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Freestyle Soccer Forum => Freestyle Chat => Topic started by: jabarinho on May 15, 2012, 01:26: PM

Title: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: jabarinho on May 15, 2012, 01:26: PM
Why does Akim start most of his hardcore tricks like skatw and aeatw from the floor? In this vid at 2:52 mins he actually stops juggling to put the ball on the ground to do skmatw.

PVLC 2012 SemiFinal Hrom vs Akim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxauNmO5fuI&feature=g-vrec&context=G231309dRVAAAAAAAAAA#ws)

It looks strange, but when i think about it, maybe it helps with consistency of landing hard tricks because you don't have to put concentration into juggling before doing the trick.

Most fsers use a high touch on their last juggle before doing hardcore tricks like skmatw. But Akim does not need to do this because the ball is steady from the small flick-up he does.

Is Akim doing it wrong or is he a revolutionary, visionary, freestyle pioneer who teaches us a useful skill for consistency?
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: Tomso on May 16, 2012, 05:28: PM
i think it makes the learning easier, but kill the pulchritude of freestyle  :41:
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: jabarinho on May 17, 2012, 07:42: AM
i think it makes the learning easier, but kill the pulchritude of freestyle  :41:

my dictionary tells me 'pulchritude' means beauty........in that case, yes i agree, it does not look very good and it stops the flow of a performance a little.
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: Budz on May 17, 2012, 07:44: AM
Could just be that he learned the majority of things while in bare feet where juggling is 10times harder and therefore he just goes on the first touch (like loads of freestylers do while in bare feet) and therefore learnt it that way and developed a preference to it.
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: jabarinho on May 17, 2012, 08:24: AM
Could just be that he learned the majority of things while in bare feet where juggling is 10times harder and therefore he just goes on the first touch (like loads of freestylers do while in bare feet) and therefore learnt it that way and developed a preference to it.

yes true. Barefoot juggling hurts my feet and it is harder to juggle barefoot. I would not say 10 times harder, but yes a little harder. Maybe it is a habit for him now.
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: Adi on May 17, 2012, 08:44: AM
I would not say 10 times harder, but yes a little harder.

What would you say?  3.75678 times harder?  It's an expression, not a lyrical phrase. :grin:
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: jabarinho on May 17, 2012, 11:28: AM
What would you say?  3.75678 times harder?  It's an expression, not a lyrical phrase. :grin:

lol, ohhh ok i see

.......is the quoting system changed? I can't quote the whole post.
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: Adi on May 17, 2012, 03:43: PM
Yeah, I changed it so that only the last post is quoted rather than all posts in a nested format.  It's cleaner this way.  What you think?
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: vittoleon on May 17, 2012, 05:41: PM
I rather have pro's do 3 rev tricks like this in battles than do no 3 rev tricks at all and continue their easy low risk routine...
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: jabarinho on May 18, 2012, 06:19: AM
Yeah, I changed it so that only the last post is quoted rather than all posts in a nested format.  It's cleaner this way.  What you think?

yeh that makes sense.

I rather have pro's do 3 rev tricks like this in battles than do no 3 rev tricks at all and continue their easy low risk routine...

yeh i suppose
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: samfs on May 18, 2012, 10:04: PM
I always considered it cheap lol  :043:
But if he can do skatw skatw combos..he would be able to do skatw from juggling of course. But I'm pretty sure he won't be able to do the combos he does now if he juggles before starting
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: Zagamato on May 19, 2012, 02:21: AM
omg, who cares :o maybe he can't juggle :D
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: redsforlife on May 20, 2012, 01:15: PM
It definitely has to do with the way he learned the tricks. He feels much more confident setting up the trick like this rather than juggling. This is an example though of someone more interested in producing the most hardcore combos than providing a good freestyle performance. It really ruins the flow putting the ball on the ground like that to do a trick. The tricks are really hard, so that makes up for it somewhat. I think it could be something really cool if he figured out a way to work it into a routine. Drop the ball in a way to do a quick groundmoves thing, than do it to do a hardcore combo. Obviously there is no correct answer to whether he is doing it wrong or an innovator of a new way to do combos. He can do it however he wants.
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: brynjar on May 28, 2012, 08:52: PM
does 150+ combo, can't juggle
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: Onas on May 29, 2012, 08:01: AM
Just think about it... When you are training, you spend like 90% of your time juggling.
Title: Re: Akim style hard tricks
Post by: vittoleon on May 29, 2012, 06:43: PM
I spend 90% of my time swearing and running after the ball...  (jk)