Combat Sports/Martial Arts Thread

[AznMagic]

personally.... mma pisses me off.  they think they are the best fighters in the world and think they're all big shit.  most mma fighters have HORRIBLY sloppy techniques... and while they are good fighters, they are SPORTS fighters.

which is why I like GSP...his technique is flawless IMO...his kicks are so perfect...and thats in a style of fighting with grappling, which makes kicking pretty dangerous.
@owen: I agree sort of...but then again, I find that doing only one style makes your technique one dimensional, whic is why I plan to get out of Shotokan/Judo one of these days and try something else...but only once I've got my black belt -- meaning I'll have to train more than I do...

i like to go by a more jeet kune do philosophy.  mma was starting to kinda get with that but just kinda modified itself into a sport of its own... i guess u could say that "mma" or ufc kinda shit is a style of its own nowadays.  muay thai and BJJ is mostly all it is... with bits of wrestling, kickboxing, and really crappy boxing thrown in there too.

and a lot of mma guys take the shit out of traditional styles like kung fu, karate, tkd, hkd, etc. etc.  they're just way too narrow minded.

mma by concept is awesome!  i'd like to get into it and have some fights myself.  but the commercial aspects of it kinda ruins it, as well as a lotta thickheaded dudes who love it....

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really crappy boxing thrown in there too.

don't sugar coat it.  it's glorified brawling at times

 :lol:

and a lot of mma guys take the shit out of traditional styles like kung fu, karate, tkd, hkd, etc. etc.  they're just way too narrow minded.

while i'm hardly an expert, i think a lot of it has to do with the perception of traditional martial arts in most of america (and i'm sure elsewhere) as a children's "sport"

[TJ Hooker]

really crappy boxing thrown in there too.

don't sugar coat it.  it's glorified brawling at times

 :lol:

and a lot of mma guys take the shit out of traditional styles like kung fu, karate, tkd, hkd, etc. etc.  they're just way too narrow minded.

while i'm hardly an expert, i think a lot of it has to do with the perception of traditional martial arts in most of america (and i'm sure elsewhere) as a children's "sport[/b]"

Sammy Schelt? Georges St.Pierre? Lyoto Machida?

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seth petruzelli  :lol:

a lot of mma

is what he was going for

it's hard to say anything when you're eating fists, but it's very easy to knock it at other times.  i think that many people don't realize that it's not so much about the individual art, and that while a particular art may be applied more effectively to a certain situation, it's more about the individual that's fighting and being able to incorporate different techniques from different arts to make yourself a more well-rounded fighter. 

[TJ Hooker]

seth petruzelli  :lol:

a lot of mma

is what he was going for

it's hard to say anything when you're eating fists, but it's very easy to knock it at other times.  i think that many people don't realize that it's not so much about the individual art, and that while a particular art may be applied more effectively to a certain situation, it's more about the individual that's fighting and being able to incorporate different techniques from different arts to make yourself a more well-rounded fighter. 

I highly disagree pimpin

[TheGodEmperor]

personally.... mma pisses me off.  they think they are the best fighters in the world and think they're all big shit.  most mma fighters have HORRIBLY sloppy techniques... and while they are good fighters, they are SPORTS fighters.

which is why I like GSP...his technique is flawless IMO...his kicks are so perfect...and thats in a style of fighting with grappling, which makes kicking pretty dangerous.
@owen: I agree sort of...but then again, I find that doing only one style makes your technique one dimensional, whic is why I plan to get out of Shotokan/Judo one of these days and try something else...but only once I've got my black belt -- meaning I'll have to train more than I do...

i like to go by a more jeet kune do philosophy.  mma was starting to kinda get with that but just kinda modified itself into a sport of its own... i guess u could say that "mma" or ufc kinda shit is a style of its own nowadays.  muay thai and BJJ is mostly all it is... with bits of wrestling, kickboxing, and really crappy boxing thrown in there too.

and a lot of mma guys take the shit out of traditional styles like kung fu, karate, tkd, hkd, etc. etc.  they're just way too narrow minded.

mma by concept is awesome!  i'd like to get into it and have some fights myself.  but the commercial aspects of it kinda ruins it, as well as a lotta thickheaded dudes who love it....

