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Freestyle Soccer Forum => Freestyle Chat => Topic started by: AdrianKrogseterFS on Jun 16, 2011, 12:35: AM
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having my most annoying time these days, cant fucking get a thing
and during the training i get more and more frustrated over the those things i should have been doing easily
also i have started to struggle to figure out when i should pull of tricks like (ahmatw,magellan etc) during juggling
anybody have these sessions aswell? and any tips to prevent it, had them so many times now
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me too right now... i go home from practise and all i can say "got nothing... again"
but then sometimes i have a good day, but all in all yea bad sessions right now...
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having my most annoying time these days, cant fucking get a thing
and during the training i get more and more frustrated over the those things i should have been doing easily
also i have started to struggle to figure out when i should pull of tricks like (ahmatw,magellan etc) during juggling
anybody have these sessions aswell? and any tips to prevent it, had them so many times now
take a 2 days break
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having my most annoying time these days, cant fucking get a thing
and during the training i get more and more frustrated over the those things i should have been doing easily
also i have started to struggle to figure out when i should pull of tricks like (ahmatw,magellan etc) during juggling
anybody have these sessions aswell? and any tips to prevent it, had them so many times now
take a 2 days break
+1
if you feel that something is not right, it is better to take a break
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make sure all your variables are okay...any change to your normal training can fuck you up before you've even started.
-go to a location you usually do good combos at
-dont change how pumped up your ball is/the shoes you use
go in with a good mentality, feeling confident. also, it sounds stupid, but take a shower before u fs as well as after...you will start your session feeling super fresh.
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make sure all your variables are okay...any change to your normal training can fuck you up before you've even started.
-go to a location you usually do good combos at
-dont change how pumped up your ball is/the shoes you use
go in with a good mentality, feeling confident. also, it sounds stupid, but take a shower before u fs as well as after...you will start your session feeling super fresh.
i think this is cause of overtraining . his legs(muscle) needs a break
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no such thing as overtraining.
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Same thing with me is going to stop doing some do not touch it before I was out easily, I'm very, very frustrated with that, other than I am with a problem in my back killing me until a month ago.
So I understand you adrian.
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no such thing as overtraining.
Overtraining is a physical, behavioral, and emotional condition that occurs when the volume and intensity of an individual's exercise exceeds their recovery capacity. They cease making progress, and can even begin to lose strength and fitness
i would want oLi's opinion on this.he would be capable of giving some good argues
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In sports like freestyle i dont think you can overtrain, in endurance sports you definately can e.g swimming
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In sports like freestyle i dont think you can overtrain, in endurance sports you definately can e.g swimming
well when you train you use your muscles ( from legs ) having a long practice season everyday without having a decent diet/sleeping period to support your body would cause the overtraining
overtraing could come in the point when you train to the point when rest is no longer adequate to allow for recovery
sorry for my english
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100% about the attitude you enter a session with. Think of it like taking a massive shit. You hold it in until you literally have to go and it feels damn good to release! Same principle with freestyle, watch hyped videos until you literally cant stop yourself from going outside, then when you do, you'll have a sick session.
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no such thing as overtraining.
Overtraining is a physical, behavioral, and emotional condition that occurs when the volume and intensity of an individual's exercise exceeds their recovery capacity. They cease making progress, and can even begin to lose strength and fitness
i would want oLi's opinion on this.he would be capable of giving some good argues
i am sorry my opinion isnt good enough for you Sir SG but in freestyle THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS OVERTRAINING. If you are tired from the previous session, you are still able to train and improve in other area of lowers. e.g if you spend a day training speed combos (multiple latw) then you are likely to get burnout in your hamstring area. The next training, even though you are very tired, you can train long combos...
Training long combos when you are tired will increase your endurance in combos when you are fresh. Then, the following session you will be able to train whatever you want again...
So how to train?...Just vary what you train if you're tired from the previous session.
There is obvious proof that you cant overtrain in freestyle...MP trains 7 days a week, up to 10 hours a day.
You wanted oLi's opinion, but he never overtrained in terms of his physical capability, he just overtrained to an extent where he no longer had the mental motivation.
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i think everyone has these session once in a while... personally when i had these kind of sessions i just freestyled so long that i could get something decent, even if it took fuckin long and i was fuckin tired.
also called motivation?
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thanks a lot guys, i will for sure try out what has been mentioned here!
going to take 2 days break though, so i can build up some motivation
and then my muscles can take a break aswell
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no such thing as overtraining.
Overtraining is a physical, behavioral, and emotional condition that occurs when the volume and intensity of an individual's exercise exceeds their recovery capacity. They cease making progress, and can even begin to lose strength and fitness
i would want oLi's opinion on this.he would be capable of giving some good argues
i am sorry my opinion isnt good enough for you Sir SG but in freestyle THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS OVERTRAINING. If you are tired from the previous session, you are still able to train and improve in other area of lowers. e.g if you spend a day training speed combos (multiple latw) then you are likely to get burnout in your hamstring area. The next training, even though you are very tired, you can train long combos...
Training long combos when you are tired will increase your endurance in combos when you are fresh. Then, the following session you will be able to train whatever you want again...
So how to train?...Just vary what you train if you're tired from the previous session.
There is obvious proof that you cant overtrain in freestyle...MP trains 7 days a week, up to 10 hours a day.
You wanted oLi's opinion, but he never overtrained in terms of his physical capability, he just overtrained to an extent where he no longer had the mental motivation.
waiting for the first guy saying mp practises 25 hours a day
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Glad I'm not the only one who feels like that some days.
Some days it seems like nothing works, can even get simple combos and tricks. :embarrassed:
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no such thing as overtraining.
Overtraining is a physical, behavioral, and emotional condition that occurs when the volume and intensity of an individual's exercise exceeds their recovery capacity. They cease making progress, and can even begin to lose strength and fitness
i would want oLi's opinion on this.he would be capable of giving some good argues
It's actually interesting you mention that. Me and my overtraining story is quite complicated and has a ton of twists and what not to it. There's an interesting perspective where you look at how worth a particular training is in terms of amounts you progress compared to how much time you spend practicing and I certainly believe it can be better to practice 2h a day (if we speak lowers only that is) compared to 6h a a day if we consider this benefit per minute or whatever you wanna call it perspective.
Eat enough. Rest enough. And remember, training for 5 h a day is not automatically better than 2 h a day "just like that". How you train is obviously also very much a key factor.
And never ever train just to train. This will kill you. Train because you love it and you enjoy it and because you want to improve. As soon as you start feeling as if you have to go out and train and you're not enjoying what you're doing you are doomed to fail. Doing this creates a negative circle because you will start thinking in a negative way and in my case freestyle and my goals and what not had a huge impact on me as a person and on my social life. My personality which without a doubt is a prideful and at times very narcisistical one took a great blow due to the fact that people such as MP came from nowhere and destroyed me. Just the whole summer of 2010 in general where I trained more than I ever had yet I seemed to do nothing but regress.
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Ethan, why do you think there's "no such thing as overtraining."?
Overtraining IS possible, it's just that there basically isn't anyone who trains that much to be bale to experience it.
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over-training can be physical or mental. Mental overtraining is very bad in any sport. like oli said dont train to just train.
Physical overtraining is possible in sports in terms of long term effect it has. You dont notice it as start but with time the wear and tear takes its toll. Not sure if this happens in fs..it is a relatively new sport. I want to know why palle is injured every other month or something.
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man i think you're mental state does have an impact on ur traning sessions i would say
its like 85 percent metal you know like motivation and confidence.
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I just heard a young girl in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, after watching her mother and her brother being gang raped and watching her Father's eye balls being physically ripped due to the fact he refused to rape his own daughter, then the Hutu militia tribe finishing of burning down her house, killing her family, keeping her a live however burning her labia and her clitoris in to a mere pulp, she runs to the local hospital and however as she does she suddenly think's to herself
"What am i crying about? My man Adrian here is struggling with his freestyle training? okay yes I can still here my mother's screams as they hacked her face off with a machete, however at least i'm not getting frustrated during my freestyle session"
Now have a think, are you really having a tough time? or are you just telling yourself you are?
Apart from the basic's, drink more water, train earlier, get rid of negative pressure's etc
Just switch your mindset up a little, stop seeing failure as a stumbling block, just picture is as one step closer to the trick your trying to land
In the word's of Michael Jordan "I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed. "
Tip number 2, don't just train harder, train smarter
What i mean by this is, study the greats, if you love how Rocco does his Ahmatw, download the fucker, put it in slow mo in sony vegas, look at them in every angle, then film yours, compare and see the difference and make changes
Keep your'e concentration 100%, if you think your'e mindset is drifting off to some fly hunnies or fly dudes (i don't judge people) pick up the ball, remind yourself of what trick you are doing and whatever little secrets you have and start again
G
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no such thing as overtraining.
Overtraining is a physical, behavioral, and emotional condition that occurs when the volume and intensity of an individual's exercise exceeds their recovery capacity. They cease making progress, and can even begin to lose strength and fitness
i would want oLi's opinion on this.he would be capable of giving some good argues
It's actually interesting you mention that. Me and my overtraining story is quite complicated and has a ton of twists and what not to it. There's an interesting perspective where you look at how worth a particular training is in terms of amounts you progress compared to how much time you spend practicing and I certainly believe it can be better to practice 2h a day (if we speak lowers only that is) compared to 6h a a day if we consider this benefit per minute or whatever you wanna call it perspective.
Eat enough. Rest enough. And remember, training for 5 h a day is not automatically better than 2 h a day "just like that". How you train is obviously also very much a key factor.
And never ever train just to train. This will kill you. Train because you love it and you enjoy it and because you want to improve. As soon as you start feeling as if you have to go out and train and you're not enjoying what you're doing you are doomed to fail. Doing this creates a negative circle because you will start thinking in a negative way and in my case freestyle and my goals and what not had a huge impact on me as a person and on my social life. My personality which without a doubt is a prideful and at times very narcisistical one took a great blow due to the fact that people such as MP came from nowhere and destroyed me. Just the whole summer of 2010 in general where I trained more than I ever had yet I seemed to do nothing but regress.
And now you're trying to compete in bodybuilding right man? Isn't that shit gonna be even harder?
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no such thing as overtraining.
Overtraining is a physical, behavioral, and emotional condition that occurs when the volume and intensity of an individual's exercise exceeds their recovery capacity. They cease making progress, and can even begin to lose strength and fitness
i would want oLi's opinion on this.he would be capable of giving some good argues
It's actually interesting you mention that. Me and my overtraining story is quite complicated and has a ton of twists and what not to it. There's an interesting perspective where you look at how worth a particular training is in terms of amounts you progress compared to how much time you spend practicing and I certainly believe it can be better to practice 2h a day (if we speak lowers only that is) compared to 6h a a day if we consider this benefit per minute or whatever you wanna call it perspective.
Eat enough. Rest enough. And remember, training for 5 h a day is not automatically better than 2 h a day "just like that". How you train is obviously also very much a key factor.
And never ever train just to train. This will kill you. Train because you love it and you enjoy it and because you want to improve. As soon as you start feeling as if you have to go out and train and you're not enjoying what you're doing you are doomed to fail. Doing this creates a negative circle because you will start thinking in a negative way and in my case freestyle and my goals and what not had a huge impact on me as a person and on my social life. My personality which without a doubt is a prideful and at times very narcisistical one took a great blow due to the fact that people such as MP came from nowhere and destroyed me. Just the whole summer of 2010 in general where I trained more than I ever had yet I seemed to do nothing but regress.
And now you're trying to compete in bodybuilding right man? Isn't that shit gonna be even harder?
it's not even related lol. cause the main point of freestyle is having fun, by doing better and better tricks, you must be excited and motivated while you train, and bodybuilding is about developing your body, and the training part is not about having fun but about forcing yourself to do one more rep when you think you're at the dead point when you can't do any movement
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you cant "overtrain" but you can get extremely tired from training long hours.. sometimes its good to take a rest day and just recover fully, then you will be feeling fresh on the following day.. plus training too much can just become boring depending on your mood, inspiration levels etc..
sometimes u need to train harder, sometimes a day off is good
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you cant "overtrain" but you can get extremely tired from training long hours.. sometimes its good to take a rest day and just recover fully, then you will be feeling fresh on the following day.. plus training too much can just become boring depending on your mood, inspiration levels etc..
sometimes u need to train harder, sometimes a day off is good
don't agree...a day off is never good.
if u genuinely don't have any motivation then yes a day off may be necessary, but if u feel like fsing but you are physically very very tired you should still freestyle. You are going to make further progress in those sessions (as far as endurance goes) than in a fresh session.
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Feeling like this right now, can't do a shit :embarrassed:
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Feeling like this right now, can't do a shit :embarrassed:
me too...but whenever I have days like these I just practice my weak foot and work on records, not combos or anything. at least doing something I guess, better than staying home.
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i started to sleep alot more.. helped me recover much faster...
the learning curv goes up and down... because you had a bat session doenst mean that you are tired physicaly...
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no such thing as overtraining.
Overtraining is a physical, behavioral, and emotional condition that occurs when the volume and intensity of an individual's exercise exceeds their recovery capacity. They cease making progress, and can even begin to lose strength and fitness
i would want oLi's opinion on this.he would be capable of giving some good argues
It's actually interesting you mention that. Me and my overtraining story is quite complicated and has a ton of twists and what not to it. There's an interesting perspective where you look at how worth a particular training is in terms of amounts you progress compared to how much time you spend practicing and I certainly believe it can be better to practice 2h a day (if we speak lowers only that is) compared to 6h a a day if we consider this benefit per minute or whatever you wanna call it perspective.
Eat enough. Rest enough. And remember, training for 5 h a day is not automatically better than 2 h a day "just like that". How you train is obviously also very much a key factor.
And never ever train just to train. This will kill you. Train because you love it and you enjoy it and because you want to improve. As soon as you start feeling as if you have to go out and train and you're not enjoying what you're doing you are doomed to fail. Doing this creates a negative circle because you will start thinking in a negative way and in my case freestyle and my goals and what not had a huge impact on me as a person and on my social life. My personality which without a doubt is a prideful and at times very narcisistical one took a great blow due to the fact that people such as MP came from nowhere and destroyed me. Just the whole summer of 2010 in general where I trained more than I ever had yet I seemed to do nothing but regress.
And now you're trying to compete in bodybuilding right man? Isn't that shit gonna be even harder?
Harder not sure but different yeah. Last weeks before the competition are the hardest.
Blazej I'm not sure what you think but trust me I enjoy (=have fun) every time I work out
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"Any sport is 90% mental, 10% physical when it comes to training"
If you ever go into a basketball game feeling like you're gonna lose, chances are you'll lose.
The same thing with fs, if you feel like you suck dick that day, you'll suck dick...
You need a positive attitude, my old trainer said if I didn't feel good about myself that day, don't bother going in. It'd be a wasted session.
There's a difference between physically tired and mentally tired, decide which you are, find a way to fix it. Eg: rest/cheer Yourself up.
mind > body
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no such thing as overtraining.
Overtraining is a physical, behavioral, and emotional condition that occurs when the volume and intensity of an individual's exercise exceeds their recovery capacity. They cease making progress, and can even begin to lose strength and fitness
i would want oLi's opinion on this.he would be capable of giving some good argues
It's actually interesting you mention that. Me and my overtraining story is quite complicated and has a ton of twists and what not to it. There's an interesting perspective where you look at how worth a particular training is in terms of amounts you progress compared to how much time you spend practicing and I certainly believe it can be better to practice 2h a day (if we speak lowers only that is) compared to 6h a a day if we consider this benefit per minute or whatever you wanna call it perspective.
Eat enough. Rest enough. And remember, training for 5 h a day is not automatically better than 2 h a day "just like that". How you train is obviously also very much a key factor.
And never ever train just to train. This will kill you. Train because you love it and you enjoy it and because you want to improve. As soon as you start feeling as if you have to go out and train and you're not enjoying what you're doing you are doomed to fail. Doing this creates a negative circle because you will start thinking in a negative way and in my case freestyle and my goals and what not had a huge impact on me as a person and on my social life. My personality which without a doubt is a prideful and at times very narcisistical one took a great blow due to the fact that people such as MP came from nowhere and destroyed me. Just the whole summer of 2010 in general where I trained more than I ever had yet I seemed to do nothing but regress.
And now you're trying to compete in bodybuilding right man? Isn't that shit gonna be even harder?
Harder not sure but different yeah. Last weeks before the competition are the hardest.
Blazej I'm not sure what you think but trust me I enjoy (=have fun) every time I work out
but it's kind of different, cause when I was working out I've enjoyed every single training, sometimes cause of the strength progress, sometimes cause of I was pissed of by some other thing and working out could get all my energy focused on a good thing. It's not the same as in freestyle imo, you know what I mean cause you've done both
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when it comes to upper and sits yes...
try sets of 50 htws. 1min rest then go, and you will feel pain after a wile hehe.
(and do real hop the worlds, not the fake step over...)
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when it comes to upper and sits yes...
try sets of 50 htws. 1min rest then go, and you will feel pain after a wile hehe.
(and do real hop the worlds, not the fake step over...)
what do u mean by those? :017:
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In my opinion it has nothing to do with over training ...
i think its just your mind set during the training session. Maybe you don't feel as motivated or you don't have the same amount of energy as you were when you were pulling of harder combo's ! Because i feel often like this myself. Sometimes some real good motivation does the trick for me ! Or having lots of energy that day :)
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when it comes to upper and sits yes...
try sets of 50 htws. 1min rest then go, and you will feel pain after a wile hehe.
(and do real hop the worlds, not the fake step over...)
what do u mean by those? :017:
He means you do HOP the world. Not STEP over the ball.
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htw= alternate atw right? i agree hopping looks better but i dont think there is any need to stick to the name literally :)
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htw= alternate atw right? i agree hopping looks better but i dont think there is any need to stick to the name literally :)
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htw= alternate atw right? i agree hopping looks better but i dont think there is any need to stick to the name literally :)
that doesn't prove anything, most of freestylers hop when doing atws also, so there should be hop in htws too :grin: