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Leha

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Re: The best improvements
« Reply #84 on: Jun 24, 2009, 01:20: AM »
Dunno where you find 'the best improvements' in them...

So what are your opinions on that? Share with us!
Anyone (it's nickname), Russia - 11 months - 5 amatw nt, 3 ahtatw etc.
MP, Russia - 11 months - skatw, eatw etc. (but shitty style)
German, Russia - 1,5 year of freestyle - patw, eatw etc.
And ARS ofc.

so then they are good at 1/3 of freestyle..... no upper no stits = not the best improvement

though i have to admit that their lowers are very sick.

Actually, yes. I have watched many Russians. 90% of them have shitty styles and can't do shit besides lowers.
P.S. It's 1/4 of freestyle. Grounds and akkas really hard to get good at.
It's great that you aren't russian, less fsers here have shitty style then...

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Re: The best improvements
« Reply #85 on: Jun 24, 2009, 01:21: AM »
Topic name is 'The best improvements', I've mentioned here those fsers who are really have much more hugh improvement than you told about...
If you find some fser with at least 3 amatws nt and who is perfect LP'er, I ofc will put him before fsers about those I've mentioned...
If they wanted to learn side headstall they would've done it in 1 day, definately. Anyone that can learn 5 amatw within 11 months will learn  side headstall in 1 day

I'm not sure about that. And btw you talk as if lowers is the hardest to learn in all freestyle. It is also up to THE PHYSICAL CONDITIONS of the freestylers practicing it. Do you know why many Polish can do hardcore combos, while only some minority of Asians can? Because the Polish and anyone from Eastern Europe have very fast legs, and powerful ones (i.e. Skora) that allows them to learn hardcore lower combos really fast. The Asian guys are not that fortunate.
But in the end, it mostly come down to doing what you want. Freestyle is about expressing yourself, and people have a variety of epressing themselves. If every freestyler is a hardcore combo guy or a creative trick guy it both becomes really boring. Variety is what ensure everything to process forward. It is also what makes freestyle beautiful (and yes, IMO, freestyle shouldn't be just chasing hard tricks and forget to express your true self. Many people (I won't mention the name) say that if you do anything different  from hardcore nts, new Sh!ts and AHMATWs combos you're not a freestyler and being a circus player etc... OK, I'd rather be a circus player, and it's not that bad either, if that's the way that I must express myself!!!!).
Respect all style man... and yes, I'm really doubt if one can learn sideheadstall in one day.   
Don't find any explanations why some are better in smth, and some are worse. Look at Yosuke, he has very fast legs, maybe the fastest in freestyle community, you can find someome in Eastern Europe who has slow legs.
Everyone can learn what he wants, everyone has all abilities in all kind of sports, but ofc in different amount...

If you are as creative as Michryc, as good at doing sds as Nazim or Filip, and as good in uppers as Weird (only), or if you are great allrounder but not have any style at its best - all say that you are great fser...

I'm talking about THE MAJORITY, not every single person. Of course if single personwise there will be deviations, but the truth is that physical conditions do a lot in determine freestyle type.
 "everyone has all abilities in all kind of sports, but ofc in different amount...". That is alsmost true. I'd say that "everyone has all abilities in anything, but ofc in different amount..." because hardcore stuff and other different stuff are 2 different things... see, even you agree with me at some point.
Whether you want to believe it or not, evidences of my claim are plenty, and if someone do a statistic, THAT will be the result that they'll find out. You can choose to believe or not to, but this is the truth.
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Re: The best improvements
« Reply #86 on: Jun 24, 2009, 01:24: AM »
Topic name is 'The best improvements', I've mentioned here those fsers who are really have much more hugh improvement than you told about...
If you find some fser with at least 3 amatws nt and who is perfect LP'er, I ofc will put him before fsers about those I've mentioned...
If they wanted to learn side headstall they would've done it in 1 day, definately. Anyone that can learn 5 amatw within 11 months will learn  side headstall in 1 day

I'm not sure about that. And btw you talk as if lowers is the hardest to learn in all freestyle. It is also up to THE PHYSICAL CONDITIONS of the freestylers practicing it. Do you know why many Polish can do hardcore combos, while only some minority of Asians can? Because the Polish and anyone from Eastern Europe have very fast legs, and powerful ones (i.e. Skora) that allows them to learn hardcore lower combos really fast. The Asian guys are not that fortunate.
But in the end, it mostly come down to doing what you want. Freestyle is about expressing yourself, and people have a variety of epressing themselves. If every freestyler is a hardcore combo guy or a creative trick guy it both becomes really boring. Variety is what ensure everything to process forward. It is also what makes freestyle beautiful (and yes, IMO, freestyle shouldn't be just chasing hard tricks and forget to express your true self. Many people (I won't mention the name) say that if you do anything different  from hardcore nts, new Sh!ts and AHMATWs combos you're not a freestyler and being a circus player etc... OK, I'd rather be a circus player, and it's not that bad either, if that's the way that I must express myself!!!!).
Respect all style man... and yes, I'm really doubt if one can learn sideheadstall in one day.   
Don't find any explanations why some are better in smth, and some are worse. Look at Yosuke, he has very fast legs, maybe the fastest in freestyle community, you can find someome in Eastern Europe who has slow legs.
Everyone can learn what he wants, everyone has all abilities in all kind of sports, but ofc in different amount...

