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Freestyle Soccer Forum => Freestyle Videos => Topic started by: Macca on Mar 19, 2008, 01:20: PM
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http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr-F9vJIDBI
clip at 3:05 had me laughing my ass off in amazement
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wat can I say, one of the best fs vids imo, the lower trix john did was so damn stylish and creative, and those uppers were out of this world !!!
location was pretty cool as well
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IMHO, people are making a huge fuss over JF doing anything that's more difficult than what an average freestyler can do. :rolleyes:
Don't get me wrong, I like JF's freestyle very much, he's one of my favorite freestylers, but when he does something, some people are so amazed by it just because he's JF.
...and those uppers were out of this world !!!
A clear example of what I'm talking about. They were really good, but not even near "out of this world".
Personally, I hate the fact he stopped doing proper atm's and start doing those 1/4 atm's or whatever that is. He's way too good to not be doing proper ones. And when I say proper I mean going around the ball instead of just flicking the ball up and making a 3 inch move.
People have to start being more realistic and stop kissing each others asses.
P.S. The video was quite aaaaight, Oli had a few good moments. :cheers:
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JF is the best :cheers:
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IMHO, people are making a huge fuss over JF doing anything that's more difficult than what an average freestyler can do. :rolleyes:
Don't get me wrong, I like JF's freestyle very much, he's one of my favorite freestylers, but when he does something, some people are so amazed by it just because he's JF.
...and those uppers were out of this world !!!
A clear example of what I'm talking about. They were really good, but not even near "out of this world".
Personally, I hate the fact he stopped doing proper atm's and start doing those 1/4 atm's or whatever that is. He's way too good to not be doing proper ones. And when I say proper I mean going around the ball instead of just flicking the ball up and making a 3 inch move.
People have to start being more realistic and stop kissing each others asses.
P.S. The video was quite aaaaight, Oli had a few good moments. :cheers:
when he does combos theyre done with PERFECT style and such flair, you cant tell me that the combo at 3:10 wasnt amazing
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IMHO, people are making a huge fuss over JF doing anything that's more difficult than what an average freestyler can do. :rolleyes:
Don't get me wrong, I like JF's freestyle very much, he's one of my favorite freestylers, but when he does something, some people are so amazed by it just because he's JF.
I see what you mean...like the latw-latw and they were jumping around like it was such a big thing. Altho maybe its just me coz i see bevs do it everday:P
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haha it's funny how i guessed about the latw-latw in the previous topic :) Which isn't even that hard if you wear shorts imo. But anyway, some of his combos were really amazing.. but i don't understand why he'd put something like co-matw nt in there lol
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P.S. Also notice, that his style on latw-latw sucked, and he hardly went around the ball on his second latw.
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when he does combos theyre done with PERFECT style and such flair, you cant tell me that the combo at 3:10 wasnt amazing
I think you mixed up freestylers. The perfect style you're talking about is Touzani. *drums* :biggrin:
On a more serious note... I never said that combo wasn't amazing or that he didn't do any good combos or that he isn't a good freestyler for that matter.
I just said that people go shit crazy about things that aren't that spectacular, just because JF did it. The latw-latw was the perfect example. He didn't even go around the ball on the second latw and these guys almost came in their shorts.
And IMO he doesn't have the perfect style & he tends to be too stiff at times, making him look kind off robotic. He does have a really good style, he look calm while doing tricks, but for me Touzani's closest to what I'd call a perfect style. Style, as many other things in freestyle football, isn't something universal, it depends on your personal liking.
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man i agree with mr pirner, but those last combos by JF were fkn awesome :bowdown: oli did some good shit too, his last combo was fantastic :cheers:
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Big fucking respect to John. Hes absolutely one of the best in the world, no doubt. But I have to agree with Miran Pirner. It is a big hullabaloo over JF when he doing stuff. But maybe he deserves it, he have after all, won some of the biggest freestyle tournament in the world, and yeah he have nice fucking style and creativity. But on the other hand, my skills are not so bad either, i want to say you guys should put more focus on me rather than John. Deal?
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The reason why we are so impressed by johns lower combos is that he is the first one who combines the control-style of freestylers like mr. woo or dan magness with the combo style that for example palle has. You cant compare john with combo freestylers like Fx or skora. When u compare him to them its obvious to see that he isnt on the same level. but he is such a great performer and has the best control on anything he does so its reeally cool that he brings some hard lower shit into his shows or his videos. No other control freestyler could do this.
