i dont train anything else than lowers; only when my hip joint hurts, I train grounds, when Im sick because I was eating something before the training, I train sits and when my legs are all worn out, I train uppers. And it looks like that, not bad in lowers but barely juggling in sits, doing some not too good moves in grounds and about uppers.....I can do headstall a little, sometimes I can catch the ball on my neck and chest. :cheers: