukhari and Muslim)
The hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) who said: the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Jibreel came to me and said: ‘I came to you yesterday and nothing prevented me from entering except that there was a statue by your door, and there was a curtain in your house with images on it, and there was a dog in the house. So tell someone to cut the head off the statue by your door, so it will look like a tree; tell someone to cut up the curtain and make it into floor-cushions that will be stepped on; and tell someone to put the dog outside.’” So the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) did that. (Narrated by Abu Dawood, al-Tirmidhi and Ahmad).
Sa’eed ibn Abi’l-Hasan said: I was with Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) when a man came to him and said, O Abu ‘Abbaas, I am a man who lives by what his hands make, and I make these images. Ibn ‘Abbaas said: I will only tell you what I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say. I heard him say: “Whoever makes an image, Allaah will punish him until he breathes life into it, and he will never be able to do that.” The man became very upset and his face turned pale, so [Ibn ‘Abbaas] said to him, Woe to you! If you insist on making images, then make images of these trees and everything that does not have a soul. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2112; Muslim, 2110)

[moby]

 

interesting