religion

[a;sdlfkjas;df]

were you brainwashed into thinking that all muslim countries punish the rape victim instead of the rapist?

social stigma.  not punishment.  kind of like male rape in the united states.

don't go bashing Islam because of the amazing % of retarded Muslims there are who don't look at themselves

 :lol:

i wouldn't consider what i've done "bashing" islam.  in fact, i've been quite reserved

look at the top 30
none of them try to follow the sharia
look at the difference in numbers between those you mentioned and those above them
who cover up more? Muslim countries, or non-Muslim countries
obviously covering up more has to count for the number being less in muslim countries

seriously dude?  then what are the other 140 some odd countries doing right that islam isn't?

and again,

"DEFINITION: Total recorded rapes. Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence. Per capita figures expressed per 1,000 population."

if you want to talk about religion, question the main sources

why would i do that?  many things are perfect in theory.

your idea of female freedom brings about the sickening no. of rapes

i guess when coupled with personal irresponsibility, but it's very easy for the modern woman to greatly reduce her chances of being raped.

[Royal Freakiness]

why would i do that?  many things are perfect in theory.

ok then, you're actually questioning Muslims, not Islam
so this thread should be called something along the lines of the followers of the religions
Like many of the ppl who actually try to study islam, I believe that the 1.6 billion muslims or whatever don't represent Islam
so whatever you have against Islam is actually against the stupidity of the followers who have actually strayed AWAY from Islam
even I myself have strayed away from many of Islam's teachings. not to say that Islam teaches bad things, but because I am weak. like most humans are.
just saying. if you have anymore questions about the ppl who supposedly follow Islam, then I won't bother.

i guess when coupled with personal irresponsibility, but it's very easy for the modern woman to greatly reduce her chances of being raped

ok, like??? how does a "modern" woman reduce the chances of rape? how does she show cleavage and a lot of her lower body while not giving an incentive to men not to rape her?

i wouldn't consider what i've done "bashing" islam.  in fact, i've been quite reserved

yeah, bashing is not the right word  :bang:
I meant like seeing Islam as having faults

social stigma.  not punishment.  kind of like male rape in the united states.

well of course it brings a woman's honour down in front of ppl knowing that she got raped
if she was covered and was raped then that's a huge problem, and Allah would be pleased with her if she exposed the animal
if she wasn't covered properly, well the judges would be thinking, well it's your facking fault you got raped. you invited a rapist to frikkin rape you
whilst not forgetting to acknowledge that it's majorly the fault of the facking scrub nub who can't control himself
that's why it's better to cover up too. it's less of a social degrading issue if a woman gets raped whilst wearing very decent clothes unlike if the woman wore something more inviting.
it just shows how frikkin low some men can be. f!@#ing horny bastards

btw, I hope we're more like discussing rather than debating right? I don't want to get on the bad side of a moderator :-[

[Mike]

Of course the condom can slip from times to time, but it's the best protection there is. It's just as you claim covering girls up is the best way to prevent rapes; but a girl being covered can still be raped, so that's not bullet proof either, but it's still the way you choose to go.

Raping is bad, of course, but I don't see covering up girls as a solution. It's more like opression. Wouldn't it be better to come up with something that doesn't mean taking away ones liberty? There are better ways to reduce the ratio of raping than hiding the source.

A Man rapes a female, so in order to prevent that, you decide to cover them up. You don't see the irony?

[a;sdlfkjas;df]

ok then, you're actually questioning Muslims, not Islam
so this thread should be called something along the lines of the followers of the religions

that has kind of been the progression of this thread hasn't it?

ok, like??? how does a "modern" woman reduce the chances of rape? how does she show cleavage and a lot of her lower body while not giving an incentive to men not to rape her?

same way you would prevent any crime from happening to you.  rape is just like any other crime.  w/a little discretion, almost any of the instances in which you'd find yourself threatened can be prevented.

avoid traveling alone at night, avoid dark areas, avoid high crime areas, etc.

btw, I hope we're more like discussing rather than debating right? I don't want to get on the bad side of a moderator

it's fine.  you're not going to hurt my feelings

[Royal Freakiness]

Of course the condom can slip from times to time, but it's the best protection there is. It's just as you claim covering girls up is the best way to prevent rapes; but a girl being covered can still be raped, so that's not bullet proof either, but it's still the way you choose to go.

Raping is bad, of course, but I don't see covering up girls as a solution. It's more like opression. Wouldn't it be better to come up with something that doesn't mean taking away ones liberty? There are better ways to reduce the ratio of raping than hiding the source.

