The Rooney topic....Moby I am disappionted in you

[ElDiablo©]

What the hell did Rooney do in the CL Final ?

Atleast Drogba hit the post. I have no hatred for Rooney. I just dont think he deserves ManUnited. ManUnited is too good for Rooney,He shouldve stayed at Everton. Frankly,I think Rooney is just hands down Bad. He hasnt done anything remarkable from the past 2-3 years. I just think that he's a useless player.

[cigar omar]

Every couple of years they pick a young English lad, transfer him to a 'big' English club and hype him up so much and try to convince the world England has a top 5 world player. They did it with Owen he wasn't special. They did it with Beckham a man whose never dribbled or took on an opponent in his career. Its all bullshit hype the whole world is aware of it except the sheep.

I would understand if they did it with Lampard or Gerrard atleast these guys are talanted and proven. But damn Rooney is pathetic compared to the worlds best.  Thats real talk. Guy who had a 2 year Champions League goal drought who is out scored by a midfielder and many strikers in the same league every season. Couldn't even help England qualify trust me the problem is up front and its not Crouch. Its always the same excuse his loyal fans make hes got heart, he never gives up the guy argues and swears at referees and opponents more than he scores goals. Who gives a damn every player out there gives it a hundred percent its the talent that make magic on the field or brings the goals.  :down:

Crouch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rooney

[TheKingNut]

Every couple of years they pick a young English lad, transfer him to a 'big' English club and hype him up so much and try to convince the world England has a top 5 world player. They did it with Owen he wasn't special. They did it with Beckham a man whose never dribbled or took on an opponent in his career. Its all bullshit hype the whole world is aware of it except the sheep.

I would understand if they did it with Lampard or Gerrard atleast these guys are talanted and proven. But damn Rooney is pathetic compared to the worlds best.  Thats real talk. Guy who had a 2 year Champions League goal drought who is out scored by a midfielder and many strikers in the same league every season. Couldn't even help England qualify trust me the problem is up front and its not Crouch. Its always the same excuse his loyal fans make hes got heart, he never gives up the guy argues and swears at referees and opponents more than he scores goals. Who gives a damn every player out there gives it a hundred percent its the talent that make magic on the field or brings the goals.  :down:

Crouch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rooney

Woh, woh, woh. Hold it there mate. I understand if people believe certain players are overrated, that is fair enough, but to say what you just said is ridiculous. It is comments like these that will get you no respect from people in the football world. Let me go through your mistakes point by point.

1) It is true that the English media do hype players up but Owen is special. At 18 he scored 2 goals in the World Cup, one of which was a very special goal. He then went on to scoop the European player of the year award, special players get that award mate.
2) What does it matter if Beckham doesn't take players on. His end product is superb. People like you probably think that Quarsema is automatically better than players like Beckham just because they look fancy. If players like him ever go onto the heights of which Beckham has achieved he will count himself very lucky.
3) Rooney is very, very talented. Capello just came out in the press saying that Rooney has the potential to go onto be one of the best in the world. Capello has a proven track record, I think he knows what he is talking about compared to you, haha.

You are entitled to your opinion, but do it with grace and thought. You are making comments that literally cannot be true. You sound stupid and you need to think before you start typing on here. Trust me, as you get older you will learn that you are being too hasty and coming across as rather stupid.

TheKingNut has spoke..

[cigar omar]

I see that post already got under the skins of a few fanboys. First of Own scored two goals in the World cup big whop. What has he done ever since hes rotting on the Newcastle United bench as we speak. And they made it out as if hes going to be among the greats of all time I remember him being all over the media being given the title of golden boy.

What does it matter if Beckham doesn't take players on. His end product is superb. People like you probably think that Quarsema is automatically better than players like Beckham just because they look fancy. If players like him ever go onto the heights of which Beckham has achieved he will count himself very lucky.

You don't know me so don't claim  a few bullshit tricks and flicks impress me. A great player has to be all rounded. Not only be able to cross the ball and take a free kick. Look at Zidane for example he was the type of player when it came to it can split the defense with his dribbling, great passer of the ball, can deliver a great cross, great in the air and strikes a mean free kick. The media was trying to put Becks on Zidanes level.

Rooney is very, very talented. Capello just came out in the press saying that Rooney has the potential to go onto be one of the best in the world. Capello has a proven track record, I think he knows what he is talking about compared to you, haha.

You know how the English are if Alex Ferguson himself such a respected figure at United. Was to have a fall out with Rooney and stop playing him his job would be in jeopardy. What do you think they would say about Capello. They would start questioning him. Sven was doing a great job. Maclaren was doing the right thing but its the duds on the fields mistakes they are getting sacked for.

I have noticed all people say to try and defend Rooney is 'Maradona said this about Rooney Pele said that' No disrespect to the legends, but I have said it before these guys will say any thing to remain relevant and be part of the hype.  Don't question the thought that goes into my posts and call me stupid what I said stands I know the truth can hurt sometimes but the sooner you English can see that most of these guys are garbage compared to top international players the better. Trust me players like SWP, Joe Cole, Bently, Lennon, Wallcot, Lita, Johnson ect are given a chance and not kept away because players like Rooney are selected because of the club they play for and there name.

[a;sdlfkjas;df]

They did it with Beckham a man whose never dribbled or took on an opponent in his career.

 

you can't qualify or disqualify wayne rooney as a good or bad player on goals alone.  you can't sit there and evaluate a player's entire performance with one area that is determined to be expected of a player's position on a team sheet.  if we're going to talk statistics, he was third in the premier league in assists.

EDIT:  michael owen has had serious injury issues. 

[cigar omar]

And what happens when Ronaldo stops scoring? and Tevez is unavailable who will the team rely on for goals. Who is Rooney going to assist?

[a;sdlfkjas;df]

if ronaldo played with doncaster rovers in the premier league, would he still score 40+ goals?

 :dontknow:

[cigar omar]

Whats that got to do with anything?

[a;sdlfkjas;df]

we can play hypotheticals all day

[cigar omar]

If anything is stupid its these excuses people are making to defend him. Well if he isn't goals isn't the aspect of his game makes that he can't be judged on. Than what aspect of his game puts him up there with the best? Why don't you elaborate. 

[a;sdlfkjas;df]

i don't think i'd put him up there with the very best

goals can factor in.  i wouldn't use goals exclusively though, especially for him

[cigar omar]

I would say he is overrated ever since the Euro 04 the media and allot of fans have been talking about him as if he is a footballing god. I'm not fully discrediting the man but work rate and assist doesn't make a great striker. Some times hes on the pitch when Tevez is sitting on the bench its very frustrating. Hes £28 million. Adebayor, Drogba or Ibrahimovi?  who in my opinion are more complete strikers aren't worth that much.