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Re: Ramadan
« Reply #84 on: Aug 27, 2009, 10:31: AM »
Understood.




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Re: Ramadan
« Reply #85 on: Aug 27, 2009, 06:07: PM »
well i know a girl suspect here lying being  muslim.
she is from pakistan an she says she is sunni. i ask here about here religion and what the koran says. she says she is not read it and knows much about it. well i say how can you say you are muslim when you dont know about the history. she say she belive in allah, yet i never seen here pray, wich she claims. i seen here smoke, and she says she wants to do ramadan. she cant explain diffrences between shia and sunni, and still claims to belive. she she say its gone through generations being muslim and thats why she claims the faith.
what makes you a muslim?
is it to say you belive or knowing why you belive?
for me it is more about knowing the history and from there making the belive in god, rather just claim being a muslim whenever you feel like it bcouse of herritage.
it's kinda irritating me that she claims being, but not knowing why she belives,history and so on.. for me she should know litlebit more than allah and profet to calle oneself muslim..thoughts?
Intention is stronger than action but it doesn't seem sincere (from the story your telling)
But like Omar said only god can judge
Cause intentions aren't visible to the human eye

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Re: Ramadan
« Reply #86 on: Aug 27, 2009, 07:26: PM »
well i know a girl suspect here lying being  muslim.
she is from pakistan an she says she is sunni. i ask here about here religion and what the koran says. she says she is not read it and knows much about it. well i say how can you say you are muslim when you dont know about the history. she say she belive in allah, yet i never seen here pray, wich she claims. i seen here smoke, and she says she wants to do ramadan. she cant explain diffrences between shia and sunni, and still claims to belive. she she say its gone through generations being muslim and thats why she claims the faith.
what makes you a muslim?
is it to say you belive or knowing why you belive?
for me it is more about knowing the history and from there making the belive in god, rather just claim being a muslim whenever you feel like it bcouse of herritage.
it's kinda irritating me that she claims being, but not knowing why she belives,history and so on.. for me she should know litlebit more than allah and profet to calle oneself muslim..thoughts?
When applying Islamic Laws(the shariah) she will be considered a muslim, for example the matters of property, marriage etc.
But if you are asking if her claim is enough to please Allah, that is a totally different thing and her chance of  making it to heaven or hell is equal to any other muslim. lol i had no idea shia/sunni would come up on this forum(turns up everywhere), i too am a pakistani and religion is a very cultural thing as 98% are muslims here. and as far as knowledge is concerned, you are right, majority of muslims call themselves muslims because of there little knowledge. No big deal..its the sad truth.(not counting myself out)

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Re: Ramadan
« Reply #87 on: Aug 27, 2009, 10:19: PM »
well i know a girl suspect here lying being  muslim.
she is from pakistan an she says she is sunni. i ask here about here religion and what the koran says. she says she is not read it and knows much about it. well i say how can you say you are muslim when you dont know about the history. she say she belive in allah, yet i never seen here pray, wich she claims. i seen here smoke, and she says she wants to do ramadan. she cant explain diffrences between shia and sunni, and still claims to belive. she she say its gone through generations being muslim and thats why she claims the faith.
what makes you a muslim?
is it to say you belive or knowing why you belive?
for me it is more about knowing the history and from there making the belive in god, rather just claim being a muslim whenever you feel like it bcouse of herritage.
it's kinda irritating me that she claims being, but not knowing why she belives,history and so on.. for me she should know litlebit more than allah and profet to calle oneself muslim..thoughts?
Well here is the thing about the Muslims nowadays
there are 1.6 billion muslims around the world supposedly
but how many of them actually represent Islam?  :dontknow:
the problem is there are a lot of sects out there
some extremists and some opposite of extreme like that girl lol
but as we said only God can judge
Intention is higher than action, but you must represent your intention with your actions
there can't be intention and no action
that's one of the wrong sects of Islam. they say it's enough to believe. if you believe you can sin as much as possible, as long as you believe... lol

anyways, Ramadan seems easy nowadays  :biggrin:
I'm trying to freestyle everyday
all I can say is, I've seriously lost my touch  :down:
and my leg quickness is like that of azun 4 years ago and I'm 20 cm shorter than him  :angry:

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Re: Ramadan
« Reply #88 on: Aug 27, 2009, 10:43: PM »
What if you're wrong about god and you end up going through all this stuff for nothing?
Do you do it because you think god wants you to or do you do it because it makes you feel good?
Also in what way do you picture heaven, is it like a paradise were you live forever?

The reason i'm asking is because i'm really interested in religion. I'm an athiest though but I respect and understand why people would believe in religion, though in my eyes god and heaven doesn't make any sense what so ever to me.

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Re: Ramadan
« Reply #89 on: Aug 27, 2009, 11:11: PM »
What if you're wrong about god and you end up going through all this stuff for nothing?
Do you do it because you think god wants you to or do you do it because it makes you feel good?
Also in what way do you picture heaven, is it like a paradise were you live forever?

The reason i'm asking is because i'm really interested in religion. I'm an athiest though but I respect and understand why people would believe in religion, though in my eyes god and heaven doesn't make any sense what so ever to me.

With all the facts and signs Allah has given us, no one should doubt their belief in God. If there is this doubt, then your faith is weak. there is no place for doubt in the belief in God in Islam.  ;) We also believe because if we don't, there isn't really any purpose for living innit? all of us instead should just do suicide since there isn't a purpose for living. Our purpose is to please Allah and enter paradise  :thumbsup:
We do it because God wants us to do it and we do it so we don't get punished and enter paradise. Allah says this world is just a test to see who are the true inheritors of heaven
we can't really picture paradise since God tells us it's nothing like this world. although there are some signs in the Quran. The main thing is, you'll live forever there without aging and without sweating or going to the bathroom and whatever you want it'll appear in front of you.
here is a beautiful hadith of the Prophet about the last man to enter paradise insha Allah


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Re: Ramadan
« Reply #90 on: Aug 27, 2009, 11:30: PM »
I see, but don't you think living forever would get a bit boring in the end? Even if you never have to struggle for anything and get everything exactly as you want, imo it would get extremely boring. After being alive for one billion years in the paradise, done exactly everything that you can do it would be like.. no fun because if you never have to work for it, it defeats the purpose of having it all. Half of the fun for me of achieving something good like freestyle for example, is the road towards it. But yeah I understand that you're trying to achieve the paradise through doing these tasks now in real life :).

If you live forever were you can achieve everything you ever wanted, what more would there be to achieve? Since everyone lives perfect lives in the "paradise" there would neither be anyone to look up at since everyone are the same and can get what they want.

Kind of like celebrities that have so much money and they don't know what to do with it. So they start going on drugs because drugs causes your brain to give you satisfaction.

It's just what i think, for me I would never want to live in a world were anyone can get everything without any effort.

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Re: Ramadan
« Reply #91 on: Aug 28, 2009, 12:16: AM »
I don't understand how life on earth is satisfying enough.

Well Royal must have a problem, seeing as he's constantly searching for hot babes on the internet to jack off to. Normal, happy people would seek IRL babes.

Lol at even having to say IRL babes.

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Re: Ramadan
« Reply #92 on: Aug 28, 2009, 02:29: AM »
is Ramadan supposed to be a way of proving faith to allah?

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Re: Ramadan
« Reply #93 on: Aug 28, 2009, 04:02: AM »
I don't understand how life on earth is satisfying enough.

Well Royal must have a problem, seeing as he's constantly searching for hot babes on the internet to jack off to. Normal, happy people would seek IRL babes.

Lol at even having to say IRL babes.
yes I do have a problem
I'm not perfect
I'm not even a good Muslim
I just know things
and a man is a man, and women are some of his desires
only a good muslim can control his desires  :down:
I'm not even supposed to listen to music for God's sake  :down:

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Re: Ramadan
« Reply #94 on: Aug 28, 2009, 04:14: AM »
as for seafc

Allaah legislated fasting for gaining taqwaa, "O you who believe, fasting has been prescribed upon you as it has been prescribed upon those before you, so that you may attain taqwaa." (meaning of SoraatulBaqarah (2):183) Taqwaa in this case means to make a shield between oneself and Allaah’s anger and Hellfire.
also to draw closer to Allah by doing good deeds.
so yes that is what Ramadan is for  :thumbsup:

here are some benefits of Ramadan
http://www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=142

and these are some health benefits of fasting in ramadan
http://www.submission.org/ramadan-health.html

 :cheers:

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Re: Ramadan
« Reply #95 on: Aug 28, 2009, 04:20: AM »
I see, but don't you think living forever would get a bit boring in the end? Even if you never have to struggle for anything and get everything exactly as you want, imo it would get extremely boring. After being alive for one billion years in the paradise, done exactly everything that you can do it would be like.. no fun because if you never have to work for it, it defeats the purpose of having it all. Half of the fun for me of achieving something good like freestyle for example, is the road towards it. But yeah I understand that you're trying to achieve the paradise through doing these tasks now in real life :).

If you live forever were you can achieve everything you ever wanted, what more would there be to achieve? Since everyone lives perfect lives in the "paradise" there would neither be anyone to look up at since everyone are the same and can get what they want.

Kind of like celebrities that have so much money and they don't know what to do with it. So they start going on drugs because drugs causes your brain to give you satisfaction.

It's just what i think, for me I would never want to live in a world were anyone can get everything without any effort.
If life in this world was anything in comparison to heaven, then yes it would be tooooooo boring
but like I said, it's a totally different place, the stuff there are supposedly unimaginable
seriously speaking, I think most ppl if not all would desire a place with peace and no one to bother them and just relax, instead of work in the city or farms.
well, there would be more to do than just relax at paradise :)