If you still remember the main thing of this topic I would like to say I completely support the opinion about "no talent, just training". FF is just about that and I hate people telling me "man, you are so talented" cause its bull shit.
When I was starting playing football 12 years ago I was ugly fat kid. And if anyone would say I am gona do sth with ball and be good at it I laughed my ass off. I stayed ugly but everything I can do now is result of hard training and litres of sweat... And I didnt need a talent or any other shit. Just ability to move my ass and do sth. So I dont understand why everyone aimed to go to that Talent shits just to be in TV when nobody can tell he is talented or gifted.