A word of advice

[oLi]

Don't undercharge. Your services are worth a lot of money. Charging 50 euro for a show is a joke unless it's nearby for a very small football club where you are allowed to leave straight after the show or some scenario like that. If you're doing something for a large company and you're actually a good freestyler make sure you charge accordingly and make sure you actually feel like you're worth that money.

How much do you think is fair for a freestyler to charge for 2 separate 5min shows? Not for a small football club, mid tier event.

Is the event in your area? How were you contacted by this person? Can you benefit further by doing the show as in more jobs from this company or perhaps get a good amount of exposure?

There are many questions to answer, but in general ok jobs pay 200-250 euros for a gig like the one you mentioned. Depending on a lot (trust me there are so many things to take in to this equation) of things you might want to go as low as 150 euros or as high as 500.

Lets say you want 350 euro for the gig then you just say "I usually charge 350 euros for gigs like this one" and you await for a response. Usually they just answer straight away "ok" or "that's too much".

Another thing is, are you going to lose sleep over losing a gig? How are you seated financially? I personally am doing very well so if I get contacted I just say my price and if they go no then I go ok adios and I have no trouble sleeping over losing any gig. However if you're struggling to put food on your table you might wanna agree to do gigs for a lower price if the company doesnt wanna give you what you originally said you wanted.

[L_I_S]

Don't undercharge. Your services are worth a lot of money. Charging 50 euro for a show is a joke unless it's nearby for a very small football club where you are allowed to leave straight after the show or some scenario like that. If you're doing something for a large company and you're actually a good freestyler make sure you charge accordingly and make sure you actually feel like you're worth that money.

How much do you think is fair for a freestyler to charge for 2 separate 5min shows? Not for a small football club, mid tier event.

Is the event in your area? How were you contacted by this person? Can you benefit further by doing the show as in more jobs from this company or perhaps get a good amount of exposure?

There are many questions to answer, but in general ok jobs pay 200-250 euros for a gig like the one you mentioned. Depending on a lot (trust me there are so many things to take in to this equation) of things you might want to go as low as 150 euros or as high as 500.

Lets say you want 350 euro for the gig then you just say "I usually charge 350 euros for gigs like this one" and you await for a response. Usually they just answer straight away "ok" or "that's too much".

Another thing is, are you going to lose sleep over losing a gig? How are you seated financially? I personally am doing very well so if I get contacted I just say my price and if they go no then I go ok adios and I have no trouble sleeping over losing any gig. However if you're struggling to put food on your table you might wanna agree to do gigs for a lower price if the company doesn't wanna give you what you originally said you wanted.

The event is a few hours drive away. I guess the extra exposure is good, I don't think any extra shows will come out of that area since it's outside the major city.
I will keep that information in mind.
One more thing, do you charge more or less if you offer a deal with more shows? Example: 2 shows $300, 4 shows $550 or do you charge $600 for the 4 shows?

[Lucaso]

All of you who want to hear more of this advice and want your questions be answered... come to Prague for World Champ where we are going to set up "Oli´s Advice Corner" called "OAC: what´s bothering you, my freestyle pal?"

Agree, Oli?

[oLi]

Don't undercharge. Your services are worth a lot of money. Charging 50 euro for a show is a joke unless it's nearby for a very small football club where you are allowed to leave straight after the show or some scenario like that. If you're doing something for a large company and you're actually a good freestyler make sure you charge accordingly and make sure you actually feel like you're worth that money.

How much do you think is fair for a freestyler to charge for 2 separate 5min shows? Not for a small football club, mid tier event.

Is the event in your area? How were you contacted by this person? Can you benefit further by doing the show as in more jobs from this company or perhaps get a good amount of exposure?

There are many questions to answer, but in general ok jobs pay 200-250 euros for a gig like the one you mentioned. Depending on a lot (trust me there are so many things to take in to this equation) of things you might want to go as low as 150 euros or as high as 500.

Lets say you want 350 euro for the gig then you just say "I usually charge 350 euros for gigs like this one" and you await for a response. Usually they just answer straight away "ok" or "that's too much".

