Skill Level

[AznMagic]

Lower example
 
Beginner
You're learning to do some tricks. You can do tatw, matw, amatw and some other easy beginner tricks

Intermediate
You have done your first nt combo (co matw/tatw/amatw/atatw) and you can do some longer combos aswell without using a crossover/xover/reverse cross

Advanced
You can do some of the more difficult lower combos (tatw amatw amatw, amatw amatw amatw)

Master
Skora, FX, Szymo, Rocco or Azun level. When you are at this level either nobody can repeat what you can do or only a very few amount of people can.



I believe that there should be more steps because the jumps are rather large but that's just my opinion.

beginners are guys that are beginning.  beginners learn simple tricks like atw, crossover, toebounce, neckstall, headstall, and other shit like that.  tatw, matw, and amatw are not beginner tricks.

[Jonathonhehu]

what u say oLi is in terms of lower freestyle combos

sits r easy to learn  :biggrin:
and oli i disagree with u

r u kidding me lowers are WAY more easier to learn thats why u see beginners and everyone who starts off doing lowers and tricks like atw

[redsforlife]

what u say oLi is in terms of lower freestyle combos

sits r easy to learn  :biggrin:
and oli i disagree with u

r u kidding me lowers are WAY more easier to learn thats why u see beginners and everyone who starts off doing lowers and tricks like atw

ur right hehu. there's an obvious reason there are far less sits masters like abdullah, mattmatt, and linder; while there are far more top level lowers freestylers. i honestly think that all of them are pretty much equally difficult just in different ways. lowers rely more on quickness, sits touch, and uppers control and balance. for me judging level would be like this: beginners can do easy tricks and haven't been freestyling long, intermediates are consistent at easy tricks and can do some advanced tricks, advanced is consistent at some advanced tricks, and masters have extreme consistency at various types of advanced tricks in all areas.

[stefanfreestylez]

what u say oLi is in terms of lower freestyle combos

sits r easy to learn  :biggrin:
and oli i disagree with u

r u kidding me lowers are WAY more easier to learn thats why u see beginners and everyone who starts off doing lowers and tricks like atw

um........no they are not
out of all 3 things sits r the easiest
the reason that there are less masters of sits is because they get really boring  :lol:

[stefanfreestylez]

tatw, matw, and amatw are not beginner tricks.

  :thumbsup: they kinda aren't but also kinda are cuz they are pretty easy to learn when u first start :boxing:

[serbianfreestyle]

what u say oLi is in terms of lower freestyle combos

sits r easy to learn  :biggrin:
and oli i disagree with u

r u kidding me lowers are WAY more easier to learn thats why u see beginners and everyone who starts off doing lowers and tricks like atw

um........no they are not
out of all 3 things sits r the easiest
the reason that there are less masters of sits is because they get really boring  :lol:

+ karma ...also some beginners don't know about ''sitdowns'' and see most videos and do airs

[redsforlife]

yall are just obsessed with lowers. most beginners probably can't even juggle while sitting down(its easier to do atw, cross, and htw than juggle while sitting.) becoming as good as abdullah at sits is just as hard as becoming as good as skora at lowers or dan magnus at uppers. they are all difficult in their own ways, its just what you as an individual become comfortable with more. just curious, how do sits get really boring? compared to lowers which unless you really know each trick really does look the same to most people. sits many great variations like crosses, shins, head, shoulders, soles, and more. all-around freestyle is most important.

[footballfsca]

I like sits more then lowers but lowers are a lot harder in many ways. Sits is just a matter of getting used to it and as long as uer legs go around it and get used to it then sits will become very easy, on the other hand lowers are very stressful and are very tiring when doing hardcore combos or even intermediate combos and need lots of practice to get used to it. In conclusion the only reason y ppl say that sits are easier is just because simply they can do them better then lowers but lowers are a lot harder!

[AznMagic]

what u say oLi is in terms of lower freestyle combos

sits r easy to learn  :biggrin:
and oli i disagree with u

r u kidding me lowers are WAY more easier to learn thats why u see beginners and everyone who starts off doing lowers and tricks like atw

ur right hehu. there's an obvious reason there are far less sits masters like abdullah, mattmatt, and linder; while there are far more top level lowers freestylers. i honestly think that all of them are pretty much equally difficult just in different ways. lowers rely more on quickness, sits touch, and uppers control and balance. for me judging level would be like this: beginners can do easy tricks and haven't been freestyling long, intermediates are consistent at easy tricks and can do some advanced tricks, advanced is consistent at some advanced tricks, and masters have extreme consistency at various types of advanced tricks in all areas.

yes exactly.  +1 karma

[dfresh]

I agree that there are so many skill sets with what qualifies a beginner and a master of freestyle. To determine it based only on which tricks one can do is a bit too simplistic and needs more specification. For me a master like skora for example not only exemplifies the hardest tricks, but he sets the bar higher with every video and LP. The masters of freestyle are those who have done something different for the sport. They are innovative and do not simply do what has been done as they constantly setting the bar higher with new tricks and variations.  Azun for example not only can do crazy nt combos like on oli's list, but he set forth new patw combos that were never done before. Masters are those people that will be remembered in freestyle for creating new styles and tricks, not simply those who can do nt hardcore combos. Not to mention they do these things with great style and personality.  

[stefanfreestylez]

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=m0IgU1BotfI&feature=channel_page
oli said intermidate is doing combos with hatw atw htw and no crossovers but look at one of noaula's combos beck atw combohttp://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=m0IgU1BotfI&feature=channel_page

[L_I_S]

Lower example
 
Beginner
You're learning to do some tricks. You can do tatw, matw, amatw and some other easy beginner tricks

Intermediate
You have done your first nt combo (co matw/tatw/amatw/atatw) and you can do some longer combos aswell without using a crossover/xover/reverse cross

Advanced
You can do some of the more difficult lower combos (tatw amatw amatw, amatw amatw amatw)

Master
Skora, FX, Szymo, Rocco or Azun level. When you are at this level either nobody can repeat what you can do or only a very few amount of people can.



I believe that there should be more steps because the jumps are rather large but that's just my opinion.

:thumbsup:
id give u karma but u dont care about that...rite