Football Freestyle stars Billy Wingrove & Jeremy Lynch for Fifa Ballon D'or

[PannaFootballTube]

Lets just pay respect to the guys that made it!

[JonKonik]

Agree with Tom, these guys are consistent too, imagine if they had any drops.

[anhkhoashevakt]

I completely agree with Tom.
The fact that I don't like either of them, Jeremy more than Billy, as persons shouldn't mean I don't think this is a good performance, because it is.
Yes, I agree that Andrew and Luki will make a more varied show, but guess what? 1/The things the 2 guys above did are more entertaining for non freestylers (let's NOT forget that, because realistically, that's how freestyler earn their money!), and 2/Although Andrew and Luki's show will be more varied, I doubt that they will have zero drop. Take Andrew for example. He's an insane allrounder and very consistent, yet on the battle with him vs. JF on TV, he lost. Why? Because he has about 3 drops while JF had none! Even if your tricks are way better, when you drop the ball, it'll lower your performance to the non freestyler's eye (let's not forget that, again. That's you main type of audience!).
The fact that some of you said that any of the freestyler here can do this just show that you have never been on a stage, in front of the whole audience in an atmosphere that can literally crush you to pieces, and perform tricks with 100% accuracy and total control. (I'm not trying to back them up or anything, it's just the truth) And not only that, you have to worry about other things: eye contact, gestures, interaction with audience... Many of you will say "oh, but that's not part of freestyle". Well, guess what? Freestyle is literally equals to performance. Without performance freestyle doesn't have a greater purpose, besides posting videos on the net and waiting for people to comment: "Wow you're a freaking beast!", which will not bring you money. No matter what kind of freestyler you are, in the end, you just have to perform. So the sooner you realize this, the happier and less frustrated you'll be.

All that aside, the fact that they always do the same choreography in every performance bores me out a little. I always hope I'll see new thing from them like better uppers or even some ATWs will be nice.

[Adi]

Hahaha, we actually have people hating on this.  What a joke!

This was fucking brilliant.  For once, we didn't have our eyes on Messi and Ronaldo.  Instead, THEY were watching and smiling.

Fucking great to see freestyle on this stage.  Congrats to them! 

[Lucaso]

Pfffff... sorry guys but I dont give a shit about these two... I dont like their performances, freestyle, personality or however you call it... it is connected to each other. If you are dickhead nobody will ever like your freestyle even if you would pay for that...


And if do you think this is exactly what people want to see you are wrong. People just want to be entertained. And who tells just push ups and synchronized crap is entertaining? Pche, proper combo, simple transitions, smooth uppers and average SD. I see millions of replacements...
Reason of drops is the fact that player wants to show sth new sth great what he is not sure with. Because with more LPs player will become more boring with all the same stuff... If Andrew would stay with his routine and show it everywhere he has no drops.
Lets be honest and admit that everyone of you here would be able to do this performance for first try without any practicing. Dont you wanna see Ronaldo, Messi or others watching you instead of B+J? So now tell me what is entertaining!!!

So for me this was just marketing fight among agents of freestylers who would get this performance. Unfortunately these two got it and we should cry there wasnt someone who really deserves it and can show "Freestyle Football" in its best way.

[Lucaso]

Ufff... sorry guys... I didnt want to go so long but words were coming and coming...

[samfs]

thank you lucaso..that was exactly what I, and a few others, were trying to say! Now that some well known person has said this, more people will agree. It is great that "freestylers" got the opportunity to do this, but Billy and jeremy didn't deserve for sure.

[Jak]

Pfffff... sorry guys but I dont give a shit about these two... I dont like their performances, freestyle, personality or however you call it... it is connected to each other. If you are dickhead nobody will ever like your freestyle even if you would pay for that...


And if do you think this is exactly what people want to see you are wrong. People just want to be entertained. And who tells just push ups and synchronized crap is entertaining? Pche, proper combo, simple transitions, smooth uppers and average SD. I see millions of replacements...
Reason of drops is the fact that player wants to show sth new sth great what he is not sure with. Because with more LPs player will become more boring with all the same stuff... If Andrew would stay with his routine and show it everywhere he has no drops.
Lets be honest and admit that everyone of you here would be able to do this performance for first try without any practicing. Dont you wanna see Ronaldo, Messi or others watching you instead of B+J? So now tell me what is entertaining!!!

So for me this was just marketing fight among agents of freestylers who would get this performance. Unfortunately these two got it and we should cry there wasnt someone who really deserves it and can show "Freestyle Football" in its best way.

This.

