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Muslims Slaughter Convert to Christianity in Tunisia
« on: Jun 06, 2012, 07:58: AM »
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Liberal talk show host Tawfiq Okasha recently appeared on "Egypt Today" airing a video of Muslims slicing a young man's head off for the crime of apostasy, in this case, the crime of converting to Christianity and refusing to renounce it. The video—be warned, it is immensely graphic—is embedded here (the actual execution appears from minute 1:13-4:00). For those who prefer not to view it, a summary follows:

A young man appears held down by masked men. His head is pulled back, with a knife to his throat. He does not struggle and appears resigned to his fate. Speaking in Arabic, the background speaker, or "narrator," chants a number of Muslim prayers and supplications, mostly condemning Christianity, which, because of the Trinity, is referred to as a polytheistic faith: "Let Allah be avenged on the polytheist apostate"; "Allah empower your religion, make it victorious against the polytheists"; "Allah, defeat the infidels at the hands of the Muslims"; "There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger."

Then, to cries of "Allahu Akbar!"—or, "God is great!"—the man holding the knife to the apostate's throat begins to slice away, even as the victim appears calmly mouthing a prayer. It takes nearly two minutes of graphic knife-carving to sever the Christian's head, which is then held aloft to more Islamic cries and slogans of victory.

Visibly distraught, Tawfiq Okasha, the host, asked: "Is this Islam? Does Islam call for this? How is Islam related to this matter?...These are the images that are disseminated throughout the electronic media in Europe and America…. Can you imagine?" Then, in reference to Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis, whose political influence has grown tremendously, he asked, "How are such people supposed to govern?"

In fact, only the other day a top Egyptian Salafi leader openly stated that no Muslim has the right to apostatize, or leave Islam, based on the canonical hadiths, including Muhammad's command, "Whoever leaves his religion, kill him." Islam's most authoritative legal manuals make crystal clear that apostasy is a capital crime, punishable by death.

The first "righteous caliph," a paragon of Muslim piety and virtue, had tens of thousands of people slaughtered—including by burning, beheading, and crucifixion—simply because they tried to break away from Islam. According to the Encyclopaedia of Islam, the most authoritative reference work on Islam in the English language, "there is unanimity that the male apostate must be put to death."

Finally, a word on the "prayers" or supplications to Allah made by the Muslim executioners in the video: these are standard and formulaic. It is not just masked, anonymous butchers who supplicate Allah as they engage in acts of evil; rather, top-ranking Muslim leaders openly invoke such hate-filled prayers.

see the vid here http://www.meforum.org/3256/tunisia-muslims-slaughter-christian-convert

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Re: Muslims Slaughter Convert to Christianity in Tunisia
« Reply #1 on: Jun 06, 2012, 01:20: PM »
Don't want to see the video but that's terrible.

I'd like to hear the opinion from a devoted Muslim on this.  Per the quote above, the Quran says you can go as far as killing someone for converting.

That's a shame if that's the case.  I know a lot of religious books have things that are not taken literally anymore.  I wonder if this is one of them.

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Re: Muslims Slaughter Convert to Christianity in Tunisia
« Reply #2 on: Jun 06, 2012, 01:29: PM »
Fucking disgusting human beings. I watched the video, and it's pretty graphic. Violence doesn't bother me usually, but in this case it's fucking disgusting. To do this for the reasons they did is terrible. Fucking hard to believe there are this disgusting of human beings in the world.
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Re: Muslims Slaughter Convert to Christianity in Tunisia
« Reply #3 on: Jun 06, 2012, 03:00: PM »
1st thing I have to say is that the people in the video don't look like people of authority and as such they have no right to execute any of the capital punishments set in Islam. So what I'm saying is that they're extremists.
2ndly the act of using a small blunt knife for beheading is COMPLETELY against the teachings of Islam. The blade should be very much sharpened and it should be one strike not hacking away slowly.
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"Why is the apostate to be executed in Islam?"
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/20327/
"Some of the rulings on apostasy and apostates"
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/14231/

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Re: Muslims Slaughter Convert to Christianity in Tunisia
« Reply #4 on: Jun 06, 2012, 03:06: PM »
I never thought it was a high power in Islam. I always assumed it was a small extremist group. However, the fact that any religion thinks beheading someone is ok means I do not approve of  it. I'm not going to say Islam is any worse or better than any other religion. That is why I choose not to have any religion.
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Re: Muslims Slaughter Convert to Christianity in Tunisia
« Reply #5 on: Jun 06, 2012, 04:47: PM »
I never thought it was a high power in Islam. I always assumed it was a small extremist group. However, the fact that any religion thinks beheading someone is ok means I do not approve of  it. I'm not going to say Islam is any worse or better than any other religion. That is why I choose not to have any religion.

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Re: Muslims Slaughter Convert to Christianity in Tunisia
« Reply #6 on: Jun 06, 2012, 04:51: PM »
Royal... I was really hoping for an answer that puts reason to this logic.

Instead, you're only issue with it is the use of a dull knife and insufficient authority.

Plenty of people switch to Islam. The religion they leave doesn't punish them because they have some common sense. God gives people a brain to make their own decisions. Why are these idiots taking matter into their own hands?

Retarded.

So as long as someone of authority uses a sharp blade, it's all good?! Disgraceful.
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Re: Muslims Slaughter Convert to Christianity in Tunisia
« Reply #7 on: Jun 06, 2012, 05:24: PM »
1st thing I have to say is that the people in the video don't look like people of authority and as such they have no right to execute any of the capital punishments set in Islam. So what I'm saying is that they're extremists.
2ndly the act of using a small blunt knife for beheading is COMPLETELY against the teachings of Islam. The blade should be very much sharpened and it should be one strike not hacking away slowly.
Lastly:
"Why is the apostate to be executed in Islam?"
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/20327/
"Some of the rulings on apostasy and apostates"
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/14231/
"The punishment for the apostate is execution. Why such harshness?"
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/12406/

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Re: Muslims Slaughter Convert to Christianity in Tunisia
« Reply #8 on: Jun 06, 2012, 05:24: PM »
should I increase the font?
or maybe I'll post the WHOLE page on here?
and increase the font...

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Re: Muslims Slaughter Convert to Christianity in Tunisia
« Reply #9 on: Jun 06, 2012, 08:29: PM »
Wrong to speak bad of Islam over what a few complete madmen do.
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Re: Muslims Slaughter Convert to Christianity in Tunisia
« Reply #10 on: Jun 07, 2012, 01:11: AM »
Royal Freakiness are you a muslim?

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Re: Muslims Slaughter Convert to Christianity in Tunisia
« Reply #11 on: Jun 07, 2012, 01:15: AM »
Royal Freakiness are you a muslim?
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