Cristiano=Overrated

[TheKingNut]

There has been so much hype about Ronaldo, and rightly so for his performances in the Premiership over the past two/three years but do we have another Thierry Henry on our hands? He loves playing against teams like Wigan, Newcastle and the like but for me he goes missing when the big games come around. In both Barcelona legs, Messi proved himself to have the edge over the Portugese winger. Who can remember the Champions league Semi last season? He got found out by AC Milan. A team discovered a way to stop him so he started sulking, just the same way Henry did for France. International coaches were tactically sound enough to realise by defending deep against the frenchman, he turned in subdued, average performances without having the space in behind to exploit. Henry would then cry at news conferences complaining about this.

Until Ronaldo can take a big game by the scruff of the neck, the way greats like Zidane,Maradona,Cruyff and Beckenbauer did in the past then a question mark looms over him in my personal opinion. I'd love to see him do it, I do not in anyway have a hatred for the player, I just dislike the belief that he is already a player with which people are including in the same sentences as the greats.

[Tito]

+1 karma for that post, so true
football is starting to be about looks and this disgusts me. C.Ronaldo and Beckham are 50% skill and 50 % makeup just filthy

[Olly NZ Frestyle]

How can you call him overated, he plays in the mid and is top scorer. and he is more consistant then any other player, every game you can gaurantee he will either score or get an assist. he will prove himself against these top teams just wait  :thumbsup:

[moby]

this truley must be post of the week.

borg you better post this in that thread of yours

[TheGodEmperor]

this truley must be post of the week.

borg you better post this in that thread of yours

you know he won't. I think Ronaldo is a great player, but it is true that he hasn't proved himself against top competition...except in the Euro and World Cups. He dominates there.

[TheKingNut]

+1 karma for that post, so true
football is starting to be about looks and this disgusts me. C.Ronaldo and Beckham are 50% skill and 50 % makeup just filthy

Tito, I'm not sure about that. My point was simply that Ronaldo hasn't performed in the big games yet on a consistent basis, and please don't have a dig at my boy Becks. Beckham is a player who consistently provided for Man Utd/Real Madrid in the Champions League and for England. Do you remember when Beckham single handedly dragged England away from the clutches of the World Cup play offs by producing an heroic performance and a stunning free kick against Greece? There are too many people who believe what they read in the media. Most journalists have never played the game and for the most part are incorrect in there beliefs.

Ronaldo has still got something to prove. Totalfootball10, since when has he dominated at the Euro and World Cup? Did he dominate like Zidane when he bagged two in the final? or like Maradona when he won the World Cup by himself in 86? No he hasn't, and this is my point. I am not saying Ronaldo is not the best player in the world today, he might be, but his name cannot be said in the same breath as the greats of the game. Ronaldo still has a little to go before he gets there. Maybe he'll prove it in this years Champions League final or the Euro? I hope he does

[a;sdlfkjas;df]

he might be, but his name cannot be said in the same breath as the greats of the game

It has been very premature.  He is still only 23.

[TheGodEmperor]

+1 karma for that post, so true
football is starting to be about looks and this disgusts me. C.Ronaldo and Beckham are 50% skill and 50 % makeup just filthy

Tito, I'm not sure about that. My point was simply that Ronaldo hasn't performed in the big games yet on a consistent basis, and please don't have a dig at my boy Becks. Beckham is a player who consistently provided for Man Utd/Real Madrid in the Champions League and for England. Do you remember when Beckham single handedly dragged England away from the clutches of the World Cup play offs by producing an heroic performance and a stunning free kick against Greece? There are too many people who believe what they read in the media. Most journalists have never played the game and for the most part are incorrect in there beliefs.

Ronaldo has still got something to prove. Totalfootball10, since when has he dominated at the Euro and World Cup? Did he dominate like Zidane when he bagged two in the final? or like Maradona when he won the World Cup by himself in 86? No he hasn't, and this is my point. I am not saying Ronaldo is not the best player in the world today, he might be, but his name cannot be said in the same breath as the greats of the game. Ronaldo still has a little to go before he gets there. Maybe he'll prove it in this years Champions League final or the Euro? I hope he does

he had a great tournament in 2004, and braely anybody could take the ball off him in 2006. It was ridiculous.

[manutd.]

he might be, but his name cannot be said in the same breath as the greats of the game

It has been very premature.  He is still only 23.

Exactly. Although it's a good post, and a nice discussion, give him a break, he's still young. Messi has played in a lot of meaningful games such as U19 finals(?) and winning tons of awards. Messi has matured faster than Ronaldo I guess. The more awards won and big games Ronaldo is in, the better he'll be. Time will tell.

[TheGodEmperor]

Its not a question of faster development...although messi is better than Ronaldo was 2-3 years ago. Ronaldo used to be a player who would make a few great plays every game (usually crosses) that would change the game and sometimes win it. Now that he has become a dominant player, he has to adjust to an entirely different role. I know, because I am the kind of player C. Ronaldo was a few years ago. I dont dominate. Messi, in contrast to Ronaldo, is a naturally dominant player who has to see alot of the ball to do the same amount as Ronaldo would do with a little of the ball. I;m not saying anybody is better or worse, I'm saying Messi is more dominant by nature, and Rnaldo more efficient.

[Olly NZ Frestyle]

without ronaldo man united would be nothing

[manutd.]

I don't know about that. We've got so much talent and skill. Sure Ronaldo is our best player and can win games for us, but look how much games Tevez has won for us, and the amazing defence we got against Barcelona both games. You can't give all the credit to Ronaldo. Even he said the defence saves us.