[JamieNeit]

i thought that was awsome. massive respect

[anhkhoashevakt]

Pfffff... sorry guys but I dont give a shit about these two... I dont like their performances, freestyle, personality or however you call it... it is connected to each other. If you are dickhead nobody will ever like your freestyle even if you would pay for that...


And if do you think this is exactly what people want to see you are wrong. People just want to be entertained. And who tells just push ups and synchronized crap is entertaining? Pche, proper combo, simple transitions, smooth uppers and average SD. I see millions of replacements...
Reason of drops is the fact that player wants to show sth new sth great what he is not sure with. Because with more LPs player will become more boring with all the same stuff... If Andrew would stay with his routine and show it everywhere he has no drops.
Lets be honest and admit that everyone of you here would be able to do this performance for first try without any practicing. Dont you wanna see Ronaldo, Messi or others watching you instead of B+J? So now tell me what is entertaining!!!

So for me this was just marketing fight among agents of freestylers who would get this performance. Unfortunately these two got it and we should cry there wasnt someone who really deserves it and can show "Freestyle Football" in its best way.

To each his own I guess.
But about the connection between boringness vs. drops, i have to completely disagree with you.
Look at JK for example. The guy renew himself frequently, comes up with brilliant things time after time, and still remains very stable and no drops.
And I totally agree that when freestyler drops the ball it's because he wanna try something brilliant, but we have to ask this question again: Do the people watching (mostly non freestylers) love it? They don't know freestyle, they don't know what the freestylers are trying to do! The only thing they see is that the freestyler drop the ball, and that's final. Do you think people will be entertained by that, especially a formal crowd like this? Well, sorry to argue, but I just can't bring myself to agree.
And once again, I seriously don't think anyone here can do that routine 1st try without practicing. All of you always say the tricks are easy, and I agree. The tricks themselves are easy, separately (this word is the key: separately). But i really doubt anyone here can do the sequence from 2:18 to 3:02 perfectly at first try without any drop and practicing beforehand, plus on that kind of atmosphere.   
It's really ironic that I'm doing this, because I have always hated those two guys as person, especially Jeremy he's no more than a dickhead. But we have to remain composed and focused, as well as retaining our open mindedness in order to perceive some of the good that this performance actually has: the calmness in pressure, the interactions with the audience (which is, of course, not the tricks or the excessive dancing, which are f!cking ugly in my eyes)... and then trying to encorporate that into our own performance. Sometimes it's all we need to actually improve our performance and can even sometimes improve our ability to recruit non freestylers into our cause. A cobra, although can bite people to death with its venom, is actually a very important organism in the ecosystem. We just don't annihilate the whole cobra population because it can bite us to death right? Same thing applies here.

[Tupac]

I have to agree that it was a flawless performance, but at what cost? They did nothing difficult, it doesn't take long to perfect an easy performance like that... It didn't look like the audience was entertained much because of their facial expression. (i showed friends and they were bored also)
I've done a few large events (blackhawks parade, airshow, ribfest) and even though my entire "routine" is uppers (apart from the ducking-cross over and sole stall) i always get the crowd "wtf" reaction. (rollers.)

I don't judge an LP by the amount of drops, I judge it by the crowd reaction. Too me, these guys didn't achieve that.

[anhkhoashevakt]

I have to agree that it was a flawless performance, but at what cost? They did nothing difficult, it doesn't take long to perfect an easy performance like that... It didn't look like the audience was entertained much because of their facial expression. (i showed friends and they were bored also)
I've done a few large events (blackhawks parade, airshow, ribfest) and even though my entire "routine" is uppers (apart from the ducking-cross over and sole stall) i always get the crowd "wtf" reaction. (rollers.)

I don't judge an LP by the amount of drops, I judge it by the crowd reaction. Too me, these guys didn't achieve that.

May be you didn't notice, but this is a formal event. They are not suppose to be showing much reaction (do you ever see any "wtf" reaction in like an Oscar celabration for example?). Look at the suits and the atmosphere. It's not an outdoor event with normal people in informal clothing and a light hearted attitude gathering around. This is some serious stuff.
Your friends have seen your freestyle and knows how good one can be at fs, therefore they won't be interested in a show like this (I actually devise a term for that and it's called "previous exposure bias"). But people who actually watching it for the first time without any previous exposure to freestyle (again, the non freestyler emphasis here) are going to be impressed by it. Heck, by looking at Messi or C.Ronaldo's face, you see they're impressed, and they've done some freestyle stuff themselves (Ronaldo can do TATW, MATW and almost AATW for example).