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Who will be crowned the biggest disapointment?

Steve mclaren
10 (40%)
Putting Carson in agains croats
1 (4%)
The artificial pitch at Russia
1 (4%)
Gerrerd and lamps not workin together
1 (4%)
Underestemating opposition
2 (8%)
Not giving youth a chance Eg. bentley, walcott, richards
2 (8%)
Rooney being overated
4 (16%)
England arent as good at football compared to russia and he croats
2 (8%)
Other
2 (8%)

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Reason Why England didnt qaulify ?
« on: Jul 06, 2008, 06:58: AM »
u decide  :dontknow:

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Re: Reason Why England didnt qaulify ?
« Reply #1 on: Jul 06, 2008, 07:49: AM »
i cant pick just 1, but being english i can say steve mclaren was crap.
there are very talented players there, but teres the lck of teamness
eg. u cant always play 2 great players together, eg lampard and gerrard
the amount of times they played together b4 realising it doesnt work.
i am one of the few who think rooney is overrated, no doubt he is a good player but idont put him in that top category, i think he gets way to much praise over here just cos of his nationality. he goes games without scoring and then when he scored a tap in against roma this season the commentator waslike "theres no better player in the world right now"

now on the russia croatia thing, i believe croatia ARE a better team than england but maye not russia, rooney fcked up in the away match giving them a penalty for no reason when england were 1-0 up, and england beat russia 3-0 at home.
i also think england are slightly overrated, and alot of the ppl andsupporters have much too high expectations / an arrogance about them.

on the youth issue, i dont think walcott shud be called up.. he orignally got his first cap without even beinga proven championship player, maybe now is a better time to call him up tho as he has improved alot, altho still young a still inconsistent at times.

and on the carson issue, every keeper in the world makes mistakes..he made 1 at the worst time, but he also made a wonder save in that match i recall.. name 1 great keeper who hasnt made a mistake, van der saar, cech buffon, the lot of them. amen

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Re: Reason Why England didnt qaulify ?
« Reply #2 on: Jul 06, 2008, 12:47: PM »
they just arnt good at football
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Re: Reason Why England didnt qaulify ?
« Reply #3 on: Jul 06, 2008, 06:11: PM »
they just arnt good at football
...so they couldnĀ“t qualify, thats simple  :dontknow:

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Re: Reason Why England didnt qaulify ?
« Reply #4 on: Jul 06, 2008, 08:57: PM »
because there shit.why do people always ask this question. time and time again england have shown what a team they are. A shit team


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Re: Reason Why England didnt qaulify ?
« Reply #5 on: Jul 06, 2008, 10:03: PM »
because there shit.why do people always ask this question. time and time again england have shown what a team they are. A shit team
i think thats a bit harsh, b4 the last euros they made 3 quarters in 3 tourneys, losing 2 times on penalties in matches where they both should have won. 1 game having a goal disallowed for no reason, and another tourney losing to brazil who went on to win the tourney.
overrated yes, but shit no

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Re: Reason Why England didnt qaulify ?
« Reply #6 on: Jul 06, 2008, 11:36: PM »
no lets face it with the inividuals we have on that team we shud be qualyfying, and i think if we did get to the euros we wudnt be the worst team there e. austria, poland, france,czech rep. but that is god old england no matter how good the individuals there is we never get anywhere.
and i think quaite a few of english players wud get inttos the spain team:

terry, ferdinand, ashley cole, stevie g, etc


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Re: Reason Why England didnt qaulify ?
« Reply #7 on: Jul 07, 2008, 12:39: AM »
no lets face it with the inividuals we have on that team we shud be qualyfying, and i think if we did get to the euros we wudnt be the worst team there e. austria, poland, france,czech rep. but that is god old england no matter how good the individuals there is we never get anywhere.
and i think quaite a few of english players wud get inttos the spain team:

terry, ferdinand, ashley cole, stevie g, etc



yes individuals, but its a team sport not individual, its all about the team attributes.
and whats wrong with poland czech or france?! yes france were poor this time around, but they have always been better than england, poland beat portugal in qualifying, and czech beat germany.

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Re: Reason Why England didnt qaulify ?
« Reply #8 on: Jul 07, 2008, 01:26: AM »
no lets face it with the inividuals we have on that team we shud be qualyfying, and i think if we did get to the euros we wudnt be the worst team there e. austria, poland, france,czech rep. but that is god old england no matter how good the individuals there is we never get anywhere.
and i think quaite a few of english players wud get inttos the spain team:

terry, ferdinand, ashley cole, stevie g, etc



yes individuals, but its a team sport not individual, its all about the team attributes.
and whats wrong with poland czech or france?! yes france were poor this time around, but they have always been better than england, poland beat portugal in qualifying, and czech beat germany.

yh but theres also austria and switserland, if only those idividuals could gel we could be one of the best, but thats just england for you

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Re: Reason Why England didnt qaulify ?
« Reply #9 on: Jul 07, 2008, 01:28: AM »
Even though im english i have to say its because england just aren't that good anymore they have no players with a decent amount of technical ability apart from owen Hargreaves and that means they just can't cut it when it comes to high level performances.

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Re: Reason Why England didnt qaulify ?
« Reply #10 on: Jul 07, 2008, 02:14: AM »
Even though im english i have to say its because england just aren't that good anymore they have no players with a decent amount of technical ability apart from owen Hargreaves and that means they just can't cut it when it comes to high level performances.

no, think about, ithink it was 12 english players who appered in the champions leageue final, youre tellin me tha gerrard, joe cole, david becham, rooney, etc. arent technically gifted  :saywhat:, its just they cant perform internatinally for some reason

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Re: Reason Why England didnt qaulify ?
« Reply #11 on: Jul 07, 2008, 03:32: AM »
Yes those players are great in their club positions and with their club team setup but as soon as they are taken out of that setting and forced into a new setting i.e the national team they beccome crap because they have no techincal ability so they can't adapt to new situations play in different roles or change roles during the game, and that is needed at international level i mean take for instant Sneijder who can attack down the wings or the front and play in central midfield try getting gerrard to do that or lampard it just won't happen.  This is what changes good club players to great international players, the ablity to change to different roles, and none of the english players not even the english midfield with possible exceptions being Hargreaves and in the future maybe rooney are able to play anywhere but their one position which gives for a very static and crap team.