If you are as creative as Michryc, as good at doing sds as Nazim or Filip, and as good in uppers as Weird (only), or if you are great allrounder but not have any style at its best - all say that you are great fser...

I'm talking about THE MAJORITY, not every single person. Of course if single personwise there will be deviations, but the truth is that physical conditions do a lot in determine freestyle type.
 "everyone has all abilities in all kind of sports, but ofc in different amount...". That is alsmost true. I'd say that "everyone has all abilities in anything, but ofc in different amount..." because hardcore stuff and other different stuff are 2 different things... see, even you agree with me at some point.
Whether you want to believe it or not, evidences of my claim are plenty, and if someone do a statistic, THAT will be the result that they'll find out. You can choose to believe or not to, but this is the truth.

'Because the Polish and anyone from Eastern Europe have very fast legs, and powerful ones (i.e. Skora) that allows them to learn hardcore lower combos really fast. The Asian guys are not that fortunate.'
Not because of this, just because there are some live example in front of them, that's why they have huge wish to learn what they see...

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Re: The best improvements
« Reply #87 on: Jun 24, 2009, 01:26: AM »
mikael has one of the best lower styles!

also its much about what you were able to do before freestyle.... like ars who was able to juggle about 1500 times had much better control than i had because i was only able to get 20 juggles.
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Re: The best improvements
« Reply #88 on: Jun 24, 2009, 01:27: AM »
i dont understand where this is going.. Skora has huge muscles BECAUSE he freestyles... in his old videos he was more skinny.. and from doing huge hard combos his legs have become more muscular.. as is normal.
or i dont know, maybe he goes to the gym as well (im sure oLi can tell us)

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Re: The best improvements
« Reply #89 on: Jun 24, 2009, 01:30: AM »
mikael has one of the best lower styles!

also its much about what you were able to do before freestyle.... like ars who was able to juggle about 1500 times had much better control than i had because i was only able to get 20 juggles.
His atws aren't stylish, if we could see him doing many lowers tricks, and if he would have great style in all (ok, or in almost) of them then we had been able to say 'he has great lower style'...

Yeah, agree :) I could do 10 juggles before freestyle :/
i dont understand where this is going.. Skora has huge muscles BECAUSE he freestyles... in his old videos he was more skinny.. and from doing huge hard combos his legs have become more muscular.. as is normal.
or i dont know, maybe he goes to the gym as well (im sure oLi can tell us)
He has never been there.
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Re: The best improvements
« Reply #90 on: Jun 24, 2009, 03:06: AM »
Dunno where you find 'the best improvements' in them...

So what are your opinions on that? Share with us!
Anyone (it's nickname), Russia - 11 months - 5 amatw nt, 3 ahtatw etc.
MP, Russia - 11 months - skatw, eatw etc. (but shitty style)
German, Russia - 1,5 year of freestyle - patw, eatw etc.
And ARS ofc.

so then they are good at 1/3 of freestyle..... no upper no stits = not the best improvement

though i have to admit that their lowers are very sick.

Actually, yes. I have watched many Russians. 90% of them have shitty styles and can't do shit besides lowers.
P.S. It's 1/4 of freestyle. Grounds and akkas really hard to get good at.

Just a quick note. I found grounds SOOO much easier too learn than i am finding freestyle. I consider myself as an okay grounder.
Keep it Street..

Mikael

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Re: The best improvements
« Reply #91 on: Jun 24, 2009, 04:37: AM »
Ahahahaha, "his atws aren't stylish".
I don't even practice lowers. Only when it comes to filming. Let's compare my lower style to your upper style.  :banana:

Leha

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Re: The best improvements
« Reply #92 on: Jun 24, 2009, 04:38: AM »
Ahahahaha, "his atws aren't stylish".
I don't even practice lowers. Only when it comes to filming. Let's compare my lower style to your upper style.  :banana:
I practice uppers much less than you do lowers, then...

Mikael

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Re: The best improvements
« Reply #93 on: Jun 24, 2009, 04:42: AM »
Ahahahaha, "his atws aren't stylish".
I don't even practice lowers. Only when it comes to filming. Let's compare my lower style to your upper style.  :banana:
I practice uppers much less than you do lowers, then...

Still. I don't practice lowers PERIOD. Only if I'm making a movie or meeting a freestyler(Which is rare).
P.S. You practice lowers a lot, is your style all that great?  :popcorn:

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Re: The best improvements
« Reply #94 on: Jun 24, 2009, 04:46: AM »
Ahahahaha, "his atws aren't stylish".
I don't even practice lowers. Only when it comes to filming. Let's compare my lower style to your upper style.  :banana:
I practice uppers much less than you do lowers, then...

Still. I don't practice lowers PERIOD. Only if I'm making a movie or meeting a freestyler(Which is rare).
P.S. You practice lowers a lot, is your style all that great?  :popcorn:
I don't even pretend on it. I do have no talent as you do :lol:

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Re: The best improvements
« Reply #95 on: Jun 24, 2009, 04:48: AM »
Ahahahaha, "his atws aren't stylish".
I don't even practice lowers. Only when it comes to filming. Let's compare my lower style to your upper style.  :banana:
I practice uppers much less than you do lowers, then...

Still. I don't practice lowers PERIOD. Only if I'm making a movie or meeting a freestyler(Which is rare).
P.S. You practice lowers a lot, is your style all that great?  :popcorn:
I don't even pretend on it. I do have no talent as you do :lol:

Hm... What?  :saywhat: