bolla i think you mean what tpaktopuct wrote. it's the same as hatw-satw nt indeed. but try this: if you have atw-cross you can do it 2 ways: normal or nt. atw-amatw will always be the same. putting nt behind it doesn't make since since the minimum limit of touches is already there (so you can't skip a touch that will make it nt)