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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #216 on: Jan 07, 2011, 07:30: AM »
No it doesn't suck
it's giving that person a more positive perspective on his/her life.
Well, that child goes to heaven then. All children are born sinless, it's the parents who make them Christian, Jew, Hindu etc...
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #217 on: Jan 07, 2011, 09:09: PM »
Who controls birth defects in your religion? God?

Its also a lesson to the people around the person who is defected

:) The other people should be thank ful that they were not born like this and as for the child , goes to heaven
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #218 on: Jan 08, 2011, 12:46: AM »
Who controls birth defects in your religion? God?
would like to know what is your opinion about this, who controls birth defects?
This was my main reason to leave all organised religions to others. When I was Christian I thought that Satan that did things like that...I refuse to believe that God would test people in such a way.
As to who controls birth defects, that is unknown in the agnostic theist belief system.

No it doesn't suck
it's giving that person a more positive perspective on his/her life.
Well, that child goes to heaven then. All children are born sinless, it's the parents who make them Christian, Jew, Hindu etc...
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Hopefully it doesn't happen to you, but if it did I'm sure you wouldn't be as positive as you are being now.
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #219 on: Jan 08, 2011, 04:47: AM »
Who controls birth defects in your religion? God?
would like to know what is your opinion about this, who controls birth defects?
This was my main reason to leave all organised religions to others. When I was Christian I thought that Satan that did things like that...I refuse to believe that God would test people in such a way.
As to who controls birth defects, that is unknown in the agnostic theist belief system.

No it doesn't suck
it's giving that person a more positive perspective on his/her life.
Well, that child goes to heaven then. All children are born sinless, it's the parents who make them Christian, Jew, Hindu etc...
 :great:
Hopefully it doesn't happen to you, but if it did I'm sure you wouldn't be as positive as you are being now.

Its not just a test
In Islam we believe everything happens for a reason. A reason we might not know but we believe that anything that happen(good or bad) is Gods will and he knows better than us

(for example a kid that dies young it is a bad thing from our prospective but what if when the kid grew up he will be a sinner, so i think its better for him to die young and go to heaven rather than being a sinner)   

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #220 on: Jan 08, 2011, 07:25: AM »
Who controls birth defects in your religion? God?
would like to know what is your opinion about this, who controls birth defects?
This was my main reason to leave all organised religions to others. When I was Christian I thought that Satan that did things like that...I refuse to believe that God would test people in such a way.
As to who controls birth defects, that is unknown in the agnostic theist belief system.

No it doesn't suck
it's giving that person a more positive perspective on his/her life.
Well, that child goes to heaven then. All children are born sinless, it's the parents who make them Christian, Jew, Hindu etc...
 :great:
Hopefully it doesn't happen to you, but if it did I'm sure you wouldn't be as positive as you are being now.

Its not just a test
In Islam we believe everything happens for a reason. A reason we might not know but we believe that anything that happen(good or bad) is Gods will and he knows better than us

(for example a kid that dies young it is a bad thing from our prospective but what if when the kid grew up he will be a sinner, so i think its better for him to die young and go to heaven rather than being a sinner)  
exactly
the recording of good and bad deeds starts when a person reaches puberty
You have to think positive
Also, when you're sick, your supplications are more likely to be answered because you are more sincere in your supplications.
but of course, you don't wish to be sick. There is a supplication to ask Allah to make your life easy and not to be overburdened or tried too much in this life. I can't remember the words.
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #221 on: Jan 08, 2011, 07:59: AM »
You can also check these links:
Benefits of believers’ trials
"Why does Allaah burden the believers who do many acts of worship with sickness and other trials, when the sinners are enjoying all the good things in life?"
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/12099/

A righteous woman is suffering trials and is asking why
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/22798/

This world is the place of trials and tribulations
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/13205/

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #222 on: Jan 08, 2011, 10:13: AM »
You can also check these links:
Benefits of believers’ trials
"Why does Allaah burden the believers who do many acts of worship with sickness and other trials, when the sinners are enjoying all the good things in life?"
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/12099/

A righteous woman is suffering trials and is asking why
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/22798/

This world is the place of trials and tribulations
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/13205/


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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #223 on: Jan 09, 2011, 04:23: AM »
Who controls birth defects in your religion? God?
would like to know what is your opinion about this, who controls birth defects?
This was my main reason to leave all organised religions to others. When I was Christian I thought that Satan that did things like that...I refuse to believe that God would test people in such a way.
As to who controls birth defects, that is unknown in the agnostic theist belief system.

No it doesn't suck
it's giving that person a more positive perspective on his/her life.
Well, that child goes to heaven then. All children are born sinless, it's the parents who make them Christian, Jew, Hindu etc...
 :great:
Hopefully it doesn't happen to you, but if it did I'm sure you wouldn't be as positive as you are being now.

Its not just a test
In Islam we believe everything happens for a reason. A reason we might not know but we believe that anything that happen(good or bad) is Gods will and he knows better than us

(for example a kid that dies young it is a bad thing from our prospective but what if when the kid grew up he will be a sinner, so i think its better for him to die young and go to heaven rather than being a sinner)   

Thats pathetic!
who the hell knows who is what in the future,when they are young?
GOD? thats bs!
I respect every religion, even though im an atheist, but born a catholic.
For example, if this so called "god" that the majority religion has, 1 god or mulitiple gods, there is always a problem on the believer saying, well if we knew he was going to be a sinner, its better for him to die young, than to be sinner. What a so called "all knowing" god to know this, and let this happen. Why let this young sinner be born at all?

