Definition of Freestyle Football

[redsforlife]

Freestyle Football- The art of expression with a football without any real structures, limitations, or requirements.


I've noticed  this on here and many other freestyle outlets. People arguing what is real freestyle, or who is a real freestyler? Well, the argument is stupid. It's "free"style, meaning you are free to do it in whatever way you like. If anything, the people that feel you must do something in particular or one style isn't freestyle are the ones that aren't actually freestylers for they have created a structure and requirements to what they do. I am making this post, because I find the entire discussion to be pretty stupid and destructive to the community. We are all freestylers. You don't have to like every style, and you are allowed to think certain styles and tricks are harder than others. We are all entitled to our own opinions. However, we need to stop this stupid argument of whether or not someone is doing freestyle or just football tricks/juggling.

[Adi]

Are you arguing what other people say is wrong or what that definition is at the top of your post?

If you're talking about the definition in bold, I think it does leave it nice and open as it is.

[redsforlife]

Are you arguing what other people say is wrong or what that definition is at the top of your post?

If you're talking about the definition in bold, I think it does leave it nice and open as it is.

No, the bold part is the definition of freestyle football. My argument is people are claiming certain freestylers like Mr. Woo and others aren't freestylers, because they don't do particular tricks. The freestylers claiming certain types of freestyle aren't freestyle aren't using a definition. They are just using, "I don't like his style, so I don't want him to be considered a freestyler." The entire point of my post was to show the actual definition of freestyle football. The entire point of calling it "freestyle" is that there must be unlimited possibilities to how you can do it. Of course you can have sub-genres within freestyle like hardcore lowers, acrobatics, etc., but if you start trying to exclude other styles, you are the one that is no longer freestyling.

[Marko]

Why do you even get mad about Woo arguments? He was a freestyler, but if you can't explain to people that then there was no tatw or combos, then just leave it lol

[Knnthh]

No, the bold part is the definition of freestyle football. My argument is people are claiming certain freestylers like Mr. Woo and others aren't freestylers, because they don't do particular tricks. The freestylers claiming certain types of freestyle aren't freestyle aren't using a definition. They are just using, "I don't like his style, so I don't want him to be considered a freestyler." The entire point of my post was to show the actual definition of freestyle football. The entire point of calling it "freestyle" is that there must be unlimited possibilities to how you can do it. Of course you can have sub-genres within freestyle like hardcore lowers, acrobatics, etc., but if you start trying to exclude other styles, you are the one that is no longer freestyling.

How do I call my sport then?

[redsforlife]

How do I call my sport then?

You exclude different styles? Well, then your sport is the specific style. For example, if all you do is lowers airmoves. That's what you call it. It can't be freestyle, but you aren't being free with  a football. You are doing lowers airmoves/hardcore lowers. Make sense?

[Christof]

I'm so tired of this "it's free-style, so you are free to do what you want" argument, because it's just wrong. Of course, you can do what you want, but that doesn't mean you can call yourself a freestyle footballer. There is a borderline what can be considered freestyle football and what not. People certainly have different opinions about where to set this borderline.

I mean if someone is holding a football in his hands and is eating a banana while only touching the banana with the football, he is basically doing a trick involving a football; but we hopefully can agree that this does not count as freestyle football.

For me, freestyle football is about doing tricks with a football, where the ball is in the center of action. For example, doing a backflip with the ball caught between the knees does not count as freestyle football; but kicking the ball up, doing a backflip and catching the ball in midair does count as freestyle football. In other words, the football needs a purpose in a trick.

[L_I_S]

I'm so tired of this "it's free-style, so you are free to do what you want" argument, because it's just wrong. Of course, you can do what you want, but that doesn't mean you can call yourself a freestyle footballer. There is a borderline what can be considered freestyle football and what not. People certainly have different opinions about where to set this borderline.

Qft.

Also, define football tricks and be specific about the differences.

[redsforlife]

I'm so tired of this "it's free-style, so you are free to do what you want" argument, because it's just wrong. Of course, you can do what you want, but that doesn't mean you can call yourself a freestyle footballer. There is a borderline what can be considered freestyle football and what not. People certainly have different opinions about where to set this borderline.

