English Premier League 12/13

[Emil Nissen]

Glad everyone is concentrating on MU and Liverpool and aren't talking about the Chelsea/QPR game.

how can the European champions be playing so bad!

[Adi]

I'm actually quite tired of hearing this shit. Yes, he does dive a bit often even for me, but he's definitely not the worst cheat in the entire league. There are several players in the league just as bad, and there are probably some even worse. The media has hounded him for what many attacking players do in football.

Of course the media is after him and rightfully so.  He deserves it.  He didn't do himself any favors after the 2010 World Cup either.  He falls too much.  Just as much as any other top diver.  No excuses.  Others should be called out by the media too, but Suarez is still one of the biggest offenders.

Also, how is it so clear RVP is better? RVP has one more goal in the league than Suarez, and he plays on a far superior team, and is the main penalty taker. Suarez's only set piece goals have been either direct free kicks or headers. He's also had 2 legitimate goals that I can recall off the top of my head wrongfully disallowed. For me, RVP and Suarez have been the two top players in the league. After those two, it gets a bit more tricky.

RVP also has 6 assists which is 4th best in the league.  I don't see Suarez anywhere near the top on that list.  Also, RVP finishes much better.  Suarez creates a lot and I credit him for that, but he's not quite the finisher RVP is.  RVP is not ahead by much but he's definitely the top player so far this season.

There rest is at the end of the season.
In those leagues they get paid lower on average though.

Most of these players don't get rest at the end of the season though.  Summer competitions are usually happening every summers.  Every other league has a winter break, why not England?  I would not be a fan of that if I were playing in England.  Players need the rest especially when most play 2 games a week.

[Adi]

how can the European champions be playing so bad!

Because they are the worst European Champions of all time.  Pathetic display of football to win that trophy.  Glad they are suffering...

[Adi]

Pictures of the Mancini vs Balotelli bust up.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2256586/Mario-Balotelli-Roberto-Mancini-training-ground-fight.html

[Adi]

Redknapp talks about Di Canio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgAbu4zOxg4#

Here is the actual video of the game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKHvvPClH-8

[redsforlife]

Adi- You just justified British papers. WTF!?!? There are tons of players just as bad and some worse than him. It's British xenophobia. People that are still pissed at the incident in the World Cup are dumb. The hand ball got called, and he got red carded. He was rightfully punished. Only Gyan is to blame for missing the penalty. Gyan even made a statement that he forgived Suarez for doing it, and he would have done the same in that situation.

RVP does have 3 more assists, but Suarez creates more chances. Suarez just doesn't have near the finishers along side him. I agree that RVP is a better finisher. Suarez is a better dribbler, and he maybe better technically overall. Saying RVP is clearly ahead of Suarez makes me think your are showing a bias. You obviously don't like him, so you want RVP to be better. The fact is they have been very close this season. Suarez easily wins for me if we include their national team performances. What Suarez does for Uruguay, I've never seen RVP do for the Netherlands. Both have been very good this year, and should be the top 2 choices.

[Adi]

OK, RVP is not ahead by far, but he is ahead.  The fact that Livepool is struggling so bad doesn't sit so well with me when it comes to claims that Suarez is the best player in the league this year.  He should impact his team's performances more.  I know it's about the team, but it's just the way it goes with perception.

Who are bigger divers than Suarez?  I can't think of anyone.

[redsforlife]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNx5ok60U6A

I don't like the entire message of this video, but I do like that he proved that many players in the league do it. Many of the players he uses as an example are just as bad. It's a shit part of the game, but it's there. Suarez is also one of the most legitimately fouled players in the league. He's been booked for diving this season on complete hack jobs. If anything, Liverpool's league performance shouldn't go against Suarez on whether he's the best player in the league. It's very possible if he was on City or United, he'd be the clear cut leading scorer. We don't know. RVP could also have scored  far less if he was at Liverpool. We don't know. For me, they are very close, but I'd actually rather have Suarez.

[Adi]

You'd rather have Suarez that RVP?  I wouldn't.  RVP was stellar last season for Arsenal as well.  I know they have a better system than Liverpool, but RVP is no joke.

As far as the video goes, those are all dives but most of those guys are not serial divers.  Suarez is.

[redsforlife]

You'd rather have Suarez that RVP?  I wouldn't.  RVP was stellar last season for Arsenal as well.  I know they have a better system than Liverpool, but RVP is no joke.

As far as the video goes, those are all dives but most of those guys are not serial divers.  Suarez is.

I never said RVP was a joke. They are the 2 best strikers in the league.

Certain players were in that video multiple times for a reason. It's because they dive very often. Players known for diving off the top of my head: Ashley Young, Nani, Gareth Bale, Diouf, Berbatov, etc. There are many more, but I cannot be bothered to prove it. The fact is no one can watch every game. You are letting the biased media influence you.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlSA0Xmh174

Suarez has never done anything as disgraceful as this.

[Adi]

Still can't believe they counted that goal.  Ugh.

[Adi]

Manchester City moved their advertising boards to counteract Stoke’s long throw-ins