Freestyle USA part 2

[Max]

why is it retarded? In my opinion a well executed crossover can look good in every situation plus, if you are a beginner, this trick can help to improve your strength

no it wont imcrease your strength. it is more the opposite. if you use crossover instead of htw to connect your combos you wont have the strength to do a combo with the same length without using crossovers.

And simon your comment is just plain stupid. of course michryc and petike are fucking pros and they dont use crossover the way my post was meant. i dunno about petikes long combos though, not that it would be important because he is one of the best allrounders in the world.

[Fye]

i loved this vid!!!!!!!! not just because of the skills, the music also...!! great choise mate  
im sick of hip hop music   there must should be a way t make freestylers listen to music :P NO OFENCE TO ANYBODY!!! haha

[Philippe]

why is it retarded? In my opinion a well executed crossover can look good in every situation plus, if you are a beginner, this trick can help to improve your strength

no it wont imcrease your strength. it is more the opposite. if you use crossover instead of htw to connect your combos you wont have the strength to do a combo with the same length without using crossovers.

you don't understand what I tried to say:
A beginner is more likely to have to rescue his combo than pros. That means that if you e.g. a 5trick combo and can only rescue your combo with a crossover then do so in order to be able to do one or two htws more... it's good for your strength and your condition, of course when you don't need to do one, then don't do it!

[Max]

why is it retarded? In my opinion a well executed crossover can look good in every situation plus, if you are a beginner, this trick can help to improve your strength

no it wont imcrease your strength. it is more the opposite. if you use crossover instead of htw to connect your combos you wont have the strength to do a combo with the same length without using crossovers.

you don't understand what I tried to say:
A beginner is more likely to have to rescue his combo than pros. That means that if you e.g. a 5trick combo and can only rescue your combo with a crossover then do so in order to be able to do one or two htws more... it's good for your strength and your condition, of course when you don't need to do one, then don't do it!

and this doesnt increase your strength. because if you rescue the combo with a crossover you have some short time to recover plus the crossover atw combo isnt as exhausting as the htw atw combo is. if you're a beginner and strictly dont use crossovers in your long combos you will increase your strength and stamina way faster than with crossovers.

[Philippe]

I think it's better performing a combo including many htws but with one or two crossover than a combo with no crossover but way less htws
apart from that I mentioned only to execute this kinds of tricks in order to rescue a combo you would drop plus the more tricks in a combo, the better gets your balance and stuff

[Max]

I think it's better performing a combo including many htws but with one or two crossover than a combo with no crossover but way less htws
apart from that I mentioned only to execute this kinds of tricks in order to rescue a combo you would drop plus the more tricks in a combo, the better gets your balance and stuff

with rescuing a combo i didnt meant rescuing it from dropping ( you cannot rescue a combo you would drop with a crossover). with rescuing i meant to continue it when you couldnt continue it with htw or other full revolution tricks. and i dunno what you mean with balance and stuff but it doesnt seem important if you look at russian freestylers who can do fucking long combos and ignore crossover.

[tbc]

michryc most adds matw nt to co. so thats crazy.
@max. i find htw atw more exhaustive than atw co. but as htw atw is a part of my style my flow breaks when i do a co.

[Max]

michryc most adds matw nt to co. so thats crazy.
@max. i find htw atw more exhaustive than atw co. but as htw atw is a part of my style my flow breaks when i do a co.

thats only a matter of what you are used to, it doesnt make crossover a harder trick in general.

[Tupac]

Guys this crossover thing is outta control.

Guys, if the cross over is followed by a no touch it CAN look good but there's only a few that can do it.
No offense patrick but his co-atatw nt isn't smooth, same when sanders (young) does co-matw nt, it just doesn't look nice. imo.

and training atw-co-htw-co and combos like that are worthless. Noobs spend hours training them and for what? Nothing. You don't do atw-co later in fs unless you wanna look like a fucktard zebra trying to molest a dog that was raped by an elephant, and you know those elephants, they never forget, never forget the abuse they went through at the zoo and the crocodile dick all up in there face...



The point being crossovers are useless. Like Max said look at the russians, wanna know why the improve so fast? They don't learn stupid shit.

[SimonFS]

why is it retarded? In my opinion a well executed crossover can look good in every situation plus, if you are a beginner, this trick can help to improve your strength

no it wont imcrease your strength. it is more the opposite. if you use crossover instead of htw to connect your combos you wont have the strength to do a combo with the same length without using crossovers.

And simon your comment is just plain stupid. of course michryc and petike are fucking pros and they dont use crossover the way my post was meant. i dunno about petikes long combos though, not that it would be important because he is one of the best allrounders in the world.

Don't call my post stupid when it's you who generalizes crossovers. You clearly stated in your post above mine that you think crossover is a trick for beginners and noobs, and that there is no point in training it.
IMO i think that crossover is a great way to make your body 'used to' longer combos at first. Also when you have been training crossover from the beginning it: 1) Of course it improves your tatw and other cross nt tricks. 2) It will be easier to increase the level of skill in the combos you use crossover like MichRyc and Petike does it. Therefore i dont think crossover is as useless as you guys make it sound.

This is just my opinion, and it will probably not change yours, but thats just how i see it

And Samuel are you retarded? Serious question. I see you post nothing but stupid shit everywhere.

"and training atw-co-htw-co and combos like that are worthless. Noobs spend hours training them and for what? Nothing. You don't do atw-co later in fs unless you wanna look like a fucktard zebra trying to molest a dog that was raped by an elephant, and you know those elephants, they never forget, never forget the abuse they went through at the zoo and the crocodile dick all up in there face..."

and

"Guys, if the cross over is followed by a no touch it CAN look good but there's only a few that can do it."
Yeah, cause doing co-matw nt is really hardcore as fuck. Almost as hard as skora nt if you think about it!

Jesus christ ..

[Tupac]

why is it retarded? In my opinion a well executed crossover can look good in every situation plus, if you are a beginner, this trick can help to improve your strength

no it wont imcrease your strength. it is more the opposite. if you use crossover instead of htw to connect your combos you wont have the strength to do a combo with the same length without using crossovers.

And simon your comment is just plain stupid. of course michryc and petike are fucking pros and they dont use crossover the way my post was meant. i dunno about petikes long combos though, not that it would be important because he is one of the best allrounders in the world.

Don't call my post stupid when it's you who generalizes crossovers. You clearly stated in your post above mine that you think crossover is a trick for beginners and noobs, and that there is no point in training it.
IMO i think that crossover is a great way to make your body 'used to' longer combos at first. Also when you have been training crossover from the beginning it: 1) Of course it improves your tatw and other cross nt tricks. 2) It will be easier to increase the level of skill in the combos you use crossover like MichRyc and Petike does it. Therefore i dont think crossover is as useless as you guys make it sound.

This is just my opinion, and it will probably not change yours, but thats just how i see it

And Samuel are you retarded? Serious question. I see you post nothing but stupid shit everywhere.

"and training atw-co-htw-co and combos like that are worthless. Noobs spend hours training them and for what? Nothing. You don't do atw-co later in fs unless you wanna look like a fucktard zebra trying to molest a dog that was raped by an elephant, and you know those elephants, they never forget, never forget the abuse they went through at the zoo and the crocodile dick all up in there face..."

and

"Guys, if the cross over is followed by a no touch it CAN look good but there's only a few that can do it."
Yeah, cause doing co-matw nt is really hardcore as fuck. Almost as hard as skora nt if you think about it!

Jesus christ ..

It's funny since you call me retarded when should not start a sentence with "And." Also, "serious question(.)" is a sentence fragment.
It's useless training atw-co-atw-co. If you can find me any hardcore fser doing that in the middle of combos be my guest.

I SAID some make it LOOK good. I said absolutely 0 about difficulty. You yourself said Petike makes it look good did you not?
 You should learn to read better and not put words in peoples mouth, jesus christ...

My point is I'm not going to waste time learning atw-htw-co because I think it looks ugly. If you read Max's post better you'd realize he was saying it pointless learning combos like that since you will eventually get to connecting combos with atw/hatw/htw.
Cross overs don't build strength either. Not nearly as much as atw-htw-atw.

[SimonFS]

why is it retarded? In my opinion a well executed crossover can look good in every situation plus, if you are a beginner, this trick can help to improve your strength

no it wont imcrease your strength. it is more the opposite. if you use crossover instead of htw to connect your combos you wont have the strength to do a combo with the same length without using crossovers.

And simon your comment is just plain stupid. of course michryc and petike are fucking pros and they dont use crossover the way my post was meant. i dunno about petikes long combos though, not that it would be important because he is one of the best allrounders in the world.

Don't call my post stupid when it's you who generalizes crossovers. You clearly stated in your post above mine that you think crossover is a trick for beginners and noobs, and that there is no point in training it.
IMO i think that crossover is a great way to make your body 'used to' longer combos at first. Also when you have been training crossover from the beginning it: 1) Of course it improves your tatw and other cross nt tricks. 2) It will be easier to increase the level of skill in the combos you use crossover like MichRyc and Petike does it. Therefore i dont think crossover is as useless as you guys make it sound.

This is just my opinion, and it will probably not change yours, but thats just how i see it

And Samuel are you retarded? Serious question. I see you post nothing but stupid shit everywhere.

"and training atw-co-htw-co and combos like that are worthless. Noobs spend hours training them and for what? Nothing. You don't do atw-co later in fs unless you wanna look like a fucktard zebra trying to molest a dog that was raped by an elephant, and you know those elephants, they never forget, never forget the abuse they went through at the zoo and the crocodile dick all up in there face..."

and

"Guys, if the cross over is followed by a no touch it CAN look good but there's only a few that can do it."
Yeah, cause doing co-matw nt is really hardcore as fuck. Almost as hard as skora nt if you think about it!

Jesus christ ..

It's funny since you call me retarded when should not start a sentence with "And." Also, "serious question(.)" is a sentence fragment.
It's useless training atw-co-atw-co. If you can find me any hardcore fser doing that in the middle of combos be my guest.

I SAID some make it LOOK good. I said absolutely 0 about difficulty. You yourself said Petike makes it look good did you not?
 You should learn to read better and not put words in peoples mouth, jesus christ...

My point is I'm not going to waste time training htw-co, atw-co-atw, etc.

First of all, I havent said anything about a hardcore fs'er doing atw-co-atw-co in a combo, I don't know where you get that from. You said and i quote: "Guys, if the cross over is followed by a no touch it CAN look good but there's only a few that can do it." So now its apparently a matter of style. Only a few could do co-matw nt with good style? Hmm. I guess there's maybe +1000 that could do it in the fs community. More than 'a few' right?
Second, its 100 % up to you if you're going to train crossover. I just point out why it could be a good idea, and why it isnt useless as you said it was. If you too think Petike makes crossover look good, why do you say its useless? Maybe they are to YOUR freestyle, but again you guys are generalizing the fuck out of it.

EDIT: Since you've modified your post i will answer you again here: I havent said that crossover build strength have I? Basically this all comes down to opinion. You don't wanna do crossovers thats your choice. But don't say they are completely useless in freestyle.