A Man rapes a female, so in order to prevent that, you decide to cover them up. You don't see the irony?

dude, what irony? it prevents it more or less since the female covered is less inviting to a horny bastard. or would you rather let it be that she gets raped?
ok genius, what other ways you think a woman can be protected from factards and to reduce the no. of factards?
Islam says, the rapist gets capital punishment if the judgement is in favour of the victim (as in it's true that she got raped)
and as Muslims, if the woman really is a muslim, she won't be brainwashed into thinking about the west's idea of liberty

for example, now when she goes out, she doesn't have to wear/buy the make-up she needs so she'd look ok in front of men. she doesn't need to think about what to wear when she goes out, just cover your adornments. and btw, Muslim women have a say in this and they support it. don't think the men just force them to do this. Islam is not only for men you know  
like for instance, women had the right to vote more than 1400 years ago. when did women have the right to vote in the west? what? 50/60 years ago?  :lol:
so your idea of us oppressing women is just...  :bs:

[Royal Freakiness]

Islam has its ways of preventing things. it covers all aspects of life, including eating/drinking or table manners to going to the bathroom and how you should behave inside it
like what you mentioned "plaxico burress". avoid traveling at night by yourself. Islam teaches us men to accompany your sisters, mother, wives, etc...
If you see in Saudi, there are frikkin women just walking by themselves, and in the flipping public, I saw 4 fags in a car wolf whistling a woman fully clothed. HORNY BASTARDS!  :cursing: 
Islam's solution? Men are not allowed to look at women in the public if they have bad thoughts. first look, if it initiates bad thoughts, look down.
if us Muslims followed Islam we would be in good terms with ALL non-Muslims
but unfortunately, no government in the muslim world follows Islam properly
for e.g. 5 months ago a close friend of my dad, one of the nicest ppl you could meet (yes he's particularly nice to non-Muslims), was imprisoned. for what? because the facking filipino embassy to saudi filed a complaint saying that he's been inviting a lot of pinoys to Islam and they accepted it. WOW!!! SAUDI ARABIA IS SO FACKING ISLAMIC!
that's why seriously, what all Muslims should be thinking is, the west, America, non-Muslims, Jews, etc... they're not the problem why Islam looks so f!@#ed up. it's coz of ourselves  :down:
just saying  :thumbsup:
I feel like a hypocrite

[Royal Freakiness]

I having a feeling my posts will bore ppl to sleep  :lol:

[SeBaS]

then stop posting

[Mikael]

Islam has its ways of preventing things. it covers all aspects of life, including eating/drinking or table manners to going to the bathroom and how you should behave inside it

That made me, rofl! Are we living in the ancient times? I'm pretty sure that if you're not a monkey, you'll know how to use bathrooms properly.  :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Royal Freakiness]

Islam has its ways of preventing things. it covers all aspects of life, including eating/drinking or table manners to going to the bathroom and how you should behave inside it

That made me, rofl! Are we living in the ancient times? I'm pretty sure that if you're not a monkey, you'll know how to use bathrooms properly.  :lol: :lol: :lol:

well ppl like you believe we evolved from apes   :thumbsup:
table manners as in, don't reach over the table to grab some food
eating as in don't talk/laugh while eating/chewing coz of the risk of choking
how to clean yourself when you're in the bathroom
not pee then zip your pants up 
wash the sausage and stuff

[Mikael]

Islam has its ways of preventing things. it covers all aspects of life, including eating/drinking or table manners to going to the bathroom and how you should behave inside it

That made me, rofl! Are we living in the ancient times? I'm pretty sure that if you're not a monkey, you'll know how to use bathrooms properly.  :lol: :lol: :lol:

well ppl like you believe we evolved from apes   :thumbsup:

People like you believe we were created by something "higher".  :thumbsup: At least, apes DO exist, unlike God.

The other funny thing that I notice - Buddhists NEVER argue about their religion, it's just the Christians and the Muslims, honestly - all of you are like fucking pigs fighting over a bucket of shit.

[Royal Freakiness]

table manners as in, don't reach over the table to grab some food
eating as in don't talk/laugh while eating/chewing coz of the risk of choking
how to clean yourself when you're in the bathroom
not pee then zip your pants up  
wash the sausage and stuff

just to make sure you don't miss that info

People like you believe we were created by something "higher".  Thumbs Up At least, apes DO exist, unlike God.

yeah, keep talking
apes learned how to communicate by making words and thought of washing themselves and how to eat on a plate with a fork and spoon/knife while they left their brethren to look like a bunch of ignorant animals 
 

The other funny thing that I notice - Buddhists NEVER argue about their religion, it's just the Christians and the Muslims, honestly - all of you are like fucking pigs fighting over a bucket of shit.

oh so now it's ok to believe in god of buddhism?
what's with atheists loving buddhists so much?
bucket of shit eh? exactly what bucket of shit are we talking about? apes becoming humans?  :lol: