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Freestyle Soccer Forum => Freestyle Chat => Topic started by: jabarinho on May 24, 2012, 02:07: PM
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So many freestylers focus on lowers. I don't exactly know how many, but i would guess that maybe 50% of freestylers practice only lowers. But very few freestylers focus on practicing only upper or sits, blocks, grounds etc.
Probably 90% of videos on the forum are lowers. And lowers have reached crazy heights. Other styles seem to grow slowly compared to lowers. Why is this?
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Most people learn to juggle with their feet while standing first, so lowers tricks are the most natural tricks to learn first. Also, most freestyler's first trick was atw or cross over. It only makes sense to most people to improve on this area the most. It's also quite easy to come up with new ways to push the limits. You can always find one more revolution around the ball. Landing the trick might be more difficult than coming up with it.
Sits and uppers have a bit of a learning curve. It's harder to juggle with your upper body or with your feet while sitting than standing with your feet. For these reasons, I think people are less likely to put huge focus on uppers or sits over lowers. Also, pushing the limits in sitting and uppers requires a bit more creativity with the tricks involved. It's not like lowers where you are doing mainly atw variations. You must come up with different types of tricks. stalls, juggles, spinning, rolls, etc.
Grounds seem to be the style that is growing the least of any style. It's quite difficult to make grounds look good, so most people don't do much. Pushing the limits in grounds is very different from other areas. Also, not near as many people are interested in grounds. Not taking away from grounds, but most people don't appreciate them for more than a few seconds.
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:iagree:
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Most people learn to juggle with their feet while standing first, so lowers tricks are the most natural tricks to learn first. Also, most freestyler's first trick was atw or cross over. It only makes sense to most people to improve on this area the most. It's also quite easy to come up with new ways to push the limits. You can always find one more revolution around the ball. Landing the trick might be more difficult than coming up with it.
Sits and uppers have a bit of a learning curve. It's harder to juggle with your upper body or with your feet while sitting than standing with your feet. For these reasons, I think people are less likely to put huge focus on uppers or sits over lowers. Also, pushing the limits in sitting and uppers requires a bit more creativity with the tricks involved. It's not like lowers where you are doing mainly atw variations. You must come up with different types of tricks. stalls, juggles, spinning, rolls, etc.
Grounds seem to be the style that is growing the least of any style. It's quite difficult to make grounds look good, so most people don't do much. Pushing the limits in grounds is very different from other areas. Also, not near as many people are interested in grounds. Not taking away from grounds, but most people don't appreciate them for more than a few seconds.
Great post, case closed!
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I hate being agreed with 100%. This is Beyond Football dammit. I want controversy.
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I hate being agreed with 100%. This is Beyond Football dammit. I want controversy.
:grin: lol
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you are very right... i do only uppers no sits n so lowers at all ... i can't even juggle at lowers... but i'm OK at uppers...
many freestylers around me don't even count me as a freestyler... their thick skulls have only one thing drilled in them that freestyle football is all about lowers... i did 2 rp-rolls for the first time in my life in front of fellow freestylers(i was sooooooo happy) and they didn't gave a shit to me.. besides me another guy did 3 atw's with the shittiest style i ever saw and they were reacting like he did a skala, eldo or palle atw....
i mean sometimes i feel left out while freestyling with other freestylers at meets :( .. i know freestyle is lowers dominated but freestylers must respect other aspect and styles of freestyle... and that's the reason why freestyle is growing more only in lowers... i guess it's only the case how one perceives because most freestylers who have become famous and have become idols for some of us... it's only because they have pushed the limits of lowers and lowers have made them what they are today...
but i'll keep on doing what i wanna do... doesn't matter if anyone values me or not... it's freestyle and it's free form everything... :rolleyes:
excellent topic man... :)
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You can't juggle at lowers? I mean, I really don't give a shit about someone being able to do any atws or not. One can still be a good freestyler without lowers combos, but not being able to juggle with your feet standing is kind of odd. There are plenty of lowers tricks that aren't atw variations people do. Mr. Woo is probably the best example, and I think his lowers tricks are absolutely beautiful.
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Landing something new in lowers gives you more satisfaction than landing something new in sits/uppers. Because most people freestyle to get that special feeling after landing something, they don't do sits/uppers because they simply dont get it at those two styles.
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Completely agree with Knnthh. I train some sits from time to time but it just doesn't feel the same as doing lower combos for me.
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and that just reinforces my original post. Lowers are the most natural progression in freestyle. Also, such a large portion of the community prefers lowers, it is natural for people to want to compete, match, or beat other freestyler's lowers tricks/combos.
Now, as far as difficulty or satisfaction goes. No style can genuinely claim to be more difficult than the other, and some tricks are easy for some people and extremely hard for others. Satisfaction just comes from tricks that you have had more desire to learn. Whether it's lowers, uppers, sits, or grounds really just depends on the freestyler.
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Grounds seem to be the style that is growing the least of any style. It's quite difficult to make grounds look good, so most people don't do much. Pushing the limits in grounds is very different from other areas. Also, not near as many people are interested in grounds. Not taking away from grounds, but most people don't appreciate them for more than a few seconds.
Wrong. Grounds is just the style you know the least about.
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I think lowers is most fun to pratice, when I'm doing some Nt's i feel like I'm flying, and another felling wath aren't on other styles.
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I'm sorry, you are an idiot. I never said grounds aren't growing, but compare them to other areas of freestyle. How many people do grounds compared to lowers, uppers, and sits? No where near as many. That is just an observation, not a critique of the area. If anything, I'm a fan of groundmoves in freestyle.
Liicht, can you please get back to your fantasy world and leave the normal world alone.
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For me, lowers is the area that makes freestyle football a sport, hence my favourite area. When you do some hard/really good looking lower combos, you are least likely to be told by passers-by that you look like a clown.
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Name calling all ready. Nice :13: reds.
Your 'observation' is based on youtube videos and nothing else.
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Liicht, I'm done talking with you. You randomly post on post that I have posted on. Yes, I called you an idiot. I firmly believe you are an idiot, so I don't care.
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actually u yourself sound like an idiot when u write stuff like that...but go on, i shall not stop u :victory:
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redsforlife you are a fucking retard.
Thought I'd point this out. I guess this doesn't count for name calling...
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Thought I'd point this out. I guess this doesn't count for name calling...
You're taking it out of context. This was after you put down what I and many others do everyday of our lives. I suggest you go back and read that entire conversation, and see how disrespectful you were! But, yes I regret writing that excact line, but I was extremely offended.
^ Don't think thats the case here.
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You're taking it out of context. This was after you put down what I and many others do everyday of our lives. I suggest you go back and read that entire conversation, and see how disrespectful you were! But, yes I regret writing that excact line, but I was extremely offended.
^ Don't think thats the case here.
You're a fuckin hypocrite and a retard. Have a nice day.
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LOOOL :grin: