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Why lowers?
« on: May 24, 2012, 02:07: PM »
So many freestylers focus on lowers. I don't exactly know how many, but i would guess that maybe 50% of freestylers practice only lowers.  But very few freestylers focus on practicing only upper or sits, blocks, grounds etc.

Probably 90% of videos on the forum are lowers. And lowers have reached crazy heights. Other styles seem to grow slowly compared to lowers. Why is this?
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Re: Why lowers?
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2012, 02:30: PM »
Most people learn to juggle with their feet while standing first, so lowers tricks are the most natural tricks to learn first. Also, most freestyler's first trick was atw or cross over. It only makes sense to most people to improve on this area the most. It's also quite easy to come up with new ways to push the limits. You can always find one more revolution around the ball. Landing the trick might be more difficult than coming up with it.

Sits and uppers have a bit of a learning curve. It's harder to juggle with your upper body or with your feet while sitting than standing with your feet. For these reasons, I think people are less likely to put huge focus on uppers or sits over lowers. Also, pushing the limits in sitting and uppers requires a bit more creativity with the tricks involved. It's not like lowers where you are doing mainly atw variations. You must come up with different types of tricks. stalls, juggles, spinning, rolls, etc.

Grounds seem to be the style that is growing the least of any style. It's quite difficult to make grounds look good, so most people don't do much. Pushing the limits in grounds is very different from other areas. Also, not near as many people are interested in grounds. Not taking away from grounds, but most people don't appreciate them for more than a few seconds.
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Re: Why lowers?
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2012, 05:46: PM »
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Re: Why lowers?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2012, 12:56: PM »
Most people learn to juggle with their feet while standing first, so lowers tricks are the most natural tricks to learn first. Also, most freestyler's first trick was atw or cross over. It only makes sense to most people to improve on this area the most. It's also quite easy to come up with new ways to push the limits. You can always find one more revolution around the ball. Landing the trick might be more difficult than coming up with it.

Sits and uppers have a bit of a learning curve. It's harder to juggle with your upper body or with your feet while sitting than standing with your feet. For these reasons, I think people are less likely to put huge focus on uppers or sits over lowers. Also, pushing the limits in sitting and uppers requires a bit more creativity with the tricks involved. It's not like lowers where you are doing mainly atw variations. You must come up with different types of tricks. stalls, juggles, spinning, rolls, etc.

Grounds seem to be the style that is growing the least of any style. It's quite difficult to make grounds look good, so most people don't do much. Pushing the limits in grounds is very different from other areas. Also, not near as many people are interested in grounds. Not taking away from grounds, but most people don't appreciate them for more than a few seconds.
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Re: Why lowers?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2012, 03:16: PM »
I hate being agreed with 100%.  This is Beyond Football dammit. I want controversy.
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Re: Why lowers?
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2012, 05:10: PM »
I hate being agreed with 100%.  This is Beyond Football dammit. I want controversy.
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Re: Why lowers?
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2012, 11:16: PM »
you are very right... i do only uppers no sits n so lowers at all ... i can't even juggle at lowers... but i'm OK at uppers...
many freestylers around me don't even count me as a freestyler... their thick skulls have only one thing drilled in them that freestyle football is all about lowers... i did 2 rp-rolls for the first time in my life in front of fellow freestylers(i was sooooooo happy) and they didn't gave a shit to me.. besides me another guy did 3 atw's with the shittiest style i ever saw and they were reacting like he did a skala, eldo or palle atw....
i mean sometimes i feel left out while freestyling with other freestylers at meets :( .. i know freestyle is lowers dominated but freestylers must respect other aspect and styles of freestyle...  and that's the reason why freestyle is growing more only in lowers... i guess it's only the case how one perceives because most freestylers who have become famous and have become idols for some of us... it's only because they have pushed the limits of lowers and lowers have made them what they are today...
but i'll keep on doing what i wanna do... doesn't matter if anyone values me or not... it's freestyle and it's free form everything... :rolleyes:
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Re: Why lowers?
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2012, 03:56: AM »
You can't juggle at lowers? I mean, I really don't give a shit about someone being able to do any atws or not. One can still be a good freestyler without lowers combos, but not being able to juggle with your feet standing is kind of odd. There are plenty of lowers tricks that aren't atw variations people do. Mr. Woo is probably the best example, and I think his lowers tricks are absolutely beautiful.
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Re: Why lowers?
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2012, 10:14: PM »
Landing something new in lowers gives you more satisfaction than landing something new in sits/uppers. Because most people freestyle to get that special feeling after landing something, they don't do sits/uppers because they simply dont get it at those two styles.

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Re: Why lowers?
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2012, 10:59: PM »
Completely agree with Knnthh. I train some sits from time to time but it just doesn't feel the same as doing lower combos for me.

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Re: Why lowers?
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2012, 06:14: AM »
and that just reinforces my original post. Lowers are the most natural progression in freestyle. Also, such a large portion of the community prefers lowers, it is natural for people to want to compete, match, or beat other freestyler's lowers tricks/combos.

Now, as far as difficulty or satisfaction goes. No style can genuinely claim to be more difficult than the other, and some tricks are easy for some people and extremely hard for others. Satisfaction just comes from tricks that you have had more desire to learn. Whether it's lowers, uppers, sits, or grounds really just depends on the freestyler.
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Re: Why lowers?
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2012, 02:48: AM »
Grounds seem to be the style that is growing the least of any style. It's quite difficult to make grounds look good, so most people don't do much. Pushing the limits in grounds is very different from other areas. Also, not near as many people are interested in grounds. Not taking away from grounds, but most people don't appreciate them for more than a few seconds.

Wrong. Grounds is just the style you know the least about.
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