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Re: Israel = Nazi state
« Reply #132 on: Jan 06, 2009, 09:05: AM »
i'm pretty sure they just don't want anyone to know exactly what's they are doing :thumbsup:
it's possible, but everyone knows that they're killing some innocent people, and it's not like they're gonna commit a mass genocide, so I don't really think they have anything to hide. I think they want as little bad media coverage as possible.
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Re: Israel = Nazi state
« Reply #133 on: Jan 06, 2009, 12:47: PM »
i'm pretty sure they just don't want anyone to know exactly what's they are doing :thumbsup:
it's possible, but everyone knows that they're killing some innocent people, and it's not like they're gonna commit a mass genocide, so I don't really think they have anything to hide. I think they want as little bad media coverage as possible.
Yeah your right its just one defenseless country. People talk trash about Hamas, but the only option left for Palestine after years of hardship and never ending false peace deals they had no choice but to elect Hamas. When the death toll of Palestinian civilian reached 3000 Isreal had their first death and held the biggest ceremony f'ed up shit.

And the only reason they don't want media there is because they don't people to see a rocket launcher being countered with tanks, bombs, guns and fighter jets.

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Re: Israel = Nazi state
« Reply #134 on: Jan 06, 2009, 01:23: PM »
i'm pretty sure they just don't want anyone to know exactly what's they are doing :thumbsup:
it's possible, but everyone knows that they're killing some innocent people, and it's not like they're gonna commit a mass genocide, so I don't really think they have anything to hide. I think they want as little bad media coverage as possible.
Yeah your right its just one defenseless country. People talk trash about Hamas, but the only option left for Palestine after years of hardship and never ending false peace deals they had no choice but to elect Hamas. When the death toll of Palestinian civilian reached 3000 Isreal had their first death and held the biggest ceremony f'ed up shit.

And the only reason they don't want media there is because they don't people to see a rocket launcher being countered with tanks, bombs, guns and fighter jets.
the first part wasn't relevant to my post but meh...
if the palestinians had elected Abbas, for example, they would be living in peace and Israel wouldn't be bothering them at all, so I don't really see what you're trying to say...electing Hamas was the stupidest thing they could have possible done.
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Re: Israel = Nazi state
« Reply #135 on: Jan 06, 2009, 04:18: PM »
from what i know Isreal is banning all foreign media in Gaza, but i'm trying to figure out why...

so no one can witness the atrocities they are commiting


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Re: Israel = Nazi state
« Reply #136 on: Jan 06, 2009, 06:31: PM »
i'm pretty sure they just don't want anyone to know exactly what's they are doing :thumbsup:
it's possible, but everyone knows that they're killing some innocent people, and it's not like they're gonna commit a mass genocide, so I don't really think they have anything to hide. I think they want as little bad media coverage as possible.
Yeah your right its just one defenseless country. People talk trash about Hamas, but the only option left for Palestine after years of hardship and never ending false peace deals they had no choice but to elect Hamas. When the death toll of Palestinian civilian reached 3000 Isreal had their first death and held the biggest ceremony f'ed up shit.

And the only reason they don't want media there is because they don't people to see a rocket launcher being countered with tanks, bombs, guns and fighter jets.
the first part wasn't relevant to my post but meh...
if the palestinians had elected Abbas, for example, they would be living in peace and Israel wouldn't be bothering them at all, so I don't really see what you're trying to say...electing Hamas was the stupidest thing they could have possible done.
From the outside and from media speculations it seems that way but electing Mohamoud Abbas would've been just accepting the abuse.
Peace deals never happen, peacekeepers never do their job and electing Hamas is like self defense.
Unless there is unpopulated land that Isreal can move to and not have to force their way in to live on there might never be peace in Palestine.

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Re: Israel = Nazi state
« Reply #137 on: Jan 07, 2009, 01:03: AM »
i'm pretty sure they just don't want anyone to know exactly what's they are doing :thumbsup:
it's possible, but everyone knows that they're killing some innocent people, and it's not like they're gonna commit a mass genocide, so I don't really think they have anything to hide. I think they want as little bad media coverage as possible.

 The way you say they are killing a some innocent people as if its nothing. The death of even one innocent person is unacceptable. Now if only ''some'' innocent Israeli people where getting killed on a daily basis you and the rest of the world would be outraged and up in arms. Palestinians are human beings as well their kids deserve futures.  Its disgusting how most in the world have that one Israeli life is equal to a few hundred Palestinians. You got Jews protesting around the world that Hamas should stop its rocket attacks when its nothing compared to the Palestinian lives that are been destroyed every day. Sick bastards actually want to campare 700+ deaths and Thousands injured and left displaced to 10 deaths? Wheres the logic? Why aren't thay condemning the Israeli army? Because they fully support the loss of lives on the Palestinians side.

Israeli army is using chemical weapons in Gaza. Maybe that why they don't want media.
-Israel is using controversial white phosphorus shells to push forward with a ground offensive against the densely-populated Gaza Strip.
-White phosphorus, classified as 'chemical weapon' by the US intelligence, can cause horrific burns and severe injuries in anyone exposed to the element released from artillery shells.

Weren't you saying that Israel has intelligence and is hitting Hamas targets? A school full of children is a Hamas target now? I'm sure the children are launching rockets into Israel? Remember this school is run by the UN so its clearly marked. Its not like these bastards didn't know.  Hitting schools and Mosques during prayer time. If one of those Hamas rockets hit a synagogue its would be all over the news, the world would be crying tears of blood.  :down:

-On Tuesday, the Israelis launched an attack on a school run by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (Unrwa) in the northern town of Jabaliya.

-The attack left 43 Palestinians dead and around 100 wounded.

Footage:
http://current.com/items/89685618/korean_television_has_video_of_a_palestinian_girl_confronting_israeli_soldiers.htm


''A Palestinian girl pleads with Israeli soldiers (in English) to stop shooting (rubber bullets?) into a crowd of demonstrating young people and some children. She asks "why?" because the crowd has no weapons. Every picture tells a story''.

Footage: Israel bombing UN school.

http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=MTQxOTE5NTU2

Footage: Apartment building getting dropped by a f16

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab0_1231290043
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Israel is carrying out one of the largest massacres in its 60-year occupation of Palestine. Here there are people backing and trying to justify it as defensive.  Why don't Israel just remove the blockade on Gaza and let it be on its own and see if they continue firing the rockets? Anyone can think of this solution. Do you think Hamas would not fire rockets into Israel when there is a blockade imposed on them by Israel that denies them the basic means of survival, let alone the basic means to create a functioning society. Israel needs to quit giving Hamas propaganda to use to win more support for it's cause. Its idiotic. 

 Israel know that this massacre will not crush the Palestinian resistance, it hasn't in the past what makes them think it will now? When Israel was being established as a new state, 750,000 Palestinians were deliberately cleansed and expelled from their homes, and hundreds of their villages were destroyed. Now 60 years later after many massacres that haven't been condemned and no one has been bought to justice for.  The Israeli military again bombing the starving and imprisoned population of 1.5 million Gaza. Doesn't this remind you of the Warsaw ghetto where the Jews where blocked off and bombarded by the Nazis? Since you love trade mark the holocaust and use it as a weapon/tool to defend and justify what your people are doing.  Whats happening today is a modern day holocaust. The Israelis are a gang of fascist that just want to stall, because peace is no option for them. Thats why ships that are brining food, aid and medical equipment to Gaza are being confronted by the Israeli army threating to sink them if they don't go back. Injured Gazans are dying everyday because the hospitals don't have proper medical equipment and are short on supplies because of the blockade. its clearly a humanitarian crisis going on and a genocide.


For a person seeing their loved ones get killed and maimed, entire buildings get blown to the ground and on top of that, living mostly off of UN food rations, having sporadic electricity and running water, you can't expect them to wave a magic wand all of the sudden turn on Hamas and be cool with Israel. This will only increase support for Hamas. When they're being subjected to that kind of situation Gazans are being subjected to there is only one option. You can't oppress people who have already made enough sacrifices having their land taken of them by force than bomb the shit out of them on top of that and expect them to submit.

A genocide is taking place while the world turns a blind eye. But stop trying to defend and justify it because your beginning to make yourself look stupid and cowardly. Just keep your mouth shut and pretend like nothing is happen like you have been lately, have I made my self clear son? I can go on posting pages and pages of whats really going on but the blind and ignorant will remain blind and ignorant. Your word has lost all value and credibility. Your crying out the same pro Israeli propaganda been pumped out by all western media outlets. By supporting the slaughter of innocent people you are no different form those dirty pigs and scum who are committing these racist crimes.


 









   

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Re: Israel = Nazi state
« Reply #138 on: Jan 07, 2009, 03:35: AM »
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Re: Israel = Nazi state
« Reply #139 on: Jan 07, 2009, 08:29: AM »
i'm pretty sure they just don't want anyone to know exactly what's they are doing :thumbsup:
it's possible, but everyone knows that they're killing some innocent people, and it's not like they're gonna commit a mass genocide, so I don't really think they have anything to hide. I think they want as little bad media coverage as possible.

 The way you say they are killing a some innocent people as if its nothing. The death of even one innocent person is unacceptable. Now if only ''some'' innocent Israeli people where getting killed on a daily basis you and the rest of the world would be outraged and up in arms. Palestinians are human beings as well their kids deserve futures.  Its disgusting how most in the world have that one Israeli life is equal to a few hundred Palestinians. You got Jews protesting around the world that Hamas should stop its rocket attacks when its nothing compared to the Palestinian lives that are been destroyed every day. Sick bastards actually want to campare 700+ deaths and Thousands injured and left displaced to 10 deaths? Wheres the logic? Why aren't thay condemning the Israeli army? Because they fully support the loss of lives on the Palestinians side.

Israeli army is using chemical weapons in Gaza. Maybe that why they don't want media.
-Israel is using controversial white phosphorus shells to push forward with a ground offensive against the densely-populated Gaza Strip.
-White phosphorus, classified as 'chemical weapon' by the US intelligence, can cause horrific burns and severe injuries in anyone exposed to the element released from artillery shells.

Weren't you saying that Israel has intelligence and is hitting Hamas targets? A school full of children is a Hamas target now? I'm sure the children are launching rockets into Israel? Remember this school is run by the UN so its clearly marked. Its not like these bastards didn't know.  Hitting schools and Mosques during prayer time. If one of those Hamas rockets hit a synagogue its would be all over the news, the world would be crying tears of blood.  :down:

-On Tuesday, the Israelis launched an attack on a school run by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (Unrwa) in the northern town of Jabaliya.

-The attack left 43 Palestinians dead and around 100 wounded.

Footage:
http://current.com/items/89685618/korean_television_has_video_of_a_palestinian_girl_confronting_israeli_soldiers.htm


''A Palestinian girl pleads with Israeli soldiers (in English) to stop shooting (rubber bullets?) into a crowd of demonstrating young people and some children. She asks "why?" because the crowd has no weapons. Every picture tells a story''.

Footage: Israel bombing UN school.

http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=MTQxOTE5NTU2

Footage: Apartment building getting dropped by a f16

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab0_1231290043
---------------------

Israel is carrying out one of the largest massacres in its 60-year occupation of Palestine. Here there are people backing and trying to justify it as defensive.  Why don't Israel just remove the blockade on Gaza and let it be on its own and see if they continue firing the rockets? Anyone can think of this solution. Do you think Hamas would not fire rockets into Israel when there is a blockade imposed on them by Israel that denies them the basic means of survival, let alone the basic means to create a functioning society. Israel needs to quit giving Hamas propaganda to use to win more support for it's cause. Its idiotic. 

 Israel know that this massacre will not crush the Palestinian resistance, it hasn't in the past what makes them think it will now? When Israel was being established as a new state, 750,000 Palestinians were deliberately cleansed and expelled from their homes, and hundreds of their villages were destroyed. Now 60 years later after many massacres that haven't been condemned and no one has been bought to justice for.  The Israeli military again bombing the starving and imprisoned population of 1.5 million Gaza. Doesn't this remind you of the Warsaw ghetto where the Jews where blocked off and bombarded by the Nazis? Since you love trade mark the holocaust and use it as a weapon/tool to defend and justify what your people are doing.  Whats happening today is a modern day holocaust. The Israelis are a gang of fascist that just want to stall, because peace is no option for them. Thats why ships that are brining food, aid and medical equipment to Gaza are being confronted by the Israeli army threating to sink them if they don't go back. Injured Gazans are dying everyday because the hospitals don't have proper medical equipment and are short on supplies because of the blockade. its clearly a humanitarian crisis going on and a genocide.


For a person seeing their loved ones get killed and maimed, entire buildings get blown to the ground and on top of that, living mostly off of UN food rations, having sporadic electricity and running water, you can't expect them to wave a magic wand all of the sudden turn on Hamas and be cool with Israel. This will only increase support for Hamas. When they're being subjected to that kind of situation Gazans are being subjected to there is only one option. You can't oppress people who have already made enough sacrifices having their land taken of them by force than bomb the shit out of them on top of that and expect them to submit.

