Measure the Difficulty Level of Lower Moves

[riodavid]

Hey fsers, this is just my random idea when I had nothing to do. Please refer the chart and the instructions to see how I am thinking about the measurement.

Instructions:
1. For touch, at least 2 touch will be done for each move, even for a simple juggle, INIATE - RECEIVE.
2. For no touch, at least 1 no touch will be done for each move. Because a HTW-like move is included in every moves... well, except ATW and CROSSOVER. That's why the point 3 exsists.
3. ATW, HTW, CROSSOVER are not fit for the formula.
4. difficulty = no touch + revolutions - touch x 0.5

Welcome discuss. Here's one thought in my mind, we may adjust the weigh of touch from 0.5 to another number, depending on some more detailed analysis on the importance of touches.

[L_I_S]

Since when was tatw, matw, amatw etc considered a 2 rev move?

[tbc]

Since when was tatw, matw, amatw etc considered a 2 rev move?

and beck=4? :'(

[riodavid]

for tatw/matw, the first atw is considered as one rev, the crossover is considered as another one rev
for beck, first atw, then the timo first step, then atw, then crossover, 4 revs

or maybe I should try another word instead of rev, any suggestions guys?

[Max]

this list doesnt make any sense

[ukiFS]

hows alatw 2 notouches? its htw-atw nt so its one nt, just like you wrote 1 for latw which is atw-atw nt. And there's no way difficulty difference between ahmatw/ahtatw and skatw/eatw is only 1 point 

[Liicht]

It doesnt match up!

How did you find the difficulty number from the numbers before it? Dont see the math in it.

[riodavid]

hows alatw 2 notouches? its htw-atw nt so its one nt, just like you wrote 1 for latw which is atw-atw nt. And there's no way difficulty difference between ahmatw/ahtatw and skatw/eatw is only 1 point  

I got your point, it's my bad, I should definate my terms first. Here I want to definate it as two revs without touching the ball.
 I listed some key aspects related to difficulties, and involved a simplest formula to get the point. Of course the point difference is not 100% accurate, that's why I put my thoughts here to get your opinions, we may find out different weighs, calculation methods, etc. to polish it to an generally acceptable level.

this list doesnt make any sense

it will be nice if there're replies that make sense, rather than a sentence without content.

[riodavid]

It doesnt match up!

How did you find the difficulty number from the numbers before it? Dont see the math in it.

the formula is listed at the Instructions area
4. difficulty = no touch + revolutions - touch x 0.5

[Tupac]

Just what we need! Another list!!!

[Christof]

the idea is not so bad, but there are more things that need to be considered:

for example rev htw gets the same difficulty as an atw, right? so the difficulty of the first revolution has to be separated, like:
-normal rev (as in atw)
-alternate in rev (as in htw)
-alternate out rev (as in rev htw; first revs of aatw, atatw and ahtatw)

also (at least for me) htatw is much easier than hmatw, because the first and second revolution don't interfere in htatw, but in hmatw you have to complete the first revolution more or less before you can do the second one.

[SvenF]

What do you consider as "no touch"?