Ball size.

[tbc]

Just wondering if i practice with a small ball to polish some skills, does it work? i heard latw and alatw are much easier with a monta or i can do longer/faster combos with it. Can i prepare myself and work on my legs and later move to a normal size 5 ball? would it help? anyone here shifted back to normal size 5 ball after using monta/size 4.5 ball? please share.

I hope this is the right section - its not ball help i am asking about.

[L_I_S]

I shift between both sizes sometimes. Both seem the same for me, but that could be because I have unessesarily big revolutions for moves like alatw, latw etc.
For long combos, I'd rather use a bigger ball since the touches don't have to be as precise as when you're using a smaller ball.

[Liicht]

small balls 

[alexfs]

small balls 

[gkikas]

your mom's got small balls.

[brynjar]

I used to use monta ball all the time, but then I switched over to 5 size ball, because I think that`s more "acceptable". But monta ball sometimes, when trying hard tricks such as rsatw, patw and so on

[samfs]

i can do tricks easier with a size 5 ball now, but some tricks that need fast speed like almatws i like to do with my monta. alatw and latw i can do with size 5, much easier cuz the touch is better.

[Fye]

I shift between both sizes sometimes. Both seem the same for me, but that could be because I have unessesarily big revolutions for moves like alatw, latw etc.
For long combos, I'd rather use a bigger ball since the touches don't have to be as precise as when you're using a smaller ball.

The ball thing is to stupid, and what LIS said is the best example, how you can say is easyer freestyle with a monta ball, is the same, its just about be used to the ball... for example the first time i used the monta ball, was like an a nightmare, i touched it like 4 days before rbss, and I had to train hard to be confortable with it... then like one week ago i had to use a normal ball again for a gatorade competition, and was a lot easyer do tricks like satw, amatw etc, but with monta ball is easyer do tricks like ahmatw, patw etc, another thing is that big balls make easyer do long combos, like LIS said.
So i think the reason for this thread is akim`s videos, and the only thing i have to say is that akim is awesome, and doesnt matter what ball he use, the think is that he is not wearing shoes, and i think he is like borezg from kuwait he cant do proper lowers with shoes

[Alex17]

but like you said, ahmatw's etc are easier? if you said so......
i personally don't like montas but if i had to like rbss, then heck it....lol

[anhkhoashevakt]

Just nevermind the ball! Just do all you can with one size, and if you have to use the other, it'll just take like 1-2 days to get used to it. Not a big deal at all.

However,
If you guys really wanna talk about that matter from the root, it all began with gravity. If you guys ever taken any physics class, you guys probably heard of "g", the acceleration due to gravity. Well, guess what? On Earth, "g" is the same everywhere, any time! It always equals to 9.81 m/s^2. That means everything, no matter what size (unless the drag due to air resistance is so high) will always fall at the same rate.
Now because the balls have relatively the same sizes (one is 4.5 the other 5) it's not a big deal of difference in the falling of the ball.

OK, when we're clear of that, other parameters can be considered,
Like LIS said, he had "unnecessary" big and predetermined revolutions around the ball, and because of that, it makes complete sense why he prefers size 5 for combos. The surface area of contact of a size 5 ball is larger than that of a size 4.5, and because all things fall at the same rate, and LIS's leg is always moving in a constant predetermined path, maximum contact = maximum ability to control the ball. That's why he prefers size 5 for long combos.

For the guys who don't have the "predetermined" path of revolution like him, it'll be beneficial to use a size 4.5, because you can cheat your way around the revolution. Since the balls are falling at the same rate, one with a smaller area will be easier for your leg to get around. The matter of the size of the revolution is more at work here, and less for the surface area.

The point I'm tryna make here is that, because everybody's different, you can't say that one can do better tricks with a 4.5 ball without looking at his revolution (which complicates matters because we don't have time to do that for like everyone), and even if so, cheating your way around the revolutions isn't nice! It's just better to just forget all about it and focus on learning your tricks. Any kind of ball that you want should do! After all, "g" is constant!

And so, that's taking matters of the balls from the root. If you understand it, great. If not, just follow my advice above: "Nevermind the ball! Just do all you can with one size, and if you have to use the other, it'll just take like 1-2 days to get used to it. Not a big deal at all."

[Miran Pirner]

Only the old Monta balls are truly size 4.5, the new ones, including the RBSS one, are only size 4.5 "on paper", but in reality are without a doubt size 4.

[L_I_S]

Just nevermind the ball! Just do all you can with one size, and if you have to use the other, it'll just take like 1-2 days to get used to it. Not a big deal at all.

However,
If you guys really wanna talk about that matter from the root, it all began with gravity. If you guys ever taken any physics class, you guys probably heard of "g", the acceleration due to gravity. Well, guess what? On Earth, "g" is the same everywhere, any time! It always equals to 9.81 m/s^2. That means everything, no matter what size (unless the drag due to air resistance is so high) will always fall at the same rate.
Now because the balls have relatively the same sizes (one is 4.5 the other 5) it's not a big deal of difference in the falling of the ball.

OK, when we're clear of that, other parameters can be considered,
Like LIS said, he had "unnecessary" big and predetermined revolutions around the ball, and because of that, it makes complete sense why he prefers size 5 for combos. The surface area of contact of a size 5 ball is larger than that of a size 4.5, and because all things fall at the same rate, and LIS's leg is always moving in a constant predetermined path, maximum contact = maximum ability to control the ball. That's why he prefers size 5 for long combos.

For the guys who don't have the "predetermined" path of revolution like him, it'll be beneficial to use a size 4.5, because you can cheat your way around the revolution. Since the balls are falling at the same rate, one with a smaller area will be easier for your leg to get around. The matter of the size of the revolution is more at work here, and less for the surface area.

The point I'm tryna make here is that, because everybody's different, you can't say that one can do better tricks with a 4.5 ball without looking at his revolution (which complicates matters because we don't have time to do that for like everyone), and even if so, cheating your way around the revolutions isn't nice! It's just better to just forget all about it and focus on learning your tricks. Any kind of ball that you want should do! After all, "g" is constant!

And so, that's taking matters of the balls from the root. If you understand it, great. If not, just follow my advice above: "Nevermind the ball! Just do all you can with one size, and if you have to use the other, it'll just take like 1-2 days to get used to it. Not a big deal at all."

Great explanation. +1