Skill Level

[Jonathonhehu]

what u say oLi is in terms of lower freestyle combos

sits r easy to learn  :biggrin:
and oli i disagree with u

r u kidding me lowers are WAY more easier to learn thats why u see beginners and everyone who starts off doing lowers and tricks like atw

um........no they are not
out of all 3 things sits r the easiest
the reason that there are less masters of sits is because they get really boring  :lol:

u make it boring because all beginner sitdowner's do is latws atws and shit combos which is stupid, and depends what u meen by easiest, to master??? no. nobody has really gone beyond the basics of sitdowns untill lately, sits have more to them then meets the eye so many variations and creative tricks and it will take years to master.  Juggling siting down is harder then standing up. And inorder to try to do sitdowns u relly must know the basics of lowers nobody goes into fs and just starts doing sits they first do lowers and learn basics like atw which are easy tricks then they expand and do sits, learning to juggle siting is much harder then standing. the end
, there is a whole new level to be unleashed in sits just like palle unleashed crazy nt combos

[Shenker]

what u say oLi is in terms of lower freestyle combos

sits r easy to learn  :biggrin:
and oli i disagree with u

r u kidding me lowers are WAY more easier to learn thats why u see beginners and everyone who starts off doing lowers and tricks like atw

um........no they are not
out of all 3 things sits r the easiest
the reason that there are less masters of sits is because they get really boring  :lol:

u make it boring because all beginner sitdowner's do is latws atws and shit combos which is stupid, and depends what u meen by easiest, to master??? no. nobody has really gone beyond the basics of sitdowns untill lately, sits have more to them then meets the eye so many variations and creative tricks and it will take years to master.  Juggling siting down is harder then standing up. And inorder to try to do sitdowns u relly must know the basics of lowers nobody goes into fs and just starts doing sits they first do lowers and learn basics like atw which are easy tricks then they expand and do sits, learning to juggle siting is much harder then standing. the end
, there is a whole new level to be unleashed in sits just like palle unleashed crazy nt combos

agreed very good point

[Royal Freakiness]

I think why ppl say sits are easy is coz all they do are cross-xover-revers cross-shin-head-knee...
you know, the BASICS
does Abdullah do those till now? no, he goes way beyond normal cross combos
All three (or four I should say, coz ground moves is a form of freestyle) are as hard in their own way.
you won't really be a master in any of them unless you dedicate yourself to any of them
like for instance, abdullah is only a master at sits, Skora at Air combos, Magnus at uppers
that shows each of them are as hard as each other coz you have to dedicate yourself to one of them to be a master at one of them
(you get what I mean, my brain is all fuzzy so my english is messed up)
the ultimate best freestyler would dedicate like 3 hours to each of them each day

[AznMagic]

I think why ppl say sits are easy is coz all they do are cross-xover-revers cross-shin-head-knee...
you know, the BASICS
does Abdullah do those till now? no, he goes way beyond normal cross combos
All three (or four I should say, coz ground moves is a form of freestyle) are as hard in their own way.
you won't really be a master in any of them unless you dedicate yourself to any of them
like for instance, abdullah is only a master at sits, Skora at Air combos, Magnus at uppers
that shows each of them are as hard as each other coz you have to dedicate yourself to one of them to be a master at one of them
(you get what I mean, my brain is all fuzzy so my english is messed up)
the ultimate best freestyler would dedicate like 3 hours to each of them each day

yea so there are categories of freestyle, but to seperate them completely and talk like this is just silly.  the best freestylers will incorporate them all.  the best of them will know how to transition from one to the next so each and every moves are a segment of a cohesive unit that is his routine.

[Royal Freakiness]

I think why ppl say sits are easy is coz all they do are cross-xover-revers cross-shin-head-knee...
you know, the BASICS
does Abdullah do those till now? no, he goes way beyond normal cross combos
All three (or four I should say, coz ground moves is a form of freestyle) are as hard in their own way.
you won't really be a master in any of them unless you dedicate yourself to any of them
like for instance, abdullah is only a master at sits, Skora at Air combos, Magnus at uppers
that shows each of them are as hard as each other coz you have to dedicate yourself to one of them to be a master at one of them
(you get what I mean, my brain is all fuzzy so my english is messed up)
the ultimate best freestyler would dedicate like 3 hours to each of them each day

yea so there are categories of freestyle, but to seperate them completely and talk like this is just silly.  the best freestylers will incorporate them all.  the best of them will know how to transition from one to the next so each and every moves are a segment of a cohesive unit that is his routine.

yeah, that's what I meant to say too  :bang:
after mastering all the styles, he will mix them together

[AznMagic]

I think why ppl say sits are easy is coz all they do are cross-xover-revers cross-shin-head-knee...
you know, the BASICS
does Abdullah do those till now? no, he goes way beyond normal cross combos
All three (or four I should say, coz ground moves is a form of freestyle) are as hard in their own way.
you won't really be a master in any of them unless you dedicate yourself to any of them
like for instance, abdullah is only a master at sits, Skora at Air combos, Magnus at uppers
that shows each of them are as hard as each other coz you have to dedicate yourself to one of them to be a master at one of them
(you get what I mean, my brain is all fuzzy so my english is messed up)
the ultimate best freestyler would dedicate like 3 hours to each of them each day

yea so there are categories of freestyle, but to seperate them completely and talk like this is just silly.  the best freestylers will incorporate them all.  the best of them will know how to transition from one to the next so each and every moves are a segment of a cohesive unit that is his routine.

yeah, that's what I meant to say too  :bang:
after mastering all the styles, he will mix them together

like john farnworth! :cheers:

[Royal Freakiness]

I think why ppl say sits are easy is coz all they do are cross-xover-revers cross-shin-head-knee...
you know, the BASICS
does Abdullah do those till now? no, he goes way beyond normal cross combos
All three (or four I should say, coz ground moves is a form of freestyle) are as hard in their own way.
you won't really be a master in any of them unless you dedicate yourself to any of them
like for instance, abdullah is only a master at sits, Skora at Air combos, Magnus at uppers
that shows each of them are as hard as each other coz you have to dedicate yourself to one of them to be a master at one of them
(you get what I mean, my brain is all fuzzy so my english is messed up)
the ultimate best freestyler would dedicate like 3 hours to each of them each day

yea so there are categories of freestyle, but to seperate them completely and talk like this is just silly.  the best freestylers will incorporate them all.  the best of them will know how to transition from one to the next so each and every moves are a segment of a cohesive unit that is his routine.

yeah, that's what I meant to say too  :bang:
after mastering all the styles, he will mix them together

like john farnworth! :cheers:

TRUE!
I think he's the most dedicated fser. he really wants to be the best at everything
good for him

[Macca]

i am a master

everybody else is beginner

[timm]

fs is about many things
style, showmanship, lowers, uppers, sits, soles
not just lowers olly

rofl  :hello:

[TheIrishFreestyler]

Somebody said Sits are the easiest and there are not so many "Masters" because Sits get boring......

If they get boring thats fine, your opinion, but to say they are the easiest to learn is total bullshit.

And my opinion is that combos get boring.

[JoshClarkeFS]

freestyle is what you want it to be about
thats y its freestyle


uppers,lower,sits


 :cheers:

[DanTheMan]

in general terms oLi's list is spot on
but there needs to be more than 3 steps.
for example i wud say im intermediate but i cant do long combos without crossover
so its different for everybody