Another thing is, are you going to lose sleep over losing a gig? How are you seated financially? I personally am doing very well so if I get contacted I just say my price and if they go no then I go ok adios and I have no trouble sleeping over losing any gig. However if you're struggling to put food on your table you might wanna agree to do gigs for a lower price if the company doesn't wanna give you what you originally said you wanted.

The event is a few hours drive away. I guess the extra exposure is good, I don't think any extra shows will come out of that area since it's outside the major city.
I will keep that information in mind.
One more thing, do you charge more or less if you offer a deal with more shows? Example: 2 shows $300, 4 shows $550 or do you charge $600 for the 4 shows?

You mean like it's one gig but two shows within an hour or so or as same gig but spread over two days? The way I usually make things like this up is in my mind and I usually have a certain price which is just basically just for coming out which would be my minimum fee and then depending on all those different types of factors I might add a couple of bucks. So let's say you have two gigs, everything is identical with them but one wants you to do two shows and the other one well then of course you can charge more when you do two. However much more you want to charge is up to you. Doesn't have to be that much more really but make sure when talking to whoever is organizing the gig with you that you not only clarify what your fee is but also exactly what is given for that fee. Usually if they want something different they will just say so and then ask you to state a new price of course and after that you can add however much you like.

But yeah so two identical gigs but one wants one show and the other wants two well in my opinion that doesn't really validate making any crazy price raises. Perhaps 20 % more at most.

[DanTheMan]

All of you who want to hear more of this advice and want your questions be answered... come to Prague for World Champ where we are going to set up "Oli´s Advice Corner" called "OAC: what´s bothering you, my freestyle pal?"

Agree, Oli?

LOL PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE ahahaha

[L_I_S]

You mean like it's one gig but two shows within an hour or so or as same gig but spread over two days? The way I usually make things like this up is in my mind and I usually have a certain price which is just basically just for coming out which would be my minimum fee and then depending on all those different types of factors I might add a couple of bucks. So let's say you have two gigs, everything is identical with them but one wants you to do two shows and the other one well then of course you can charge more when you do two. However much more you want to charge is up to you. Doesn't have to be that much more really but make sure when talking to whoever is organizing the gig with you that you not only clarify what your fee is but also exactly what is given for that fee. Usually if they want something different they will just say so and then ask you to state a new price of course and after that you can add however much you like.

But yeah so two identical gigs but one wants one show and the other wants two well in my opinion that doesn't really validate making any crazy price raises. Perhaps 20 % more at most.

Oh okay, I understand the minimum price thing.
Thanks for that.

[SvenF]

Today I did a show for free, for an organization that helps out children suffering from cancer. I did it for free because there were some other Luxembourgish artists that are more known than me and did it for free as well, it was all for a good cause. I got 3 new LP offers from there. Sometimes it also pays off to get paid less or do something for a good cause.

[oLi]

Today I did a show for free, for an organization that helps out children suffering from cancer. I did it for free because there were some other Luxembourgish artists that are more known than me and did it for free as well, it was all for a good cause. I got 3 new LP offers from there. Sometimes it also pays off to get paid less or do something for a good cause.

Certainly. I would never suggest anyone to charge anything when doing charity events. That destroys the whole charity purpose.

Good job by the way! Also happy to hear that you landed some gigs from it!

[DanTheMan]

yeah very nice! i agree with Oli, its also nice to do a charity event for free, but MAKE SURE its a charity event! and like Sven said, there were better known artists than him also doing for free, so do ur research first..

another thing, if someone approaches you and tries to guilt you into doing a charity event dont be afraid to say no.. i hate when people try to make you out to be an asshole if you just dont have time/dont feel like doing a charity event, in some small school or random thing

my last tip and one that i find important is. - dont be "embarassed" about your fee. if someone asks you (in real life, to your face) how much you charge, it might seem a bit outrageous when you say 350,300, whatever.. but its your work, if you dont value yourself nobody will, so just name your fee. dont lower it on the spot so it seems more "acceptable" to the person..

peeeeeace

[rodrigoFS]

thanks a lot oLi, the goal and improvement advice sounds great
  

[Kitti]

I found the training tips more inspiring than Rocco's videos. Hope there's more to come.

[L_I_S]

I found the training tips more inspiring than Rocco's videos.

Outrageous!