A genocide is taking place while the world turns a blind eye. But stop trying to defend and justify it because your beginning to make yourself look stupid and cowardly. Just keep your mouth shut and pretend like nothing is happen like you have been lately, have I made my self clear son? I can go on posting pages and pages of whats really going on but the blind and ignorant will remain blind and ignorant. Your word has lost all value and credibility. Your crying out the same pro Israeli propaganda been pumped out by all western media outlets. By supporting the slaughter of innocent people you are no different form those dirty pigs and scum who are committing these racist crimes.


 









   
Before I address your main points (I have lots of homework), I'll ask you to stop using the word 'genocide. Clearly, the meaning of that word, like the meaning of 'Nazi,' eludes you. Genocide is the systematic and purposeful elimination of a group of people because they belong to that  group. Israel is not doing that, they are making a statement and trying to overthrow/subdue Hamas. Although they are clearly going about it in the wrong way, it's definitely not genocide. By the way, I agree with a fair bit of what you're saying.

Point of interest: some Muslim residents of Gaza support Israel's invasion, because they say that Hamas deserves it. Some of these people have been tortured by Hamas, and most of them are members of Fatah. I was really surprised to hear that, actually.
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Re: Israel = Nazi state
« Reply #140 on: Jan 07, 2009, 01:16: PM »
I know what Genocide means: and its always been clear thats Israels main intention.


As for that second statement its pure Israeli propaganda. Hamas is democratically elected, Hamas hasn't turned on its own people (except for Fatah/ who fail to except defeat and recogniz Hamas as the current government). Why does everyone forget that Hamas have built schools, homes, hospitals and have improved Palestinian infrastructure. As for Fatah they are a bunch of Israeli puppets and cowards they have lost the respect of the Palestinian people a long time ago. This sounds so much like Israeli pro Fatah propaganda. Sure some one would support their own people and homes being bombed.. Thats laughable. 

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« Reply #141 on: Jan 07, 2009, 01:23: PM »
I know what Genocide means: and its always been clear thats Israels main intention.


As for that second statement its pure Israeli propaganda. Hamas is democratically elected, Hamas hasn't turned on its own people (except for Fatah/ who fail to except defeat and recogniz Hamas as the current government). Why does everyone forget that Hamas have built schools, homes, hospitals and have improved Palestinian infrastructure. As for Fatah they are a bunch of Israeli puppets and cowards they have lost the respect of the Palestinian people a long time ago. This sounds so much like Israeli pro Fatah propaganda. Sure some one would support their own people and homes being bombed.. Thats laughable. 
hamas haven't improved the palestinian infrastructure in any way. Sorry.

Wow your views are actually really skewed. Like really skewed. I don't even know what to say...because no matter what I say, no matter how much evidence I put up, nothing is going to change what you believe.

And Genocide as Israel's main intention?  :lol: Even Hamas don't say that.
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« Reply #142 on: Jan 07, 2009, 01:48: PM »
Hamas has been building and running many positive programs for the Palestinian community in Gaza even before they where elected. They have never turned their backs on the people of Gaza. Thats why they have a large support and the support for Hamas will only increase after this siege. Because they are still fighting back to defend Palestinian land daily. Its a shame western media paint a picture of Hamas being a blood thirsty organization. They have a political front, a humanitarian front, militant front etc etc. Your so misinformed stick to your Harry Potter and Poetry scriptures or what ever it is you kill your time with and stay out of this because you don't have a clue about the other side.

What evidence are you providing? Even you know your wrong. Continue on lying to yourself.




 

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« Reply #143 on: Jan 07, 2009, 02:07: PM »
Hamas has been building and running many positive programs for the Palestinian community in Gaza even before they where elected. They have never turned their backs on the people of Gaza. Thats why they have a large support and the support for Hamas will only increase after this siege. Because they are still fighting back to defend Palestinian land daily. Its a shame western media paint a picture of Hamas being a blood thirsty organization. They have a political front, a humanitarian front, militant front etc etc. Your so misinformed stick to your Harry Potter and Poetry scriptures or what ever it is you kill your time with and stay out of this because you don't have a clue about the other side.

What evidence are you providing? Even you know your wrong. Continue on lying to yourself.




 
first of all, Hamas are losing support because the people know that the rockets triggered Israel's OVERREACTION (there, I said it for the umpteenth time). Secondly, if you call positive programs indoctrination and strapping roles of explosives onto teenagers and sending them ioacross the border, then yeah, they've been doing just that. I mean in the past years, Hamas has been focusing almost all of their energy on attacking Israel, as opposed to seeing to their own. I'd like to know where you're getting your info from, because I;m getting mine from the newspapers and various newstations...

harry potter? Ad hominem isn't an argument, it's just a camouflage for fools.
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