RBSS organization 2012

[Yen]

What are your thoughts on the setup, organization, judges, livestream and all for RBSS this year?

I thought RBSS actually took a lot on board this year and decided to have some freestylers take part in the judging which was quite encouraging to see. The ball didn't seem to be much of an issue this year as we saw a lot of high quality performances out there. The livestream was actually pretty decent; more player with the ball shown rather than the crowd. The stadium and atmosphere was sick, 21,000 people wow! Apart from having Cannavaro judge creativity, (no hate on him, great football player but not the best pick to judge creativity) I thought it was a real success.

[KevinVO]

Agreed, I also loved the whole tv program setup with all the interviews and the trickpedia part. It looked very professional. Maybe the first time I ever felt that freestyle football got the recognition that it deserved on a big stage.

I also wasn't surprised to hear that RBSS will be organised on a yearly base from now on starting in Tokyo next year. I really think Red Bull is planning to put freestyle football on the same level as all their other extreme sports, which mainly take place in the US. Freestyle could be one of their 'toys' for the European market.

[vittoleon]

Remove the football players as judges for publicity stuns (its like asking lance armstrong to judge bmx, it doesnt make any sense). Apart from that the setup was AMAZING, the stream was very HQ and not lagging at all for a FREE stream. Obviously cant judge the ball since i Havent tried it. Only the commentator next to daniel should give less his opinion cause it was usually pretty bad. Making horrible calls over who will win etc.

[VRK]

everything was perfect ( EXCEPT CANNAVARO JUDGING CREATIVITY) :P :p
but next time have jerry the king lawler as commentator   

[redsforlife]

Just curious, why is everyone saying Cannavaro is such a bad judge, but no one seems to care about the bboy as a judge? I personally think those two guys should both be removed from the judging panel. I'd prefer a footballer to a bboy any day. At least a footballer can juggle. Also, I'd rather meet a footballer, and the fans will be excited about a big name footballer being there. We have to remember Red Bull must market this to soccer fans as there isn't enough freestyle only fans in the world. Palle, Touzani, and Mr. Woo were all great for judging. I think they could just go with three judges, so they don't have to find 2 to replace the footballer and the bboy.

Overall, I thought the competition was great. The venue was absolutely amazing, the live stream looked extremely professional, and the quality of freestyle was great. This is the type of competition that is going to bring outside interest to freestyle. I know for a fact that my soccer friends that I show the video to will all love it. This isn't the case for all freestyle events, but this one was special. I think the positives more than outweighed the negatives in RBSS this time. Hopefully, it will be even better next time.

[vittoleon]

Just curious, why is everyone saying Cannavaro is such a bad judge, but no one seems to care about the bboy as a judge? I personally think those two guys should both be removed from the judging panel. I'd prefer a footballer to a bboy any day. At least a footballer can juggle. Also, I'd rather meet a footballer, and the fans will be excited about a big name footballer being there. We have to remember Red Bull must market this to soccer fans as there isn't enough freestyle only fans in the world. Palle, Touzani, and Mr. Woo were all great for judging. I think they could just go with three judges, so they don't have to find 2 to replace the footballer and the bboy.

Overall, I thought the competition was great. The venue was absolutely amazing, the live stream looked extremely professional, and the quality of freestyle was great. This is the type of competition that is going to bring outside interest to freestyle. I know for a fact that my soccer friends that I show the video to will all love it. This isn't the case for all freestyle events, but this one was special. I think the positives more than outweighed the negatives in RBSS this time. Hopefully, it will be even better next time.

Letting a pro judge is one thing, letting him judge creativity is just stupid.  You cant let someone judge about that if he probably doesnt even know half the tricks. He wont know whats creative and what is just repeating old tricks..

[Yen]

Bboys have big focus on style and flow therefore they tend to be quite spot on on the decisions they make judging "style". If it was judged by another pro the judging could have been quite unpredictable.

[redsforlife]

Bboys have big focus on style and flow therefore they tend to be quite spot on on the decisions they make judging "style". If it was judged by another pro the judging could have been quite unpredictable.

Bboys vote for whichever freestyler looks more bboy. Style isn't even something we should judge. Flow possibly, but style no. The "style" that most freestylers call it is actually execution. The judging criteria should be control/difficulty, creativity, and execution. Bboys have no business near a football freestyle competition.

Vittolen- You kind of missed my point. I don't think either the bboy or a pro footballer should be a judge. The footballer will have more ideas on what is technically harder than the bboy, but only to a point. The bboy will really just judge which one flows better like a dance. That's picking favoritism between different types of freestyle. Not all freestyle is meant to flow like a dance. Anyways, my guess is Cannavaro just voted for whomever he thought was the best. He probably didn't look to see which freestyler was more creative. He doesn't know enough about freestyle to know this, so he most likely did just vote for the one he liked the most.

Switch it to just the 3 freestylers as judges.

1. Mr. Woo- Control/Difficulty
2. Touzani-Creativity
3. Palle-Execution

or just let the 3 of them pick whom they thought was the best. I actually like that even better.

[Max]

to put it short: event was mindblowing, judging was a joke. only one guy in the jury who is capeable of juding(palle) touzani and woo dont have any ideq of todays freestyle difficulty. also having categories is the worst thing ever. i heard many stupid decisions were made in the qualifications because of that. oh and i believe the ball is still crap but we had MUCH better freestylers in this years rbss than in 2010.

[Yen]

slightly off topic but is there anyone out there who has posted the qualification battles on YouTube?

[SvenF]

to put it short: event was mindblowing, judging was a joke. only one guy in the jury who is capeable of juding(palle) touzani and woo dont have any ideq of todays freestyle difficulty. also having categories is the worst thing ever. i heard many stupid decisions were made in the qualifications because of that. oh and i believe the ball is still crap but we had MUCH better freestylers in this years rbss than in 2010.

Completely agree with Max here. I think Roxrite did pretty well as a judge too. And directing this to "redforlife": Roxrite has more knowledge of freestyle than Cannavaro. Saying that you'd prefer being judged by a footballer any time than by a bboy just shows how close-minded you are. As far as I can remember, Roxrite did the correct decision in almost every of the battles, however Cannavaro just seemed to have picked a random guy..

Besides, Roxrite was there at the qualifications to take a closer look at the battles, to get to know the sport better. He talked to us, he was amongst us and informed himself. Guess where Cannavaro was that time. I also think freestyle is closer to breakdance than it is to football. Just my opinion.

Ball was still shit, I hope they change it next year.

I also think they should get rid of the criteria and just vote for whoever they think is the best.

peace

[redsforlife]

Your logic, someone disagrees with you, so they must be close minded. Good one.