I mean if someone is holding a football in his hands and is eating a banana while only touching the banana with the football, he is basically doing a trick involving a football; but we hopefully can agree that this does not count as freestyle football.

For me, freestyle football is about doing tricks with a football, where the ball is in the center of action. For example, doing a backflip with the ball caught between the knees does not count as freestyle football; but kicking the ball up, doing a backflip and catching the ball in midair does count as freestyle football. In other words, the football needs a purpose in a trick.

I disagree with just about everything in this except the banana reference. However, with some of the loose opinions on use of hands, it could be incorporated into freestyle. I personally think the use of hands not being permitted is acceptable as it's "football"freestyle. However, tricks don't make it freestyle. There are some cool things you can do with  a football I wouldn't necessarily consider tricks. Just cool ways to kick, juggle, or control the ball.

One other thing, most people have this mindset a freestyler is typically one person doing tricks with a football. I personally would love to see more duo or even larger group freestyle that isn't based on the individual's tricks, but more how the group or duo can creatively play the ball in whatever way the like.

Of course tricks are great, but that's not the point.


An easy way to look at this, if you look at any other sport that has a "freestyle" you literally can do whatever you like. There are not any requirements. There are just popular styles. Freestyle football should be no different.

[Christof]

I disagree with just about everything in this except the banana reference. However, with some of the loose opinions on use of hands, it could be incorporated into freestyle. I personally think the use of hands not being permitted is acceptable as it's "football"freestyle. However, tricks don't make it freestyle. There are some cool things you can do with  a football I wouldn't necessarily consider tricks. Just cool ways to kick, juggle, or control the ball.

One other thing, most people have this mindset a freestyler is typically one person doing tricks with a football. I personally would love to see more duo or even larger group freestyle that isn't based on the individual's tricks, but more how the group or duo can creatively play the ball in whatever way the like.

Of course tricks are great, but that's not the point.


An easy way to look at this, if you look at any other sport that has a "freestyle" you literally can do whatever you like. There are not any requirements. There are just popular styles. Freestyle football should be no different.

I find it weird discussing with you, because you seem to like to disagree. If you agree with the banana part, you also agree with my first paragraph, because the banana part proves the statements made in the first part.


I interpret the term "freestyle" in freestyle football as you're being free from having to play football efficiently and it's not about having to score goals. You can just do play with the ball in a way you consider beautiful / creative / spectacular. I aswell don't think hands should be used, but the use of hands could be justified with a more open interpretation of not being obliged to the rules of football (where one rule is not to use your hands).

[L_I_S]

Define football tricks and be specific about the differences.

Please ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[redsforlife]

I find it weird discussing with you, because you seem to like to disagree. If you agree with the banana part, you also agree with my first paragraph, because the banana part proves the statements made in the first part.


I interpret the term "freestyle" in freestyle football as you're being free from having to play football efficiently and it's not about having to score goals. You can just do play with the ball in a way you consider beautiful / creative / spectacular. I aswell don't think hands should be used, but the use of hands could be justified with a more open interpretation of not being obliged to the rules of football (where one rule is not to use your hands).

The difference is you have said that in your original post, you mentioned the necessity of doing tricks with a football. I don't think tricks necessarily have to be involved to be "freestyling". Tricks are just something fun to do when freestyle. If tricks are a necessity, I'd consider it football tricking, not freestyle.

I agree with your 2nd paragraph here. I word for word agree with that. I even agree with the part about the hands. It's just not something I personally enjoy training or viewing.

On agreeing with your 1st paragraph and the banana reference, there is one major difference. If the banana trick is the only trick you can do with a football, of courses you are not a football freestyler. However, if this person can actually do a few things, no matter how bad they are, they could be consider a football freestyler. They would just be a very bad one. The most basic of football freestylers just make videos of step overs and shit from what I've seen on youtube. Now, they are definitely low level, but still freestylers. There shouldn't be a standard for what a freestyler is other than they are freely doing what they like.


And no, I don't like to disagree. Some people just find it shocking that others might have a different opinion. Not really sure why. This would be a very boring place is we all just agreed. Now, at least we are talking.