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[cigar omar]

Let me correct that typo. The one they won he deserved, but the other one should have gone to Riq.

Kaka WAS better last season and that's why he won the award. The award doesn't fully consider what's happening this year. He has not done so well this year. So far, Ronaldo has been better.

I'm talking about last year, this year is not over yet.


Also how they gonna put Messi Ahead of Drogba? Last season he was an animal he preformed every game won 2 trophies with Chelsea and helped Chelsea reach the CL semis. if Ronaldo was mentioned than Drogba should be as well but he is not. What about Totti he scored the most goals in Europe and he did it from Midfield. The award is getting stupid its seems to be going to who ever is selling the most shirts or has the highest overall in fifa 07. Its pathetic.

 

so so true. this is why i think Serie A is always in the shadow of world media (for its good reasons) for example Toni scored 33 goals in one season for Serie A. people just said ohhh its a far less superior league. Look at what hes doing now at Bayern Munich. Totti's season last season was amazing along with Bianchi's who proved he can provide goals yet in the Prem he was hardly played and when he did play he scored or provided assists. it wasnt long before he was forced back to Italy. Chelsea signed Crespo who didnt do too bad but he was quickly whored out on loan which he shined at AC Milan which is clear during the CL 2005 and is performing well for Inter at this day. peple just say ohh its Serie A's quality which is Poorer according to most thick cunts who hang around pubs all day talking about football like they invented it when half the rumours they say are from The Sun Newspaper which has more shit and rubbish than www.goal.com Serie A clubs prove all the time in competitions and the same with the Italian national team. The premiership is just far over hyped. and the style of play is not too great at times and are different from other leagues. proving that Serie A is a dominant league.

If the first things that come to your mind when Serie A is mention is "cheats" then you are clearly not open to the other cheating and scandoulous ways of the other leagues over the seasons.

CL Final AC Milan - Marseille (won) - it was revoked because of fixing
Football Bungs several premiership managers illegally approaching youth players
The recent premiship club raid with portsmouth, newcastle, rangers
German Cup Final a few years ago fixed
Arsenal paying a belgian club £1 million to find youth players

theres plenty of other examples.

Well said Chenko. Seria is a great league the way the Seria A teams rip up the CL is proof of this. Sure they have some crowd problems and low turn out on game day, but every league has its problems. Premiership looks like the best league in the world because of the way its marketed, if you show it more than the other leagues on tv around the world people have no choice people will like it more specially those who do not know much about the other leagues. This is usually the case in America, Australia, Canada and Asia. I remember when I was in Africa we used to go to the saloon Tuesday Seria A day used to get the most people. Premier League day wasn't as popular everyone used to talk about and support Italian clubs their was a real buzz about the league. I like premier league don't get me wrong but last season around semifinal time when 3 teams made the semis and EPL coaches/people where saying premier league is a superior to other leagues angered me and Milan still end up winning it.

[cigar omar]

Why would I post someone else's opinions?
Just wondering because they are very shitty.

I'm talking about right now France > Brasil.
Not many teams are better than Brasil. Argentina learned that lesson in the summer. Meanwhile, France was off losing to Scotland or something struggling for a spot in the Euro.

Miles ahead of Riquilme? thats thats absurd Messi is fighting for a spot on the Barcelona side only made 63 appearances since 03.
Messi is just back from a month or so's injury. Fighting for a spot? Are you really paying attention to what is going on?

He wins nothing last year
It bothers me when people act as if one man wins trophies, I remember the last time Barcalona won something and it sure as hell was won by 11 players not one.

Messi would not have that kind of impact.
Right, because, you just know.


What on earth has Messi done to even get mentioned.

Again, you fail to realize that one man does not win trophies. Teams do, that is why the trophies have the team name on it.

You've convinced me he totally deserved to be second best player in the world I have never seen goals like those. 
You do realize Drogba has scored better goals and more important goals than those.  :nopity:

Ronaldo played a key role for united, Kaka played a key role for Milan of course players influence the way games and campaigns go for teams. Messi did not why should he be mentioned in front of key players like Drogs, and Totti?

the EPL is one of the worst league in football history. i'd rather play in the greek league then there. it has no tempo. its just kick it to the other side and shoot from 30 or so yards out

Kick back a little its not that pathetic.

how many players have done that in their lives. riquelme is much better then messi. i realy like this topic.

one of the greatest in football history

A genius.
 