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #224 on: Jan 09, 2011, 10:23: PM »
Who controls birth defects in your religion? God?
would like to know what is your opinion about this, who controls birth defects?
This was my main reason to leave all organised religions to others. When I was Christian I thought that Satan that did things like that...I refuse to believe that God would test people in such a way.
As to who controls birth defects, that is unknown in the agnostic theist belief system.

No it doesn't suck
it's giving that person a more positive perspective on his/her life.
Well, that child goes to heaven then. All children are born sinless, it's the parents who make them Christian, Jew, Hindu etc...
 :great:
Hopefully it doesn't happen to you, but if it did I'm sure you wouldn't be as positive as you are being now.

Its not just a test
In Islam we believe everything happens for a reason. A reason we might not know but we believe that anything that happen(good or bad) is Gods will and he knows better than us

(for example a kid that dies young it is a bad thing from our prospective but what if when the kid grew up he will be a sinner, so i think its better for him to die young and go to heaven rather than being a sinner)   

Thats pathetic!
who the hell knows who is what in the future,when they are young?
GOD? thats bs!
I respect every religion, even though im an atheist, but born a catholic.
For example, if this so called "god" that the majority religion has, 1 god or mulitiple gods, there is always a problem on the believer saying, well if we knew he was going to be a sinner, its better for him to die young, than to be sinner. What a so called "all knowing" god to know this, and let this happen. Why let this young sinner be born at all?

I respect your opinion
can you tell me what do you believe in?
and btw if there was no god how did the world start?

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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #225 on: Jan 10, 2011, 02:08: AM »
Well, as most atheists would say our universe began with the Big Bang. Scientists are trying to find what there was before the Big Bang wich is extremely tricky. The Big Bang was caused by 2 colliding Branes, to find more information about that you can read about the M-theory because I'm not going to type out a ton of evidence when it most likely won't matter anyway.

One experiment "proving" the Big Bang would be the echoes of it wich can be heard through radio waves. This was discovered on accident by two scientists trying to discover something else wich I can't remember.

Also, there never was "nothing" as some people seem to think. There has always been energy. Wich in my opinion could lead to events like the Big Bang.
Sure, it's possible that God created the Big Bang. But the chances of that being true are extremely slim, the chances of it being the M-theory makes much more sense than saying that something that has been made up by us thousands of years ago and has nothing to back itself up.



If God was all-knowing he would know who would turn into an atheist, christian or whatever religion since they are his creations. If this world is a test then it's pure luck since people raised in a christian family will most likely be christian, atheist family atheist, etc.

Anyway I respect peoples beliefs. It makes me sad though that people believe I should go to hell because I've been raised in an atheist family. Even if I wanted to convert I wouldn't have a choice. Especially not now since I've done alot of research and a God wouldn't make sense to me the same as atheism doesn't make sense to you.





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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #226 on: Jan 10, 2011, 04:11: AM »
i am religious and i am not against the Big Bang. Nor is it contradictory to anything i believe.
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Re: Religion Thread
« Reply #227 on: Jan 10, 2011, 04:41: AM »
Well, as most would say atheists our universe began with the Big Bang. Scientists are trying to find what there was before the Big Bang wich is extremely tricky. The Big Bang was caused by 2 colliding Branes, to find more information about that you can read about the M-theory because I'm not going to type out a ton of evidence when it most likely won't matter anyway.

One experiment "proving" the Big Bang would be the echoes of it wich can be heard through radio waves. This was discovered on accident by two scientists trying to discover something else wich I can't remember.

Also, there never was "nothing" as some people seem to think. There has always been energy. Wich in my opinion could lead to events like the Big Bang.
Sure, it's possible that God created the Big Bang. But the chances of that being true are extremely slim, the chances of it being the M-theory makes much more sense than saying that something that has been made up by us thousands of years ago and has nothing to back itself up.



If God was all-knowing he would know who would turn into an atheist, christian or whatever religion since they are his creations. If this world is a test then it's pure luck since people raised in a christian family will most likely be christian, atheist family atheist, etc.

Anyway I respect peoples beliefs. It makes me sad though that people believe I should go to hell because I've been raised in an atheist family. Even if I wanted to convert I wouldn't have a choice. Especially not now since I've done alot of research and a God wouldn't make sense to me the same as atheism doesn't make sense to you.







Most* atheist believe on that theory.
The big bang theory is nothing more than that, a theory.
Like any other religous believes, everything can't be proved, as well as to what "god" is the real god, or if there are multiple gods.
It seems to me that if there is a real god, and having prove, that would destroy every other religion and the believers.
Why wouldn't an all knowing god, or multiple gods( for other religions), let this happen?
As an atheist, i haven't even been think twice on the extraordinary chances earth has evolved, as well as the only place known to human life there is life, because we simply do not even know how the universe was evolved, therefore; how can we know if trillions miles away there is another planet with sustainable life?
Hence knowing there is a god? I loathe the fact that most of the world has a religious belief, and look down upon those who don't or disagree. In the end of any belief it ends up being nothing but self faith, like a self motivation.