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The reason why we are so impressed by johns lower combos is that he is the first one who combines the control-style of freestylers like mr. woo or dan magness with the combo style that for example palle has. You cant compare john with combo freestylers like Fx or skora. When u compare him to them its obvious to see that he isnt on the same level. but he is such a great performer and has the best control on anything he does so its reeally cool that he brings some hard lower shit into his shows or his videos. No other control freestyler could do this.
Fucking cheers to that :cheers:. Thats some hardcore explanation of the whole deal. Great work
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The reason why we are so impressed by johns lower combos is that he is the first one who combines the control-style of freestylers like mr. woo or dan magness with the combo style that for example palle has. You cant compare john with combo freestylers like Fx or skora. When u compare him to them its obvious to see that he isnt on the same level. but he is such a great performer and has the best control on anything he does so its reeally cool that he brings some hard lower shit into his shows or his videos. No other control freestyler could do this.
Fucking cheers to that :cheers:. Thats some hardcore explanation of the whole deal. Great work
Thank u..... i'm wondering how i can write such a text after being drunk yesterday :dontknow:
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uppers :bowdown:
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latw latw = wiggle
Anyhow the video was nice. I really enjoy his videos. Good style.
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the reason why people love john is because he is so consistant and unreal, i have never met someone so allround and consistant and i have met quite alot of freestylers. Also john is unlike anyone else, also he is a genuine freestyler like everyone here who loves kicking a ball around, if you ever meet JF in real life you will know what the fuss is about....
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wooowwww...good job man's!!!!good style for all freestyler....and tiernan.....myfriendz cool trick and cool style...Peace L.A. italian style :popcorn: :rockit:
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the reason why people love john is because he is so consistant and unreal, i have never met someone so allround and consistant and i have met quite alot of freestylers. Also john is unlike anyone else, also he is a genuine freestyler like everyone here who loves kicking a ball around, if you ever meet JF in real life you will know what the fuss is about....
Your point is: He doesn't put all his stuff in his vids?
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the reason why people love john is because he is so consistant and unreal, i have never met someone so allround and consistant and i have met quite alot of freestylers. Also john is unlike anyone else, also he is a genuine freestyler like everyone here who loves kicking a ball around, if you ever meet JF in real life you will know what the fuss is about....
Your point is: He doesn't put all his stuff in his vids?
no, my point is he is better in real life.
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lol, why? because in real life he only gets 1 try to do something and here he's got as many as he wants?
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lol, why? because in real life he only gets 1 try to do something and here he's got as many as he wants?
lol no you dont understand, you just have to meet him.
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i laugh at your sig everytime i see it Macca :P that kid is such a tard.
anyway YES john is made a fuss of, if you analyse anything in particular there are people who are better... except for consistancy and alroundness. not anyone else can do all the shit which he does at such a high level (and i think we're all agreeing he's high level in everything, just not the best) day in day out and in big tournaments. hes worked megahard to get that level and consistancy, and thats why he deserves a fuss now and again. just not all the time. which is stupid.
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I think it's you who doesn't understand what I was trying to say Macca. I didn't say I don't understand why people love him or his freestyle. I love his freestyle too, but I don't wet my pants when he does a atw-cross.
And btw, how can you call someone so allround when he doesn't do groudnmoves? People act as if groundmoves aren't a part of freestyle. And "he can do a few akkas" doesn't make someone good at groundmoves.
And good post sputnik, that's what I'm trying too say too.
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I think it's you who doesn't understand what I was trying to say Macca. I didn't say I don't understand why people love him or his freestyle. I love his freestyle too, but I don't wet my pants when he does a atw-cross.
And btw, how can you call someone so allround when he doesn't do groudnmoves? People act as if groundmoves aren't a part of freestyle. And "he can do a few akkas" doesn't make someone good at groundmoves.
And good post sputnik, that's what I'm trying too say too.
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he probs can do grounds, i have seen him do a few moves, how allround do you want him to be? :dontknow:
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HOW THER FUCK DID YOU GET THIS TAKE IT OFF ITS FOR A DVD NOT FOR YOUU!!!
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he doesnt edit well, which is the biggest part of freestyle according to josh
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he probs can do grounds, i have seen him do a few moves, how allround do you want him to be? :dontknow:
Where is the line between being allround and not being allround?
HOW THER FUCK DID YOU GET THIS TAKE IT OFF ITS FOR A DVD NOT FOR YOUU!!!
If it will be sold on a DVD for money, i would never seen it. So i think its good
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HOW THER FUCK DID YOU GET THIS TAKE IT OFF ITS FOR A DVD NOT FOR YOUU!!!
um well... its on the Jfreestyler youtube account... and the description is
John, Oli, Rick and Mark Tiernan perform in Birmingham promoting the new FREESTYLER Ball which will be out very soon! Thanks to Rick for the video! We hope that you enjoy it!
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he probs can do grounds, i have seen him do a few moves, how allround do you want him to be? :dontknow:
Where is the line between being allround and not being allround?
HOW THER FUCK DID YOU GET THIS TAKE IT OFF ITS FOR A DVD NOT FOR YOUU!!!
If it will be sold on a DVD for money, i would never seen it. So i think its good
that confused the fuck out of me lol
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Haha sorry Mac. But i was confused like hell to when i start thinking about that. Never mind :biggrin:
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Grrr John was not allowed to upload it..o well.. AND HE IS BETTER IN REAL LIFE..
So so soo much better than all you think && you do have 2 meet him to see for yourself ..
O Yeah and btw lil tip Youu might wana watch RIGHT till the end of the video ;)x
Over here in my section you don't double post because that means I have to delete one of the posts and I dont like to having to do stuff.
Consider this as a warning
/oLi
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O Yeah and btw lil tip Youu might wana watch RIGHT till the end of the video ;)x
OMG, he´s the first one to do latw-latw :bowdown:
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No DickFace RIGHT AT THE END LIKE AS IN LAST SECCOND OF THE VIDEO! :cursing:
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No DickFace RIGHT AT THE END LIKE AS IN LAST SECCOND OF THE VIDEO! :cursing:
shut the fuck up!
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I don´t like john´s style, it looks wierd... like wannabe abbas. Other than that, he´s a crazy freestyler... but I don´t think he is as perfect as some people tries to make him look.
No DickFace RIGHT AT THE END LIKE AS IN LAST SECCOND OF THE VIDEO! :cursing:
Well, nice creative move. Btw, your caps lock is sticked.
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No DickFace RIGHT AT THE END LIKE AS IN LAST SECCOND OF THE VIDEO! :cursing:
Kid, who the fuck are you to waltz in here and start insulting other people? It just makes you look stupid and proves you're a über noob...
So, get a grip on yourself and calm down.
@ Macca: Allround means covering all of the aspects of freestyle football. Like it or not, groundmoves are also a part. I'm not saying he's gotta do them as if was a street player from Holland, but look at Nam, Sean, JK, even Palle...
And what's with the whole "you have to meet him to see it" thing? All the top freestylers are even better in real life. And I'd love to meet him because his one of my favs, but I'm not that lucky to live in the UK and meet up with him just like that.
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Ahahaha...Your COOL! :)x
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@ Macca: Allround means covering all of the aspects of freestyle football. Like it or not, groundmoves are also a part. I'm not saying he's gotta do them as if was a street player from Holland, but look at Nam, Sean, JK, even Palle...
I do not post often, but read the most in here and nearly everytime I share your opinios, but not in this case.
For me freestyle is keeping the ball in the air (sit, lower, upper). freestyle is the same as airmoves. I don't know how to argue about it, because I can follow your point. but let us take... monta - they have to balls, one for freestyle and one for ground/match, they have seperated it. (I know, lame argumetion) but I think you got my point.
I will put it like:
Street football
- airmoves/freestyle
- sit, lower, upper
- groundmoves/match
- akka, panna, blabla
My conclusion: JF is an allrounder freestyler, but not an allround street footballer.
arhhh, way to off topic but whatever.
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Im just saying its different when you meet them for real, always is with freestylers, pro's or not. Also i know grounds are part of freestyle i even have some grounds in my videos, i am pretty sure john can do some groundmoves he just doesnt put it into his routine as he isnt a 'street' style freestyler. If he came out and did some groundmoves at the start of his performance it just wouldnt suit his freestyle, not saying groundmoves are gay in LP's or anything, because they are really cool!
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Acca ino what you mean in this video when i was editing it he did so much amazing shit....that i didnt put in..and he can do like every trick 1st time.. He is THE BEST IN THE WORLD for a reason :)X :banana:
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Acca ino what you mean in this video when i was editing it he did so much amazing shit....that i didnt put in..and he can do like every trick 1st time.. He is THE BEST IN THE WORLD for a reason :)X :banana:
looks like you never hear for Skora :down:
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Yeah he is a SHIT video freestyler john is a pro AMAZING freestyler Yeah Shuuush x :potty:
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pretty nice video from JF and the others. JF has a very nice style on his tricks, thats what I love about him. this miran guy is pretty smart with words really. its true what he says too. He can work on his 2nd latw and his atms but thats shouldnt be much of a problem to him. I gotta also agree with the alround thing. Grounds is freestyle and I dont know why I dont see it that much anymore as I used too. I miss watching ppl do crazy grounds. u definately need to do grounds if u want to be a good alrounder
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The best ;) :thumbsup:
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SlickDick, you are Farnworth´s whore.
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looks like you never hear for Skora :down:
Skora wasn't even the best at the Poland nationals, lol.
And Monta made 2 balls just to sell more shit and make more money, just like Adidas & Nike for example make 5 "different" balls from the same pattern, pure commercialization. It's practically the same ball, just different colors and low bounce (Monta).
Maybe I went a bit too far with the ground thing, but that's how I usually react when someone overemphasizes something, like here the allround thing.
And Toft, I understand your view, seeing as you're a street player, you like to keep the street and freestyle part separated. But I like to keep it all in the same basket. Btw, I can't believe I forgot to mention Touzani in the freestylers that do grounds, lol.
SlickDick, you are Farnworth´s whore.
(http://www.raptorschat.ca/forums/style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif)
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And Monta made 2 balls just to sell more shit and make more money, just like Adidas & Nike for example make 5 "different" balls from the same pattern, pure commercialization. It's practically the same ball, just different colors and low bounce (Monta).
Maybe I went a bit too far with the ground thing, but that's how I usually react when someone overemphasizes something, like here the allround thing.
And Toft, I understand your view, seeing as you're a street player, you like to keep the street and freestyle part separated. But I like to keep it all in the same basket. Btw, I can't believe I forgot to mention Touzani in the freestylers that do grounds, lol.
I know Monta made the balls to make money - but do not diss the balls just because of that I think there are fantastic (note: I have always used the monta balls). but that's another discusion. why I did mention it, was just so I had one argumention. I couldn't make anything better up because this is a difficult topic. It' based on the persons view. For me freestyle is just a synonym for airmoves (:
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Have any of youu met the world champion freestyler..
What NO
Awwww..
Unlucky I HAVE ;)
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Have any of youu met the world champion freestyler..
What NO
Awwww..
Unlucky I HAVE ;)
Nam The Man won Komball Kontest! so according to that Nam The Man is world champion freestyler!!!
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Have any of youu met the world champion freestyler..
What NO
Awwww..
Unlucky I HAVE ;)
i have... and after meeting him, there is no doubt in my mind that he is the worlds best... but this video isnt anything to go on, as it didnt really showcase any of his best stuff...
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pretty nice video from JF and the others. JF has a very nice style on his tricks, thats what I love about him. this miran guy is pretty smart with words really. its true what he says too. He can work on his 2nd latw and his atms but thats shouldnt be much of a problem to him. I gotta also agree with the alround thing. Grounds is freestyle and I dont know why I dont see it that much anymore as I used too. I miss watching ppl do crazy grounds. u definately need to do grounds if u want to be a good alrounder
Well... he's had this atm problem ever since i've seen him for the first time ;)
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Have any of youu met the world champion freestyler..
What NO
Awwww..
Unlucky I HAVE ;)
Nam The Man won Komball Kontest! so according to that Nam The Man is world champion freestyler!!!
no half of that tournament was french so you cant call it a world tournament
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''i have... and after meeting him, there is no doubt in my mind that he is the worlds best... but this video isnt anything to go on, as it didnt really showcase any of his best stuff...''
Thats What im trying to say.. he is soo much better in real life i dont no how but he is AMAZING..
And youu too Bevs yout the SEX! x
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Yes I agree about the not doing a nice atm, but he is really great, no doubt, he has great uppers (except atm) he has great lowers, and he has great sits, I also agree about kissing his ass about 2 latws since many people can do that, but he can do if he want to great LONG combo's (as it is shown in jimmy & John farnworth's vid (70+ tricks?)) he is still the best freestyler in the world with palle, but I agree that some people are kissing his ass too much
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to me, JF used to be a guy who was amazing at uppers, sits and soles...
recently, he is suddenly able to do pretty decent lower combos and sometimes manages to mix his own creativity in it...
the reason i think its so amazing is because he has improved out of sight in lowers, also i think the style of lower combos he does is really unique
why do you even care so much miran???
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Why do I care about what? JF or the ass kissing?
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basically, at the end of the day i am going to make a pointless post which has no point or sense slightly like this topic and you will be reading this now thinking wtf is he talking about well i dont know what i am talking about!
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1-0, Pirner.