I think that the style that Bruce Lee incented looks interesting...I'm not dure what it's called...

I'd be interested in BJJ, even though I'm not really the grappling type. I like to dodge and stay on my feet. Capoeira would benefit me, even though it is ridiculously stylized, and so would muay thai...all kinds of things to think about...

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seth petruzelli  :lol:

a lot of mma

is what he was going for

it's hard to say anything when you're eating fists, but it's very easy to knock it at other times.  i think that many people don't realize that it's not so much about the individual art, and that while a particular art may be applied more effectively to a certain situation, it's more about the individual that's fighting and being able to incorporate different techniques from different arts to make yourself a more well-rounded fighter. 

I highly disagree pimpin

which is fine but give more than three individuals as examples.  this is not to say that i believe that that's all of mma or even most of mma, but there are a fair many out there that are like that.  shit, there are some that won't even give muay thai or bjj a try.

I'm not dure what it's called

jeet kune do

[TheGodEmperor]

Normally, the ones who are more experienced in the 'art' part of martial arts are better fighters because their technique is better. Just putting that out there...

[TJ Hooker]

Normally, the ones who are more experienced in the 'art' part of martial arts are better fighters because their technique is better. Just putting that out there...

nah, chuck liddel , rampage and forrest have been dominating that light heavy weight division for awhile, and they all just brawlers and wrestlers son. Not true at all TF10

[TJ Hooker]

seth petruzelli  :lol:

a lot of mma

is what he was going for

it's hard to say anything when you're eating fists, but it's very easy to knock it at other times.  i think that many people don't realize that it's not so much about the individual art, and that while a particular art may be applied more effectively to a certain situation, it's more about the individual that's fighting and being able to incorporate different techniques from different arts to make yourself a more well-rounded fighter. 

I highly disagree pimpin

which is fine but give more than three individuals as examples.  this is not to say that i believe that that's all of mma or even most of mma, but there are a fair many out there that are like that.  shit, there are some that won't even give muay thai or bjj a try.

I'm not dure what it's called

jeet kune do

Coincidently my man, The 3 I mentioned happen to be dominating or have dominated in the past. Machida, tooled Tito, and GSP has been that dude forever now.

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Normally, the ones who are more experienced in the 'art' part of martial arts are better fighters because their technique is better. Just putting that out there...

yeah...

i think that you can look at every elite fighter nowadays and notice that they are extremely technical in something:

fedor=sambo, judo
anderson silva=muay thai w/a black belt in bjj
etc.

nah, chuck liddel , rampage and forrest have been dominating that light heavy weight division for awhile, and they all just brawlers and wrestlers son. Not true at all TF10

it may seem that way, but they are all very technical fighters.  even if they are just wrestlers, they are very technical wrestlers (even if it isn't a martial art). 

chuck lidell--kempo, wrestling (ncaa d1 wrestler).  good, not elite, bjj
rampage--wrestled at the collegiate level.  trained heavily in boxing
forrest griffin--underrated bjj (trains no-gi a lot).  much more than a brawler on his feet

Coincidently my man, The 3 I mentioned happen to be dominating or have dominated in the past. Machida, tooled Tito, and GSP has been that dude forever now.

definitely, i wasn't disputing that.  they're all great fighters.  that was never the issue.  it isn't that it can't work.  the issue is that some people within the mma world automatically write off traditional martial arts, which happens

[AznMagic]

seth petruzelli  :lol:

a lot of mma

is what he was going for

it's hard to say anything when you're eating fists, but it's very easy to knock it at other times.  i think that many people don't realize that it's not so much about the individual art, and that while a particular art may be applied more effectively to a certain situation, it's more about the individual that's fighting and being able to incorporate different techniques from different arts to make yourself a more well-rounded fighter. 

definitely true, i concur