Religion Thread

[L_I_S]

Great points 

What does everyone believe in and why?

I'd like to know this ^

Anyone an agnostic theist or agnostic atheist?

[Tupac]

Great points 

What does everyone believe in and why?

I'd like to know this ^

Anyone an agnostic theist or agnostic atheist?

im not quite sure why im religious, because i do believe we should believe the facts
but let me put it this way
most people believe in a god or a higher power because it makes life a bit easier to get by, the whole saying "everything happens for a reason" most people would like to believe god/higher power intended for that happen.

I went 100% blind in my right eye freshman year of highschool, at first i was kinda pissed about it because i thought id never be able to do uppers again, but it made me push myself and my limits and now i achieved what i would of never achieved if i hadn't gone through that incident, it made me go from training 30 mins a day  too training 3-5 hrs consistantly every day and sometimes i did 24 hr sessions of fs, i personally believe god put me through that so i could achieve my maximum potential.

Plus the idea of eternal happiness in heaven doesnt sound to bad ;)

[Adi]

Nobody understands the power of religion, religion is the strongest placebo effect known too man.
I used too have a very simular mindset too the TFs post, but after doing various studies, imma never knock religion again.
For example look at muhamed ali, and look at micheal jackson.
Both believe in two seperate religions, so only one is correct?
But how come, they both put all there sucess down too god.
In this post im not questioning whether or not religion is real, but relegion is so great for the mind, having the belief that god is on your side, a superior too anything in the world, makes you beleieve you will win, and will push forward.
Religion is such a powerfull tool, whether its the truth or not, nobody knows, however there are such benefits too it, down too the placebo affect.

I see what you are saying, but...

What about the other side of religion?  All the wars, the dead people, the insecurities of those practicing a minority religion, the discrimination?  Do the things you describe in your post outweigh the above?  It's a good question to ponder...

[Royal Freakiness]

to me, whether religious or not, there will always be reasons for war. ppl will fight for food, for money, for land, for football teams, for musicians etc... and I believe religion is there to determine who is right or wrong. I hope yous understand. I'm not that knowledgeable in this area, just wanted to point out that religion is not the cause of all wars you know. IMO, religious ppl fight between one another because they see other religions as an insult to their religion. So they either preach by words, or cause a holy war. Hindus say god has many forms. Christians say, correct me if Im wrong, there is 3 in 1 god or something like that. Muslims say Allah (God) is only One, the Self-Sufficient Master, He begets not, nor was He begotten, and there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him. And atheists say there is no god, full stop. as you can see, each of them can't co-exist with one another.
they can have peace as in cease fire, but they won't stop. If atheists control a country and have power and everything, I'm sure they will try get rid of all of these religions by force. Atheist say they don't believe in anything when it's clear that they believe in science. so, in a sense, science is their god, science leads their way.
It's the same as ppl saying real madrid is much better than barcelona. or fernerbahce is better than galatasaray, or west ham is better than millwall, or man u is better than liverpool. They always fight each other. or even when ppl make a beyondfootball list of the top 20 fsers, they fight.
there can be no real peace, until one religion is considered the one true religion around the world. so ppl look try to look for a way to live, or as g-kid puts it "a placebo effect".
that's my opinion lol  To me, I find that Islam is the one true religion, and if you really look into it, it's the most peaceful religion. To me, the Muslims are failing because of themselves, not Judaism or jews, not christianity or christians, and not atheism or atheists. The muslims are failing nowadays because of heedlessness towards their own religion. a lot of ignorant muslims nowadays, and some of them are a part of "al qaeda"... lol al qaeda.

[L_I_S]

Nobody understands the power of religion, religion is the strongest placebo effect known too man.
I used too have a very simular mindset too the TFs post, but after doing various studies, imma never knock religion again.
For example look at muhamed ali, and look at micheal jackson.
Both believe in two seperate religions, so only one is correct?
But how come, they both put all there sucess down too god.
In this post im not questioning whether or not religion is real, but relegion is so great for the mind, having the belief that god is on your side, a superior too anything in the world, makes you beleieve you will win, and will push forward.
Religion is such a powerfull tool, whether its the truth or not, nobody knows, however there are such benefits too it, down too the placebo affect.

I see what you are saying, but...

