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Re: Life after death after life?
« Reply #192 on: Feb 03, 2009, 03:00: AM »
well i remain skeptical about the Quran remaining completley unchanged in much teh same way as you reamin skeptical about evolution, but im not really too fussed so i'll just agree to disagree

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Re: Life after death after life?
« Reply #193 on: Feb 03, 2009, 04:58: AM »
even if we haven't "evolved," there have been well documented cases of speciation--new species being formed
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Re: Life after death after life?
« Reply #194 on: Feb 03, 2009, 06:03: AM »
Don't waste your time with ignorant masses. The Quran can easily be memorized. I know ordinary dudes who know the whole Quran by heart and they don't read it no where near a daily basis. At some points I memorized 7 parts out of the 30 its not that hard...... Don't forget I'm not even from an Arabic speaking background.

Secondly we don't disagree with evaluation all together of course organisms have to adapt and evolve over a very long period of time in order to survive. Evolution can be looked at as a means by which Allah diversifies life on earth. Allah alone, for instance, causes a nucleotide base to be deleted or added in a DNA sequence, thereby causing a frame shift mutation, which leads to the birth of a new species, which represents an evolutionary superior to its genetic predecessor, which passes on its DNA to its progeny, which results in a subsequent mutation, ad infinitum. Allah not only starts this process but He also sustains and directs every second of its execution and development. Islam does not reject aspects of Evolution.

But an Ape evolving into a human being please don't waste my time with that crap.

If Darwin was correct than how come we humans still haven't develop into something more intelligent and physically different than we are today?..... Humans have been around for a very very long time now. How come we haven't evolved further??  Smarten up.

humans have been around for 10 thousand years.  that's not even a blink of an eye in the timeline of life on earth.  before you accept or reject anything, understand it completely first.
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Re: Life after death after life?
« Reply #195 on: Feb 03, 2009, 06:15: AM »
you ppl still think the Qur'an was written
we give you the answer, you still close your minds



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Re: Life after death after life?
« Reply #196 on: Feb 03, 2009, 08:53: AM »
even if we haven't "evolved," there have been well documented cases of speciation--new species being formed
found

somebody must have snuck that shit into the lab

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Re: Life after death after life?
« Reply #197 on: Feb 03, 2009, 10:19: AM »
even if we haven't "evolved," there have been well documented cases of speciation--new species being formed
found

somebody must have snuck that shit into the lab

New species like what?
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Re: Life after death after life?
« Reply #199 on: Feb 03, 2009, 11:15: AM »
The new species it talks of is hybrids, crossing two different species. Just the same as a mule where you cross a donkey with a horse. They cannot produce offspring though. It doesnt talk about new species that arose in the environment from evolution... This is just scientists crossing organisms to see what they get.

Forgive me if i missed an area where they could.
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Re: Life after death after life?
« Reply #200 on: Feb 03, 2009, 12:12: PM »
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Forgive me if i missed an area where they could.

you did.  5.2ish on = plants w/o hybridization

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Just the same as a mule where you cross a donkey with a horse.

mules are sterile.  most of these listed aren't

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This is just scientists crossing organisms to see what they get.

most of these aren't

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Re: Life after death after life?
« Reply #201 on: Feb 03, 2009, 12:16: PM »
the only problem with bringing in this link, conner, is that these concepts aren't readily understandible, where i'm sure you don't even have a full grasp of it all. so yes, there is a lot of evidence to prove various different things, but it's not so black and white to where we can understand exactly what it means.

and i think a big reason why people reject some scientific findings is that they don't want to try to understand or they think scientists act in an overly esoteric way, so they just block it all out.

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Re: Life after death after life?
« Reply #202 on: Feb 03, 2009, 12:30: PM »
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the only problem with bringing in this link, conner, is that these concepts aren't readily understandible, where i'm sure you don't even have a full grasp of it all. so yes, there is a lot of evidence to prove various different things, but it's not so black and white to where we can understand exactly what it means.

yeah, but this isn't something that i'm overwhelmingly interested in (or know an overwhelming amount of shit about).  so, i can't really be fucked to dig up a bunch of shit.

these are pretty easy, and if they aren't, it's pretty easy to look up what's in question.

the information is out there, and if it's not, it's a short trip to the library away.  i posted a pretty basic primer on evolution earlier that included a few basic examples of speciation, or speciation set in motion.

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Re: Life after death after life?
« Reply #203 on: Feb 03, 2009, 12:35: PM »
of course, and i think that everyone should read into these matters. i used to brush science away [i never worshiped a book though] but with research and reading i find that it's not very farfetched at all that intelligent design, or god, can co-exist with evolution.