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Re: More important. Managers or Players
« Reply #12 on: Jun 04, 2008, 04:31: AM »
I think a great manager like Mourinho won the CL with Porto. When you see average teams succeed usually its because of the manager. He has to be able to motivate his players and win games with tactics.

As for TFs challange

Van der Sar out - Canizares / Coupet in
Patrice Evra out - Taye Taiwo in
Nemanja Vidi? out - Micah Richards / Lucio
Firdinad out - Phillippe Mexes in
Neville out - Alves in
Paul Scholes out -  Nasri
Giggs out - Manuel Fernandes in
Owen Hargreaves out - Collocini / Albelda in
Nani out Guardado / Robben in
C. Ronaldo out - Franck Ribéry/ Quaresma in
Rooney  :lol: out - Benjani/ Pauleta / Berbatov/ Morientez / Kuranyi ect in

Its much too easy to replace players.

That team is nowhere near as good though, you egg. Micah Ricahrds? Mexas? Taye Taiwo? Not near any of those United players they replaced.

You are making a terrible point and are digging yourself further into a hole
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Re: More important. Managers or Players
« Reply #13 on: Jun 04, 2008, 04:38: AM »
Do you even watch other leagues besides the premier league and Manchester United? People on this site make me laugh honestly.  :lol:

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Re: More important. Managers or Players
« Reply #14 on: Jun 04, 2008, 05:32: AM »

Yes I watch all the leagues matey boy. Lets go through the team then and see where you are mightily wrong.

2...Van Der Saar and Canizares not a big dif, i'll give you that one
2...Evra and Taiwo. Evra is one of the best left backs in the world, you can't say Taiwo is better, thats stupid
3...Vidic has developed into one of the best cent backs in the world. Richards has done well in the Prem, thats it! No big performances from him yet
4...Ferdinand and Mexes. Same reason as last one
5...Neville and Alves, I'll give you Alves
6...Nasri comes nowhere near Scholes im afraid
7...Giggs and Fernandes. Fernandes doesn't play the same pos as Giggs so thats stupid
8..Albelda over Hargreaves. Hargreaves is champions league winner twice and has the legs on him
9....Nani and Robben, i ll give you robben
10...Knowone is really better than Ronaldo bar Messi in my opinion so no
11...Rooney. Maybe berbs, not the others

So you have maybe three players that are better, just not good enough son. You are wrong!!
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Re: More important. Managers or Players
« Reply #15 on: Jun 04, 2008, 05:46: AM »
Evra isn't even first choice for France man. Abidal and Clichey are ahead of him. How you gonna say he is the best LB in the world. Tiawo is a beast everyone underrates him because he doesn't play for a big club.

Vidic wasn't top 5 CBs before this year. Give Richards a bit of time he would easily be able to replace him.

Mexes is the back bone of Roma he can equal Rio.

Scholes is finished.

Gigs is finished they are both going to be replaced anyway. no point.

Collocini is hot property Barca are after him he came through at AC Milan when he was younger played for Villereal and Boca. Hes only getting better.

As for Rooney you will never admit anything. I won't bother.

And you know if I was to replace the players with slightly bigger players example Ricardo Carvaliho or Ibarahimovic you would still ask questions.

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Re: More important. Managers or Players
« Reply #16 on: Jun 04, 2008, 06:07: AM »
Okay, lets look at Chelsea, they have decent players, but they had manager problems once Mourinho left, so in that case the manager is needed.

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Re: More important. Managers or Players
« Reply #17 on: Jun 04, 2008, 08:00: AM »
wait crap, is Evra not starting for framnce? That means I have to change him in my team for the fantasy pool.
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Re: More important. Managers or Players
« Reply #18 on: Jun 04, 2008, 09:04: AM »
Evra isn't even first choice for France man. Abidal and Clichey are ahead of him. How you gonna say he is the best LB in the world. Tiawo is a beast everyone underrates him because he doesn't play for a big club.

Vidic wasn't top 5 CBs before this year. Give Richards a bit of time he would easily be able to replace him.

Mexes is the back bone of Roma he can equal Rio.

Scholes is finished.

Gigs is finished they are both going to be replaced anyway. no point.

Collocini is hot property Barca are after him he came through at AC Milan when he was younger played for Villereal and Boca. Hes only getting better.

As for Rooney you will never admit anything. I won't bother.

And you know if I was to replace the players with slightly bigger players example Ricardo Carvaliho or Ibarahimovic you would still ask questions.

Evra doesn't start for France, he is better than Abidal though. I didn't say he was the best, I said he was one of the best.

Vidic is awesome though, Richards is not yet and probably never will be. Don't read what you see in the papers, he is never going to be world class. Slightly too small as a center back to fall into that bracket (don't scream Cannavaro at me, Richards doesn't read the game or have the leap and timing that he does) and as a right back he is not composed enough.

Mexes is good but not as good as Rio and never will be.

I dont care if Scholes is old. Ask any manager in the world who they would want in a game tomorrow, Scholes or Nasri? They would say Scholes without any question.

Collocini? Come on, he hasn't played well at the top level yet and your saying he would improve/match the player that plays for Man.U in his position.

Your arguments are so rubbish. Are you seriously saying you think that your eleven vs Man.U eleven is equal or better? Come on mate......
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Re: More important. Managers or Players
« Reply #19 on: Jun 04, 2008, 09:41: AM »
melbourne has some, lets say, unorthodox views about soccer, and theres no point in arguing with him over them.
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Re: More important. Managers or Players
« Reply #20 on: Jun 04, 2008, 12:11: PM »
To me,It's players,Because they are playing the game,No matter how much a manager may train them,In the end,They have to go out there and play.

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Re: More important. Managers or Players
« Reply #21 on: Jun 04, 2008, 01:30: PM »
I think a great manager like Mourinho won the CL with Porto. When you see average teams succeed usually its because of the manager. He has to be able to motivate his players and win games with tactics.

As for TFs challange

Van der Sar out - Canizares / Coupet in
Patrice Evra out - Taye Taiwo in
Nemanja Vidi? out - Micah Richards / Lucio
Firdinad out - Phillippe Mexes in
Neville out - Alves in
Paul Scholes out -  Nasri
Giggs out - Manuel Fernandes in
Owen Hargreaves out - Collocini / Albelda in
Nani out Guardado / Robben in
C. Ronaldo out - Franck Ribéry/ Quaresma in
Rooney  :lol: out - Benjani/ Pauleta / Berbatov/ Morientez / Kuranyi ect in

Its much too easy to replace players.

I can use football manager players too...
Van der Sar out - lloris in
Patrice Evra out - armand traore in
Nemanja Vidi? out - Fazio in
Firdinad out - barzagli in
Neville out - rafinha in
Paul Scholes out - (this is where i would put manuel fernandes)
Giggs out - Matias fernandez
Owen Hargreaves out - Alou diarra
Nani out --- Arshavin
C. Ronaldo out - jiminez
Rooney  :lol: out - Benjani/ Pauleta / Berbatov/ Morientez / Kuranyi ect in---agree w/ this one, rooney is shit.

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Re: More important. Managers or Players
« Reply #22 on: Jun 04, 2008, 01:31: PM »
and nani doesn't even start, so i don't know why he is in there...hes plop anyway

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Re: More important. Managers or Players
« Reply #23 on: Jun 04, 2008, 01:33: PM »
either way you cant just go and replace a starting eleven quickly....
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