Managers

[ajs17]

managers have always been under alot of pressure if the team losses they are immedietly blammed.



look at del bosque the old Madrid Coach he won them soo many titles including the champs league, built surley one of the best teams in history then he didn't win just one la liga title and they kicked him out.

as zidane said, u cant change 11 players in a team but u can easily change 1 manager

[Tito]

it more complex then just changing a managers

anyway this discuss is close lets move on

What are you opinions on managers that are doing better than they could've hoped for?
- Hull City's Phil Brown
- Hoffenheime's Jan Schindelmeiser

[moby]

i want to see them managing big clubs. i wonder if they can have the same effect

[Tito]

maybe they can make these teams big

Phil Brown was signed 2 seasons ago and he said he had a 3 year plan to bring them to the EPL it came a year early


these Managers are doing good due to smart buys for example Giovanni who was barely worth shit you can't say that now
and Hoffenhiems Chincheda Obasi the young Nigerian didn't play much in the first 2 games but when he came on in the 3rd late and turned the game around i don't believe he got subed off since

but you can't credit long term performances on one particular person its a team effort but those player are a key component to the teams success

[Sule]

i hope the two managers stay with their respective clubs and really, turn them into contenders for the trophies

[moby]

maybe they can make these teams big

Phil Brown was signed 2 seasons ago and he said he had a 3 year plan to bring them to the EPL it came a year early


these Managers are doing good due to smart buys for example Giovanni who was barely worth shit you can't say that now
and Hoffenhiems Chincheda Obasi the young Nigerian didn't play much in the first 2 games but when he came on in the 3rd late and turned the game around i don't believe he got subed off since

but you can't credit long term performances on one particular person its a team effort but those player are a key component to the teams success

it not always about the players, the way the manager pulls the strings is very important

meaning their tactics

For example, when brazil lost to France in the 06 WC the coach kept adriano off the whole match, he subbed on robinho and cichino late in the match and it had an imediate impact, cichino was putting in crosses maicon cant even think off.

my point is what makes a good manager is the way they teach their players to play and if they can adapt to the opponet

[Sule]

the problem is that sometimes, their is nothing left to teach the player. Maybe tactics wise and what he should do on the park, but i wouldnt be surprised if many times the player goes for glory instead of the safe route

Like when Henry went to Barcelona, what could Frank Rijkaard(not sure on spelling) teach him? He was one of the best players in the world At the time and he wasnt going to become any wiser or more knowledgeable of the game

All im saying is that its not always the managers fault, if he has bad players, what do u expect of him. Its like expecting a hairdresser to give a bald man a mullet, sometimes, you just cant.

[moby]

hahaha lol +1 karma for a perfect example


what i mean is how the manager uses a player.

i'll use your example, Frank Rijkaard played Henry on the left wing, any fool knows that henry is one of the best CF's and cherry pickers. thats what lead to Henry having a bad season and Rijkaard being kicked out. you gotta know when and how to use a player.

some players are great impact players, you gotta know when to play them, some have abilities that none other have, you gotta know how to get the max of the ability in the match

[Sule]

yeah i agree with what your saying so really for managers, it goes both ways

[Tito]

wow great points
this thread is going better than i thought if only more members would post here
anyway we've made a solid discussion of that now onto the next topic of discussion

Is Wenger to blame for arsenals downfall or is the best of the season yet to come?

[moby]

totally the best is yet to come

weger has made one of the best youngest team the world has ever seen, players like vela will shit on players in barca's youth team.

what i expect is in a few years time his player's will get better and other clubs players will get older

so in 3-4 years time arsenal will be one of the best teams in the world in my opinion, unless other clubs change their way.



His choice of using young players is great, he knew that with the current players he wasn't going to win anything so he invested in the future and i think that is great managerial skill and foward thinking

[Sule]

the only thing that i worry is that he will sell them for big bucks to big temas for more cash to bring in MORE young talent

my theory behind the situation is that Wenger, after seeing/ making the In vincables team, wants to make/breed his own crop of invincables