Combos Nowadays

[Ethan]

yeah i discussed my points with TF after and realised that i slightly misunderstood what you were getting at here...and yeah the more i think about it the more i agree with you! happy to hear to accept i was wrong!

[Max]

 good man, i know you care about variety and i really like that!

i would also really like to see the type of combos tom posted being pushed to the next level. would look incredible!

[pallur]

Yes and no!

Well IMO style matters in this case. For example I really enjoy hardcore combos done with style, like Azun or Rocco. I can watch Rocco 3 rev tricks for days, no matter what if they are "just the same". But probably I'm the one who actually hasn't watched Akims (or any other guy like that) lower videos, people say that they are amazing, but I got bored of them a long time ago. And that goes for combos with a lot of variety too. For me one example would be Thomas, uses a lot of tricks in he's combos, can do a lot of variety (also long nt). I still watch he's one of the oldest videos "Three hours of joy". So combos done with style - I'll watch them, not- not even bothering myself. If the tricks are clean, done smoothly it looks a lot more attractive to me and as far as I'm concerned to other viewers too.

But I  also agree with max that there's not much of variety and stuff like that nowadays, but I think that will change in some point, I'm sure...

Just saying my opinion
pallur

[MauriFs]

yea i completely agree, i am often thinking about the same stuff... and always when i see a new video with some of the "different" hardcore i get really happy, and that's also the reason why for me the old skora videos (like  2007-2009 about that time) are still the best videos, it is just incredible the variety and the ideas of combos, it really is more enjoyable for me...

[Max]

Bump

IMO this started when Ars and later MP started to make fucking hardcore videos, everybody wanted to be as good as them and therefore started practising hardcore stuff. What they didnt realize was that it took MP and Ars training of like 30 hours a week with extreme discipline to achieve that level. For example when european freestylers upload a hard combo they dont care what they do between the hard tricks in a combo. in russia they care, they mostly put at least ten tricks perfectly balanced with both feet between their hard tricks which i find really nice to watch. Furthermore people forgot that MP for example wasnt good at only one three rev trick, but at like every three rev trick. he could do pmatw and ematw combos but at the same time he was able to do skora nt after skmatw which is just crazy and therefore he is for me still by far the best improver.

Another problem is the movement away from freestyle forums. If all freestylers would be on this forum it would be alot easier to educate them and tell them the different levels of difficulty of combos. nowadays you only read on facebook WHOA two skatw in combo you are insane or Skatw combo ahmatw combo ahtatw combo ahmatw was insane. But what happened between the two skatws or the Skatw combo ahmatw? nobody cares about that. If something like that happened here people have always been corrected ( often not in a polite way ) by freestylers like oli. But on facebook thats not possible.

[DanTheMan]

lets bring the forums back!!! SNAPBACKS BACK! i agree with Max.... for my next video I wanna play the combos with barely any "filler" tricks in between, just varied lowers

[alexfs]

totally agree with max

[tbc]

maybe this the evolution stage of lowers. so many people are doing the same combos
skala combo skala
amatw amatw nt combo amatw amatw nt..
something hard combo 2/alt2 rev
Who knows with an understanding might develop which may lead us to better combos
my theory of survival of the fittest combos :P

Max, you watch so many videos, you should probably put your thoughts in a video because this thread will soon die.