The best improvements

[DJK]

well then its a pity freestyle isnt about rushing just to nail hard tricks, while neglecting nearly every other area

omg, Anyone's and German's styles are much more better and cleaner than almost everyone's here...

German has good style i know that  :rockit:

[Max]

Dunno where you find 'the best improvements' in them...

So what are your opinions on that? Share with us!

Anyone (it's nickname), Russia - 11 months - 5 amatw nt, 3 ahtatw etc.
MP, Russia - 11 months - skatw, eatw etc. (but shitty style)
German, Russia - 1,5 year of freestyle - patw, eatw etc.
And ARS ofc.

so then they are good at 1/3 of freestyle..... no upper no stits = not the best improvement

though i have to admit that their lowers are very sick.

[DanTheMan]

Yep German defo has a great style.. And yep, as Max said, then they are good at 1/3 of freestyle...
Anyway they can do what they want, i dont wanna tell them what to learn, but all im saying is that its not all about rushing yourself to learn tricks like eatw if you cant do a sideheadstall

[Mikael]

Dunno where you find 'the best improvements' in them...

So what are your opinions on that? Share with us!

Anyone (it's nickname), Russia - 11 months - 5 amatw nt, 3 ahtatw etc.
MP, Russia - 11 months - skatw, eatw etc. (but shitty style)
German, Russia - 1,5 year of freestyle - patw, eatw etc.
And ARS ofc.

so then they are good at 1/3 of freestyle..... no upper no stits = not the best improvement

though i have to admit that their lowers are very sick.

Actually, yes. I have watched many Russians. 90% of them have shitty styles and can't do shit besides lowers.
P.S. It's 1/4 of freestyle. Grounds and akkas really hard to get good at.

[DanTheMan]

and if you add good LPs as freestyle then its 1/5

[oLi]

If they wanted to learn side headstall they would've done it in 1 day, definately. Anyone that can learn 5 amatw within 11 months will learn  side headstall in 1 day

[Azun]

done it or master a trick is a huge difference.

just because you can make a trick fast for the first time, doesnt mean you have learn it...

almost everyone can manage to put the ball on the side of the head after one day ;) doesnt mean you can do sideheadstall hehe

freestyle is not just about vidoes, its also about what you can show live or when you meet someone...

really hard to know who improove the most just by looking at vidoes.
these days i would say dan from irland... verry quick learner with great style and controll.

and one more thing, if you have freestyle for 5 years its verry hard to improove. so people should not forget the "old" guys that still learning tricks ;)

[Leha]

Anyone can do smth about 80 eyestalls, for example, and sits (smth about 20 htws for example),
German can do some uppers, not bad uppers,
Dunno about MP,
About ARS you know by urselves.
And German and Anyone is the most consistant fsers (especially German) I've ever seen...

[anhkhoashevakt]

Anyone can do smth about 80 eyestalls, for example, and sits (smth about 20 htws for example),
German can do some uppers, not bad uppers,
Dunno about MP,
About ARS you know by urselves.
And German and Anyone is the most consistant fsers (especially German) I've ever seen...

Let me ask you some little questions, I just curious nothing more...
Have any of you guys done any public LPs solo?
If yes, what tricks did you do?
How do you transition from lowers -> sits, or sits to lowers or sits to uppers?
How many percent of tricks that you do can you use in a live performance?

If they wanted to learn side headstall they would've done it in 1 day, definately. Anyone that can learn 5 amatw within 11 months will learn  side headstall in 1 day

I'm not sure about that. And btw you talk as if lowers is the hardest to learn in all freestyle. It is also up to THE PHYSICAL CONDITIONS of the freestylers practicing it. Do you know why many Polish can do hardcore combos, while only some minority of Asians can? Because the Polish and anyone from Eastern Europe have very fast legs, and powerful ones (i.e. Skora) that allows them to learn hardcore lower combos really fast. The Asian guys are not that fortunate.
But in the end, it mostly come down to doing what you want. Freestyle is about expressing yourself, and people have a variety of epressing themselves. If every freestyler is a hardcore combo guy or a creative trick guy it both becomes really boring. Variety is what ensure everything to process forward. It is also what makes freestyle beautiful (and yes, IMO, freestyle shouldn't be just chasing hard tricks and forget to express your true self. Many people (I won't mention the name) say that if you do anything different  from hardcore nts, new Sh!ts and AHMATWs combos you're not a freestyler and being a circus player etc... OK, I'd rather be a circus player, and it's not that bad either, if that's the way that I must express myself!!!!).
Respect all style man... and yes, I'm really doubt if one can learn sideheadstall in one day.   

[Max]

well i watched the videos of the russian lp comp and they were boring as hell. okay you are very sick atw hardcroe lowers....(saw 4 latw and skora atw and 3 amatw nt or something) but your sits and upper and especially the transitions between them are totally crap. it takes very long to become good (not average i mean good) at sits. also originality is an important factor of a freestyler.

but in case of hardcore lower you are right leha and oli.... the russians are the fastest improvers.

[Leha]

Topic name is 'The best improvements', I've mentioned here those fsers who are really have much more hugh improvement than you told about...
If you find some fser with at least 3 amatws nt and who is perfect LP'er, I ofc will put him before fsers about those I've mentioned...

If they wanted to learn side headstall they would've done it in 1 day, definately. Anyone that can learn 5 amatw within 11 months will learn  side headstall in 1 day

I'm not sure about that. And btw you talk as if lowers is the hardest to learn in all freestyle. It is also up to THE PHYSICAL CONDITIONS of the freestylers practicing it. Do you know why many Polish can do hardcore combos, while only some minority of Asians can? Because the Polish and anyone from Eastern Europe have very fast legs, and powerful ones (i.e. Skora) that allows them to learn hardcore lower combos really fast. The Asian guys are not that fortunate.
But in the end, it mostly come down to doing what you want. Freestyle is about expressing yourself, and people have a variety of epressing themselves. If every freestyler is a hardcore combo guy or a creative trick guy it both becomes really boring. Variety is what ensure everything to process forward. It is also what makes freestyle beautiful (and yes, IMO, freestyle shouldn't be just chasing hard tricks and forget to express your true self. Many people (I won't mention the name) say that if you do anything different  from hardcore nts, new Sh!ts and AHMATWs combos you're not a freestyler and being a circus player etc... OK, I'd rather be a circus player, and it's not that bad either, if that's the way that I must express myself!!!!).
Respect all style man... and yes, I'm really doubt if one can learn sideheadstall in one day.   

Don't find any explanations why some are better in smth, and some are worse. Look at Yosuke, he has very fast legs, maybe the fastest in freestyle community, you can find someome in Eastern Europe who has slow legs.
Everyone can learn what he wants, everyone has all abilities in all kind of sports, but ofc in different amount...

If you are as creative as Michryc, as good at doing sds as Nazim or Filip, and as good in uppers as Weird (only), or if you are great allrounder but not have any style at its best - all say that you are great fser...

[numberten]

[Do you know why many Polish can do hardcore combos, while only some minority of Asians can? Because the Polish and anyone from Eastern Europe have very fast legs, and powerful ones (i.e. Skora) that allows them to learn hardcore lower combos really fast. The Asian guys are not that fortunate.
 

I don't buy that.  Skora always gets hated on because of his massive thighs  :biggrin:.

He's worked his arse off too mate, and plenty examples of skinnier guys that are ridiculous fstylers as well.  Yes maybe the strength of Skora helps him a bit for the long and difficult combos but it belittles him and the other lads to say it's down to their strength, they've put in a lot of work as well.  Plus you build strength the more you do it, doesn't matter what ethnicity you are really. I know Asians who are really strong and powerful, they are not freestylers, but you get what I'm saying.