3 rev in order of invention.

[Azuuun]

Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.

if so i would say that htlatw, skatw, eatw are 2.5 tricks... since the start with half atw...

Hatw isn't a 180 degree rev like a cross over move..

when it comes to finnish it of with ahmatw i belive it is... cause you start the next movement before you finnish the hatw...i get your point when it comes to hatw-hatw... but i dont think you get mine ;)

[L_I_S]

Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.

if so i would say that htlatw, skatw, eatw are 2.5 tricks... since the start with half atw...

Hatw isn't a 180 degree rev like a cross over move..

when it comes to finnish it of with ahmatw i belive it is... cause you start the next movement before you finnish the hatw...i get your point when it comes to hatw-hatw... but i dont think you get mine ;)

You have not understood me. It's not 180 and it's not 360, it's somewhere in-between ;)
If you know how degrees work you'll agree with me.

[Azuuun]

Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.

if so i would say that htlatw, skatw, eatw are 2.5 tricks... since the start with half atw...

Hatw isn't a 180 degree rev like a cross over move..

when it comes to finnish it of with ahmatw i belive it is... cause you start the next movement before you finnish the hatw...i get your point when it comes to hatw-hatw... but i dont think you get mine ;)

You have not understood me. It's not 180 and it's not 360, it's somewhere in-between ;)
If you know how degrees work you'll agree with me.

I know its not the exact degrees, the point was according to your statement that skmatw was 3.5 revs...

[Tupac]

Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.

if so i would say that htlatw, skatw, eatw are 2.5 tricks... since the start with half atw...

Hatw isn't a 180 degree rev like a cross over move..

when it comes to finnish it of with ahmatw i belive it is... cause you start the next movement before you finnish the hatw...i get your point when it comes to hatw-hatw... but i dont think you get mine ;)

You have not understood me. It's not 180 and it's not 360, it's somewhere in-between ;)
If you know how degrees work you'll agree with me.

I know its not the exact degrees, the point was according to your statement that skmatw was 3.5 revs...

Lis never said it was 3.5, lumatt did, and I don't think it matters, dumb thing to debate...

[Max]

skatw and eatw arent hatw ahmatw nt. they are atw ahmatw nt because you finsih the trick with the same foot you started. hatw is starting with one foot and finishing with the other foot.

[L_I_S]

For fucks sake...Hatw is no where near 180 degrees. If you don't know what 180 degrees is, it's half a circle. So if that was a freestyle rev, the rev would end at the top of the ball and completely stop going around, everything more than that is much >180 degrees. If you fail to see that you need to re-learn math

[tbc]

inside hatw has more revolution than outside hatw. so does that make eatw more harder than skatw? or do they depend on how good you are with the first touch on inside and outside?

[Azuuun]

For fucks sake...Hatw is no where near 180 degrees. If you don't know what 180 degrees is, it's half a circle. So if that was a freestyle rev, the rev would end at the top of the ball and completely stop going around, everything more than that is much >180 degrees. If you fail to see that you need to re-learn math

my point were just to say that skatw and eldo have less revs then patw...

[ARS]

For fucks sake...Hatw is no where near 180 degrees. If you don't know what 180 degrees is, it's half a circle. So if that was a freestyle rev, the rev would end at the top of the ball and completely stop going around, everything more than that is much >180 degrees. If you fail to see that you need to re-learn math

my point were just to say that skatw and eldo have less revs then patw...

I agree that when you do skatw or eatw you can do, for example, 1st and 2nd revs almost at the same time, because you do it with different legs, and when you do patw - you cant start the next rev untill you didnt finish the previous one. BUT, each rev of skatw or eatw takes much more time to do, because all patw`s revs go just around the ball, but skatw`s and eatw`s revs - no! because firstly you need to lift your leg from the ground, then you do a rev, and then you need to put your leg back on the ground - so at all you do much more motions while skatw/eatw than while patw. i hope you understand

[Max]

also the revs in skatw and eatw are clean revs, patw revs are smaller and bendy.