What about the other side of religion?  All the wars, the dead people, the insecurities of those practicing a minority religion, the discrimination?  Do the things you describe in your post outweigh the above?  It's a good question to ponder...

What do you believe in, Adi?

[Ezo]

In my opinion such thing as Atheist doesnt really exists. Humans are religious creatures. Even if you say you dont belive in anything, if you get in a situation where you are helpless, you will start praying.

Let me ask this:What would people do on a plane, that's about to crash?

[Royal Freakiness]

In my opinion such thing as Atheist doesnt really exists. Humans are religious creatures. Even if you say you dont belive in anything, if you get in a situation where you are helpless, you will start praying.

Let me ask this:What would people do on a plane, that's about to crash?

they call on "shit"...

[Onas]

Although Im rather atheist, I think Christianity is a really ingenious religion. If you look at the raw form of it, with obeying all its rules (like no killing, no stealing, equality of all people), you just cant be evil being. Unfortunately, there are some homo weed smoking retards called popes with their subordinates and all of them think they are something more then other people and they are also closer to god, so they are allowed to kill and steal. Basically, some people are idiots and not even Bible helps them

Ive also read some Buddhist book and I find the concept of Buddhist doctrine really cool, its about (but not only about it) loving each other and teaching you how to live a very (and I mean VERY) happy life, so I think its a really peaceful religion However, they said in the book that you must help others AT FIRST, then think about yourself. Imo, they didnt realize there will always be some assholes profiting from it, so its not a perfect religion either.

And I was also reading what Satanism is about. From what Ive read about it, its not about humans and animals sacrificing at all, they just want to provoke Catholic Church n sh!t, so I find it far more peaceful than, for example, Islam 

[Ezo]

By the way I wouldn't call myself a christian, I'm beetween idealists and those who only belive in science. Obviously christianity has many good things, you can learn a lot of good things from it, but also a lot of bullcrap, and its the same with the other religions.

@Onas: Yes, If you look trough history, you can see the people used religion as an excuse to steal, rob, attack other countries, get power, even to get rid of a wife (Henrik the 8th made a new church beacuse the pope didn't let him divorce, haha.)

[Royal Freakiness]

@ Onas:
have you even researched on Islam?  
here's a thing to ponder on
the ppl of the highest order in christianity are almost completely separate from the ppl when it comes to secular matters. they don't marry, they don't do anything
the ppl of the highest order in buddhism live their lives in temples, worshipping. completely helpless ppl.
the ppl of the highest order in Islam? they marry, they have children. they eat amongst normal ppl like normal ppl do. they have businesses. they learn science, maths, geography etc... they can be doctors, scientists, accountants, explorers etc... they care about animals. they are politicians, they are knowledgeable about the rulings in Islam. they are religious leaders but still live normal lives. They will go to battle when necessary. they have fun with normal ppl, hang out with them etc... you don't see that in other religions. Islam is a COMPLETE way of life, not just a religion in theory. it's about practice too.

[L_I_S]

@ Onas:
have you even researched on Islam? 
here's a thing to ponder on
the ppl of the highest order in christianity are almost completely separate from the ppl when it comes to secular matters. they don't marry, they don't do anything
the ppl of the highest order in buddhism live their lives in temples, worshipping. completely helpless ppl.
the ppl of the highest order in Islam? they marry, they have children. they eat amongst normal ppl like normal ppl do. they have businesses. they learn science, maths, geography etc... they can be doctors, scientists, accountants, explorers etc... they care about animals.

Wrong. The christian orthodox priests and what not, do marry, have children and eat with everyone and also do learn about the things you mentioned. The reason some of the monks go and live alone etc is so they are 'closer' to God with no distractions. They don't think of themselves as 'higher' beings as you were trying to convey. Same with catholic priests.

they care about animals

What about certain 'dirty' animals.

[Royal Freakiness]

I was talking about those in the vatican etc... but whatever, I'm talking out of my arse. I'm not that knowledgeable about other religions...    

dirty animals like pigs? mice, rats, scorpions, snakes, wild aggressive dogs etc...?

anyways
Does Islam promote Muslims to have bad Manners towards NON MUSLIMS TheDeenshow
Does Islam promote Muslims to have bad Manners towards NON MUSLIMS TheDeenshow




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