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Title: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Sanderson on Apr 20, 2012, 02:00: AM
Ok over the years there has been some pretty poor judging decisions in RBSS. What for you has been the worst. The one that sticks out for me is this.
RBSS Germany 2009 - FINAL - René vs.Timo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReM7j-YIFu8#ws)
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: jabarinho on Apr 20, 2012, 07:23: AM
tom folan vs daniel cutting is still the joke of the century :lol_hitting: ........but yes rene vs timo was a bad one too lol.

3 others i think are bad (maybe some may disagree):

Martin schopf vs Faruk:
RBSS AUSTRIA FINAL [HD] ''Martin Schopf vs Faruk Onmaz'' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p28TWBOfw9E#ws)

Key vs Pedrinhow
RBSS Semi finais - Pedrinhow x Key (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqoGIOqRz2c#ws)

Murilo vs Diego:
Murilo x Diego - RBSS 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLEO6I4rXkQ#ws)
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: DAG on Apr 20, 2012, 08:26: AM
RBSS Ukraine 2012 FINAL

Urban vs Zhura
RBSS UA 2012 National Final | FINAL | Urban vs Zhura (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CUK18H8ntU#ws)
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Christof on Apr 20, 2012, 10:18: AM
for me this was the worst decision ever (edit: i just saw jabarinho wrote this too):

RBSS Nottingham Qualifications Final | Tom Vs Daniel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCqCZ2zs11o#)
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: jabarinho on Apr 20, 2012, 11:47: AM
the worst decision is using this monta ball. It makes good freestylers look shitty and makes shitty freestylers look even shittier.

Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Alex17 on Apr 21, 2012, 12:54: AM
the worst decision is using this monta ball. It makes good freestylers look shitty and makes shitty freestylers look even shittier.


then they win >.<
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Max on Apr 21, 2012, 10:03: PM
Definitely this one! Also have a look how much time floo has and how much dominik

FLoo vs Dominik.MOD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nag-r6Ao22M#)
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Lucaso on Apr 22, 2012, 05:18: AM
2012 Japan final Tokura vs Yosshi was pretty shitty decision!
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Miran Pirner on Apr 22, 2012, 11:56: AM
2012 Japan final Tokura vs Yosshi was pretty shitty decision!

That was neither the final of the competition nor the national final. That was the semi-final of the Tokyo QUALIFIER.

The national final took place yesterday in Nagoya and Tokura won.


BTW, don't really see the point of this topic other than having yet another topic where freestylers bitch about something...  :grin:
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Sanderson on Apr 22, 2012, 06:03: PM
2012 Japan final Tokura vs Yosshi was pretty shitty decision!

That was neither the final of the competition nor the national final. That was the semi-final of the Tokyo QUALIFIER.

The national final took place yesterday in Nagoya and Tokura won.


BTW, don't really see the point of this topic other than having yet another topic where freestylers bitch about something...  :grin:

To create some buzz in a forum that is needing topics like these.
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Miran Pirner on Apr 23, 2012, 02:18: AM
2012 Japan final Tokura vs Yosshi was pretty shitty decision!

That was neither the final of the competition nor the national final. That was the semi-final of the Tokyo QUALIFIER.

The national final took place yesterday in Nagoya and Tokura won.


BTW, don't really see the point of this topic other than having yet another topic where freestylers bitch about something...  :grin:

To create some buzz in a forum that is needing topics like these.

Why single out RBSS? It's not like other competitions have every decision spot on...
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Adi on Apr 23, 2012, 02:26: AM
Watching some of this really pisses me off...  :rolleyes:

Good topic though, brings some firy thoughts and posts.

Miran, we can always rename this topic to include any competition.  No need to focus in on RBSS only as you mentioned.
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: pallur on Apr 23, 2012, 02:27: AM
Why single out RBSS? It's not like other competitions have every decision spot on...

Word!!

Freestyle will always have those "faulty" decisions, because it's a matter of opinion. We don't have goals like in football to set the winner. Entering to a RBSS or any other kind of competition is everyones own decision, so no need to start bitching...

pallur
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Sanderson on Apr 23, 2012, 08:54: AM
Dont get me wrong Sean and Azun were worthy winners but on the whole RBSS has the most controversial decisions. I mean the jury for some RBSS events have been an absolute joke. Other freestyle comps like Prague and WFFC have real freestylers as judges and therefore the decisions are on the whole better. Common sense really.
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Miran Pirner on Apr 23, 2012, 09:04: AM
And some of the competitions with "real freestylers as judges" also had judges which were a joke or at least highly debatable. Also, there have been more RBSS comps worldwide than of any other competition so your comparison isn't really spot on.
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: jabarinho on Apr 23, 2012, 09:06: AM
If its a close battle there is no problem if a wrong decision is made. But RBSS is the only competition where breakdance moves and back flips are valued higher than technical freestyle moves. The Tom vs Daniel decision and the Faruk vs Martin Shopf decision would not happen in any other comp.