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You've convinced me he totally deserved to be second best player in the world I have never seen goals like those. 

Messi is currently leading Barcalona in goals in La Liga, the same Barcalona with Thierry Henry, Samuel Eto'o (a bit injury plagued), Ronaldinho, Deco, Iniesta, these very stars that "outshine" him. Last season, only Ronaldinho had more goals than him. And you are still thinking that he is having trouble breaking into the first team?

I've shared Messi's "resume" before and I don't mind doing it again. Compared to Riquelme's:

20 Year old Lionel Messi:

Golden Ball: FIFA U-20 World Cup: 2005
Golden Boot: FIFA U-20 World Cup: 2005
Golden Boy: 2005
Bravo Award: 2007
World Soccer Young Player of the Year: 2006, 2007
Olimpia de Plata: Argentinian Player of the Year: 2005
FIFPro World Young Player of the Year: 2006
FIFPro World XI: 2007
EFE Trophy: Best Ibero-American Player in La Liga: 2007
Best foreign player in La Liga: 2007
Copa America Best Young Player: 2007
France Football Player of the Year:
3rd place: 2007
World Soccer Footballer of the Year:
2nd place: 2007
FIFA World Player of the Year:
2nd place: 2007
SI Latino's 2007 Sportsman of the Year: 2007

Now compare it to the 29 year old Riquelme's:

2007 Copa Libertadores' Most Valuable Player
2007 Copa Libertadores (Boca Juniors)
2006 Nominated for FIFA World Player of the Year
2005 Nominated for FIFA World Player of the Year
2004 UEFA Intertoto Cup (Villarreal CF)
2001 Copa Libertadores (Boca Juniors)
2001 South American Footballer of the Year
2000 Argentine Apertura Championship (Boca Juniors)
2000 Intercontinental Cup (Boca Juniors)
2000 Copa Libertadores (Boca Juniors)
1999 Argentine Clausura Championship (Boca Juniors)
1998 Argentine Apertura Championship (Boca Juniors)
1997 FIFA's World Youth Championship (under-20)


The fact is, Riquleme failed to put his stamp on a big name club. Every World Player of the year has done this. You go and look at every world player of the year, and you find that they have been able to break into squad of a top notch club in Europe. Riquleme failed in his time at Barcalona. He was then loaned to Villareal where he had been great; mind you, on Villareal. It wasn't even him who lead the team to that semi final, it was due to the brilliant Diego Forlan when he lead La Liga in scoring to secure Villareal a Champions League spot. Yeah, we can start showing videos of brilliant goals, because Riquelme has scored some great goals, but so has Messi. And when it comes down to it, it already looks as if Messi is going to be (i think he already is) one of Barcalona's best players over the next few years. Riquelme did well at Villareal, but did not do well to support his claim of being the world's best by moving to a big club. This is key, this is essential in being the world's best; you must play with the world's best, and be able to shine.

Something i disagree with: Thierry Henry not winning the FIFA World player of the year when he lead England in goals, lead his team to the Champions League Final (Arsenals first), and helped France get to the World Cup Final. Cannavaro ended up winning, which i'm sure most people disagree with. This is also the year Henry broke Arsenal's goal scoring record and move into 3rd in Englands all time scoring list.

[Adi]

Haha, to say Riquelme is much better than Messi is :bang:

Messi at the age of 20 is just as good, if not better, than Riquelme ever was. Not only does he score, create, but he also dribbles his way through the impossible. He's a much more dangerous player than Riquelme. It's as simple as that. Riquelme is more of a classic playmaker, but one that can be shut down in a game. He's been shut down quite a few times and most big teams don't want him. There's a reason. Bayern didn't even want to mess with him when he was struggling to get minutes at Villareal.

What about Totti he scored the most goals in Europe and he did it from Midfield.

Totti deserves all the credit but please... he did not play as a midfielder. In most games he played as the forward. Just look at the starting line ups and you'll see that he's playing as the true forward and sometimes just underneath the striker. It's pretty much what Rooney is playing.

C.Ronaldo is more of a midfielder than Totti and he's scoring just as much right now.

I have to go now but I'll go into further detail later if someone wants to comment on my post.

And to finish it, please don't talk so much crap about the Premiership. It's clearly the most entertaining league in the world. And those of you who say it's slow, what the hell have you been watching for the past 5 years? Team like Arsenal and Man U are running things and not just through long balls. I suppose if the last English game you've seen was from 10-15 years ago, then you would have a point. Right now however, that's not the case. The game is fast, powerful, entertaining, and packed with good players even though they are mainly foreign.

Don't get me wrong, Italy and Spain probably have more talent overall, but the game broadcasts, empty stadiums, and cheating is not doing it. Not only that, but the Italian style of play puts me to sleep. I think two mid-table Premiership teams are often more fun to watch than some of the top Italian teams. And if the Premiership is so predictable as someone said, then what the hell is Inter Milan doing?

Melbourne, Messi IS a key player for Barcelona right now. Barca has at least 5-8 superstars on the team so it's not easy to stand out. Messi has been in superb form for 2 years now. I don't know how you can not think that's worth a top 3 mentioning. He does it with class and flair, and is just as effective in creating as your classical playmakers. I know Drogba deserves to be mentioned in the top 3 and he was right around there. It was just that close. I've been watching a shit load of Barcelona games over the past 2 years and Messi really deserves a top 3 mention.

 :hello:

[cigar omar]

The fact is, Riquleme failed to put his stamp on a big name club. Every World Player of the year has done this. You go and look at every world player of the year, and you find that they have been able to break into squad of a top notch club in Europe. Riquleme failed in his time at Barcalona. He was then loaned to Villareal where he had been great; mind you, on Villareal. It wasn't even him who lead the team to that semi final, it was due to the brilliant Diego Forlan when he lead La Liga in scoring to secure Villareal a Champions League spot. Yeah, we can start showing videos of brilliant goals, because Riquelme has scored some great goals, but so has Messi. And when it comes down to it, it already looks as if Messi is going to be (i think he already is) one of Barcalona's best players over the next few years. Riquelme did well at Villareal, but did not do well to support his claim of being the world's best by moving to a big club. This is key, this is essential in being the world's best; you must play with the world's best, and be able to shine.

Something i disagree with: Thierry Henry not winning the FIFA World player of the year when he lead England in goals, lead his team to the Champions League Final (Arsenals first), and helped France get to the World Cup Final. Cannavaro ended up winning, which i'm sure most people disagree with. This is also the year Henry broke Arsenal's goal scoring record and move into 3rd in Englands all time scoring list.

When its Henry is fucked over the award is bullshit. But when Totti and Drogba are put below Messi who didn't even come close to them last year its legitimate? what kind of logic is that.

The brilliant Diego Folrlan?  :lol:. Where was Forlan before Riquelme joined the club and where is he now?. Riq is the one that bough out the best in Forlan with his brilliant play in the midfield. 


Messi has a better Resume than Van Nitselroy dose that make him a better player than Nitselroy? I think if Messi needed someone to hold his dick the next time he took a piss he would call a few people in this thread.

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When its Henry is fucked over the award is bullshit. But when Totti and Drogba are put below Messi who didn't even come close to them last year its legitimate? what kind of logic is that.

The brilliant Diego Folrlan?  :lol:. Where was Forlan before Riquelme joined the club and where is he now?. Riq is the one that bough out the best in Forlan with his brilliant play in the midfield. 


Messi has a better Resume than Van Nitselroy dose that make him a better player than Nitselroy? I think if Messi needed someone to hold his dick the next time he took a piss he would call a few people in this thread.

To start off, don't overlook things that i say. I want you to confront the fact that Riquelme cannot handle being at a big club, and how he has never been able to even shine at a big club, and I want to hear how you defend this. What excuse do you have for why he cannot get signed by a top European club? Every world player of the year has been on a top team. Where the fuck is Riquelme?

Was Drogba in the Champions League final? Was Drogba in the World Cup Final? In the same year? Is Drogba Chelsea's all time leading goal scorer? No. Drogba had one fantastic season. That's it. How many goals does he have? I've seen Henry get the golden boot in the EPL when he missed quite a few games out injured.


"Where was Forlan before Riquelme joined the club and where is he now?"

Where was he? Manchester United  :hello: Right now? He is at Athletico Madrid. 16 appearances, 7 goals. Where the fuck is Riquelme? He had to run back to Boca because he knows that he can't cut it in a top team. Stop denying this fact, stop overlooking it. Even Forlan had a decent little time at Manchester United for 2 years.

Forlan: 106 appearances for Villareal, 54 goals. Hmm that is a little over a goal every other game. His first season there, pichichi :down:

Messi is probably a better all around player than Ruud is, in terms of dribbling ability, speed, and quickness. But Ruud is a fox in the box, and not many can come close to his goal scoring ability. Ruud led the EPL in scoring once, so according to you he should be the world player of the year? Ruud led La Liga last season. World player of the year? :dontknow:

"I think if Messi needed someone to hold his dick the next time he took a piss he would call a few people in this thread."

Stop with your "hardcore" attitude. Stop with all of your remarks that you think make you sound hard. You have the characteristics of an "internet gangster".

[Rude]

Haha ELITE owns..  :cheers:

[cigar omar]

When its Henry is fucked over the award is bullshit. But when Totti and Drogba are put below Messi who didn't even come close to them last year its legitimate? what kind of logic is that.

The brilliant Diego Folrlan?  :lol:. Where was Forlan before Riquelme joined the club and where is he now?. Riq is the one that bough out the best in Forlan with his brilliant play in the midfield. 


Messi has a better Resume than Van Nitselroy dose that make him a better player than Nitselroy? I think if Messi needed someone to hold his dick the next time he took a piss he would call a few people in this thread.

To start off, don't overlook things that i say. I want you to confront the fact that Riquelme cannot handle being at a big club, and how he has never been able to even shine at a big club, and I want to hear how you defend this. What excuse do you have for why he cannot get signed by a top European club? Every world player of the year has been on a top team. Where the fuck is Riquelme?

Was Drogba in the Champions League final? Was Drogba in the World Cup Final? In the same year? Is Drogba Chelsea's all time leading goal scorer? No. Drogba had one fantastic season. That's it. How many goals does he have? I've seen Henry get the golden boot in the EPL when he missed quite a few games out injured.


"Where was Forlan before Riquelme joined the club and where is he now?"

Where was he? Manchester United  :hello: Right now? He is at Athletico Madrid. 16 appearances, 7 goals. Where the fuck is Riquelme? He had to run back to Boca because he knows that he can't cut it in a top team. Stop denying this fact, stop overlooking it. Even Forlan had a decent little time at Manchester United for 2 years.

Forlan: 106 appearances for Villareal, 54 goals. Hmm that is a little over a goal every other game. His first season there, pichichi :down:

Messi is probably a better all around player than Ruud is, in terms of dribbling ability, speed, and quickness. But Ruud is a fox in the box, and not many can come close to his goal scoring ability. Ruud led the EPL in scoring once, so according to you he should be the world player of the year? Ruud led La Liga last season. World player of the year? :dontknow:

"I think if Messi needed someone to hold his dick the next time he took a piss he would call a few people in this thread."

Stop with your "hardcore" attitude. Stop with all of your remarks that you think make you sound hard. You have the characteristics of an "internet gangster".

How you gonna say Riquelme can't handle playing for a big club when at Barcelona he was played as a winger. I've seen you use the same excuse for Henry not being successful at Juventus. Hypocrite. Boca is not a big club? Boca are South American champions came second in World club competition so technically they are the second best club in the world, don't be stupid.

The diffrence between Forlan and United and Athletico and Forlan at Villareal with Riquelme is that he wasn't top scorer in Europe at united or now at Athletico.

Was Drogba in the Champions League final? Was Drogba in the World Cup Final? In the same year? Is Drogba Chelsea's all time leading goal scorer? No. Drogba had one fantastic season. That's it. How many goals does he have? I've seen Henry get the golden boot in the EPL when he missed quite a few games out injured.

And Im sure Messi is all of this seeing as he is 2nd best in the world and Drogba is not. Who are you kidding even you know that these awards are unfair.

What would I gain form trying to look hard on the internet? This is how I would talk to you if we where debating in real life. Your obviously observing too much taking a forum too seriously get a fucking life..  And what make you think I care if a fagot like you on the other side of the world thinks I'm an internet gangster?... 

[manutd.]

I'm just going to expand on what Adi said about the Premier League..

Look at how close it is, honestly, the top 2, even top 3, are really close, it's like a battle to the finish. Next let's look at the Champion's League spots,.. so many teams battling for that 4th spot. Liverpool may be out of the CL after finishing 2nd last year, .. and then you've got the UEFA Cup spots, those have always been a battle, and ofcourse look at all the teams fighting relegation. No matter which team you support in the Premier League, your team is battling it out. The Premier League has so much flare in it now with all the foreign players, each team has a different style so it's fun to watch. You can expect to see goals, and you will actually see them.

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When its Henry is fucked over the award is bullshit. But when Totti and Drogba are put below Messi who didn't even come close to them last year its legitimate? what kind of logic is that.

The brilliant Diego Folrlan?  :lol:. Where was Forlan before Riquelme joined the club and where is he now?. Riq is the one that bough out the best in Forlan with his brilliant play in the midfield. 


Messi has a better Resume than Van Nitselroy dose that make him a better player than Nitselroy? I think if Messi needed someone to hold his dick the next time he took a piss he would call a few people in this thread.

To start off, don't overlook things that i say. I want you to confront the fact that Riquelme cannot handle being at a big club, and how he has never been able to even shine at a big club, and I want to hear how you defend this. What excuse do you have for why he cannot get signed by a top European club? Every world player of the year has been on a top team. Where the fuck is Riquelme?

Was Drogba in the Champions League final? Was Drogba in the World Cup Final? In the same year? Is Drogba Chelsea's all time leading goal scorer? No. Drogba had one fantastic season. That's it. How many goals does he have? I've seen Henry get the golden boot in the EPL when he missed quite a few games out injured.


"Where was Forlan before Riquelme joined the club and where is he now?"

Where was he? Manchester United  :hello: Right now? He is at Athletico Madrid. 16 appearances, 7 goals. Where the fuck is Riquelme? He had to run back to Boca because he knows that he can't cut it in a top team. Stop denying this fact, stop overlooking it. Even Forlan had a decent little time at Manchester United for 2 years.

Forlan: 106 appearances for Villareal, 54 goals. Hmm that is a little over a goal every other game. His first season there, pichichi :down:

Messi is probably a better all around player than Ruud is, in terms of dribbling ability, speed, and quickness. But Ruud is a fox in the box, and not many can come close to his goal scoring ability. Ruud led the EPL in scoring once, so according to you he should be the world player of the year? Ruud led La Liga last season. World player of the year? :dontknow:

"I think if Messi needed someone to hold his dick the next time he took a piss he would call a few people in this thread."

Stop with your "hardcore" attitude. Stop with all of your remarks that you think make you sound hard. You have the characteristics of an "internet gangster".

How you gonna say Riquelme can't handle playing for a big club when at Barcelona he was played as a winger. I've seen you use the same excuse for Henry not being successful at Juventus. Hypocrite. Boca is not a big club? Boca are South American champions came second in World club competition so technically they are the second best club in the world, don't be stupid.

The diffrence between Forlan and United and Athletico and Forlan at Villareal with Riquelme is that he wasn't top scorer in Europe at united or now at Athletico.

And Im sure Messi is all of this seeing as he is 2nd best in the world and Drogba is not. Who are you kidding even you know that these awards are unfair.

What would I gain form trying to look hard on the internet? This is how I would talk to you if we where debating in real life. Your obviously observing too much taking a forum too seriously get a fucking life..  And what make you think I care if a fagot like you on the other side of the world thinks I'm an internet gangster?... 

It is worthless to try and debate with someone who throws around curse words and insults, and if that is how you conduct yourself in real life, it is even worse than being an "internet gangster". I'll put it to rest. If it makes you feel better, Drogba should have won :thumbsup:

Good day.

[Adi]

Boo... no comments to my posts. I want this to continue.

ELITE is making some great arguments. I think he's making a stronger case than melbourne although melbourne is doing a good job as well.

Boca is a big club with a great following in Argentina, but that's where it stops. The big teams in Europe have a following all over the world and perhaps have much more pressure on them because there is much more competition across Europe than just in Argentina.

Riquelme couldn't cut it in center mid for Barcelona so he got pushed out wide. Not sure whose fault that is but I'm assuming he wasn't better than the other center mids so he got moved out of his position. Getting moved out wide is better than getting moved to the bench.

[Tito]

I'm just going to expand on what Adi said about the Premier League..

Look at how close it is, honestly, the top 2, even top 3, are really close, it's like a battle to the finish. Next let's look at the Champion's League spots,.. so many teams battling for that 4th spot. Liverpool may be out of the CL after finishing 2nd last year, .. and then you've got the UEFA Cup spots, those have always been a battle, and ofcourse look at all the teams fighting relegation. No matter which team you support in the Premier League, your team is battling it out. The Premier League has so much flare in it now with all the foreign players, each team has a different style so it's fun to watch. You can expect to see goals, and you will actually see them.

we are talking about the predictable league that is EPL