you get the feeling its been done before , because vasek has done this move for like 10 years with a hacky sack 
this is just the beginning ...if you see how fast he improves...scary to realize he will soon nail all his hacky sack moves with a football
but some footbag moves are just actually impossible with a football lol
Vasek doesnt think so;) I was trying to explain him that ball is tooo much bigger than footbag and he is not able to do every move with football but he is still arguing me that it is possible and he will get it soon...
He was also talking about htatw-ahtatw (nt) :saywhat: :saywhat:
u know the guy? ask him 2 do nemisis with a football for me. tell him if he does it ill give him my house and all my belongings, plus ill b his servent for life. ok maybe i went a bit far, but im pretty sure that trick is definetly impossible with a size 5 ball.
the trick is gr8, but it doesnt deserve a name.
1. its not nessesary
2. its been invented alond time a go with a footbag, so y should it be renamed? do we rename all the tricks that lieki does? lieki flare, lieki wall spin etc. no, its stupid.
3. pheonix tricks...
so wats this called in footbag terms?