And it's also the only competition which uses a tiny denim ball that no one ever used before.

I understand it is hard to send freestylers to judge RBSS in every country. But it's still fun to bitch about it :grin:
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Miran Pirner on Apr 23, 2012, 10:06: AM
So basically it's OK if a "wrong" decision is made by freestylers and it's a act of terror if it's done by a bboy, football player or some random black person with shades dressed in Monta clothes?  :grin:
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Adi on Apr 23, 2012, 10:55: AM
So basically it's OK if a "wrong" decision is made by freestylers and it's a act of terror if it's done by a bboy, football player or some random black person with shades dressed in Monta clothes?  :grin:

I think it's all about the degree of incorrectness - if that's a word.

Some of this stuff is obvious.  Hell I don't freestyle, but I could easily tell you who did better in all those videos.  These judges should have at least my knowledge if they want to judge... and that's setting the bar fairly low. :grin:

I just hope this doesn't end up like video replays in footy where they argue that it's part of the game, blah, blah... poor judging is no good.  It creates conversation and debate, but it's no good if it's obviously wrong. 
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Lucaso on Apr 24, 2012, 12:22: AM
2012 Japan final Tokura vs Yosshi was pretty shitty decision!

That was neither the final of the competition nor the national final. That was the semi-final of the Tokyo QUALIFIER.

The national final took place yesterday in Nagoya and Tokura won.


BTW, don't really see the point of this topic other than having yet another topic where freestylers bitch about something...  :grin:

My bad Miran. Thanx for correct. I am glad it wasnt the final... Just what is difference between Red Bull companies around the world when in Japan they can afford like 1000 qualifications and in my country as in some other (Croatia etc) they dont want to do a single one.
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Sanderson on Apr 24, 2012, 02:56: AM
And some of the competitions with "real freestylers as judges" also had judges which were a joke or at least highly debatable. Also, there have been more RBSS comps worldwide than of any other competition so your comparison isn't really spot on.

Still the worst decisions have happened in RBSS in my opinion, You can change the title and include others if you want  :grin:
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Max on Apr 24, 2012, 05:45: AM
So basically it's OK if a "wrong" decision is made by freestylers and it's a act of terror if it's done by a bboy, football player or some random black person with shades dressed in Monta clothes?  :grin:

yes.
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Ethan on Apr 24, 2012, 05:59: PM
So basically it's OK if a "wrong" decision is made by freestylers and it's a act of terror if it's done by a bboy, football player or some random black person with shades dressed in Monta clothes?  :grin:

yes.
if it's a freestyler they could probably begin to justify their decision because they have a general understanding of the tricks etc that were just done. Whereas the others have no genuine understanding and therefore there is no chance they could even begin to justify an incorrect decision
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Adi on Apr 25, 2012, 05:20: AM
It kinda goes hand in hand if you ask me.

If the judge is a quality freestyler, then he shouldn't make a big mistake.  If he does, he obviously doesn't know what to look for... either that, or he's just a shit freestyler who has something against a particular style of freestyle.  Either way, not much better than a football player making a wrong decision.  Hell, you can argue it's almost worse.  Qualified people shouldn't make big mistakes like the ones in the videos.
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: DanTheMan on Apr 25, 2012, 09:29: PM
One of the worst I think was Oli beating Michryc in Prague 2010... and that was with a full freestyler judging panel
Also nobody mentioned Boomsjakie vs Andrew in RBSS 2010
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: 2zef^^ on May 01, 2012, 03:29: PM
One of the worst I think was Oli beating Michryc in Prague 2010... and that was with a full freestyler judging panel
Also nobody mentioned Boomsjakie vs Andrew in RBSS 2010
who won?
Title: Re: RBSS Worst Decisions
Post by: Miran Pirner on May 01, 2012, 04:12: PM
One of the worst I think was Oli beating Michryc in Prague 2010... and that was with a full freestyler judging panel
Also nobody mentioned Boomsjakie vs Andrew in RBSS 2010
who won?
Daniel.