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Cheating in freestyle
« on: Mar 10, 2011, 01:02: PM »
What do you consider 'cheating'?

It's funny when it comes to some peoples opinions on the subject. Do you not agree that you should do everything in your power to benefit your freestyle?
If a swimmer wears a special swim suit that makes him swim faster and every other swimmer has access to this swim suit, do you really see it as cheating?
What about when a runner wears a slightly lighter shoe compared to the runner next to him? Is he a cheater too? The runner next to him can buy the same shoes if he wants..
If a freestyler uses a smaller ball, flat ball, no shorts...is he really cheating?
Shaving your head bald will make your uppers better, is that cheating too?
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Re: Cheating in freestyle
« Reply #1 on: Mar 10, 2011, 03:47: PM »
for me there's no such a thing as cheating in fs.

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Re: Cheating in freestyle
« Reply #2 on: Mar 10, 2011, 03:51: PM »
Skora is cheating, he practises 25 hours a day.
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Re: Cheating in freestyle
« Reply #3 on: Mar 11, 2011, 12:20: AM »
You've got a point there.. Well, to be honest I think that people who say that using a flat ball is cheating are just ignorant..because personally I could not freestyle with a flat ball...it's just what you're used to, so there's no such thing as cheating.

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Re: Cheating in freestyle
« Reply #4 on: Mar 11, 2011, 01:02: AM »
I gree, flat ball change nothing it's just a used to. But for example long combo are easier for me with a monta ball as with a normal size and weight, but i prefer normal ball for nt. So they are different point of view, for me

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Re: Cheating in freestyle
« Reply #5 on: Mar 11, 2011, 01:33: AM »
Once you adapt to using a flat ball it would make some things much easier but at the expense of others.
So accusing freestylers' who use softer balls of cheating is ludicrous.

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Re: Cheating in freestyle
« Reply #6 on: Mar 11, 2011, 07:38: AM »
for me there's no such a thing as cheating in fs.
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Re: Cheating in freestyle
« Reply #7 on: Mar 11, 2011, 08:36: AM »
someone could take performance enhancing drugs.

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Re: Cheating in freestyle
« Reply #8 on: Mar 11, 2011, 01:00: PM »
Well, yeah, if for example you consider something taking drugs in order to improve faster in freestyle... fortunately that drug, in my knowledge, don't exist!  :grin:
I think it's all about the question of what you're used to. After all, every ball will fall with the same acceleration = 9.8m/s^2. So in the long run, I don't think there's any difference between the skill level of one learning tricks in that ball, and one with the fully bumped up ball. In the short term, may be the struggle in differences in touch can occur, but for the long run, I don't think a flat ball will benefit much.
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Re: Cheating in freestyle
« Reply #9 on: Mar 11, 2011, 01:56: PM »
its not cheating. its just easier to do hard tricks with no shoes and smaller ball... the hitpoint of the ball is smaler and that makes it harder. but when you get that perfect touch, its way easier to get around...


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Re: Cheating in freestyle
« Reply #10 on: Mar 11, 2011, 07:26: PM »
People that are practicing freestyle on a regular basic is cheaters imo.

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Re: Cheating in freestyle
« Reply #11 on: Mar 12, 2011, 02:49: PM »
smaller ball = smaller revolutions = easier to get around = less time to make rotations = landing tricks.

If I fsed with a size 3 ball, you guys would call me a cheater (Y) and if you didn't, and I landed 4 atw (nt) before someone did it with a normal sized ball, would I still have the right to name it? What if I also did it without shoes?

There is cheating, no one of you will change my mind. "FREEstyle" is used loosely, I don't mind people that use 4.5 size ball and wear no shoes, but they will never get the same respect to someone who uses size 5 and shoes.
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